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What"s the Temp?

What’s the Temp?

"What"s the Temp?" is a weekly podcast where two unlikely friends prove that authentic connection transcends all differences. Hosts Betina and Jen invite listeners into their “Tues-dee” weekly phone calls to discuss relationships, emotional sobriety, and spirituality across cultures and generations, demonstrating how accountability and transparency lead to personal transformation despite virtually opposite life experiences.

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61:01

Christmas Joy in the Middle of Hard

What"s the Temp? ·

2025/12/16

In this uplifting holiday episode, Betina and Jen make a bold declaration: they're choosing celebration over survival this Christmas season, regardless of what hardships they're carrying. Through honest conversations about their far-from-perfect lives, they explore why creating beauty and gathering with intention are essential, especially when times are tough. They challenge the cultural narrative that honors past pain more than present possibility, refusing to let trauma steal the magic of the

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62:04

The Love Letter We Never Wrote (to Ourselves)

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2025/12/09

We're quick to offer grace to everyone else, but when it comes to ourselves? That's where we quickly pump the brakes. In this Season of Love episode, we look inwardly and ask: what would it look like to treat ourselves with the same compassion we extend to others? Jen shares a tender letter she wrote to herself in the early days of sobriety, written from the woman she ultimately became. Betina opens up about wrestling with the concept of "deserving" rest when her body is screaming for it, revealing

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64:23

Mirror Work

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2025/12/02

In this refreshingly open and honest episode, Betina and Jen tackle self-love through the lens of body acceptance, sharing stories that range from funny to heartbreaking. Betina recounts her culture-shock moment at a Midwest "club" where her Thanksgiving dinner outfit left her overdressed. Jen celebrates Betina's unshakable confidence regardless of pant size, contrasting it with communities where self-assurance feels like a foreign language. Through vulnerable admissions about their own harsh

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61:52

Eyes Wide Open

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2025/11/25

In this grounding episode, Betina and Jen explore the spiritual practice of accepting life exactly as God has allowed it (messy parts and all) while cultivating genuine gratitude for what's already present. Jen shares about her friend's "they gotta know" philosophy of loving honesty, which leads to Betina's hilarious story about a gym enthusiast whose visible reality didn't match his verbal narrative, illustrating the importance of seeing ourselves and our circumstances clearly. Through vulnerable

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66:24

Expert, Free Advice

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2025/11/18

In this episode, Jen shares relationship guidance from a friend that was so unconventional, everyone she tells says they would have never suggested it, yet it worked. Betina gets vulnerable about the physical reactions her body undergoes when someone tries to correct her, revealing how the ego can literally manifest as resistance in your nervous system. We explore why we dismiss wisdom based on who's delivering it, and how to stay open when advice cuts against what we think we know. If you've ever

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64:08

The College Conspiracy

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2025/11/11

Backed up by a killer soundtrack, Betina and Jen explore whether the pressure to send every kid to college is actually setting them up for real success. Jen gets brutally honest about choosing her college based on criteria that guidance counselors would absolutely not recommend. Betina shares her coveted Oxtail Birria taco recipe alongside a surprise reveal of her American Idol audition. To degree or not to degree, that is the question!00:00 Intros01:47 Temp Check: What’s your “My kid HAS to go to

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62:42

The Friendship Minefield

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2025/11/04

Can men and women really be just friends, or is that naive optimism? In this episode, we tackle one of the most debated relationship questions head-on. Betina shares surprisingly candid stories from her past where physical connections actually opened doors to genuine platonic friendships, though she wrestles with how to tell those stories now that her life looks completely different. Jen brings insights from conversations with multiple friends, including her life partner, that challenge common

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51:21

When Love Isn't Enough Pt. 2

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2025/10/28

Sometimes, the hardest wisdom to accept is that caring deeply about someone doesn't automatically mean the relationship can work. In this continuation of our conversation about love's limitations, we explore the gut-wrenching question: how do you know when to keep fighting for a relationship versus when to walk away? We dig into the complexity of adult relationships where there's no villain nor a clear wrong answer, just two people who may not be compatible despite having genuine affection for one

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79:16

When Love Isn't Enough Pt. 1

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2025/10/21

In the premiere of Season 3, hosts Jen and Betina dive deep into love and show how different the real thing is from what you see in the movies.The episode opens with an introduction to the central theme of Season 3, love and its transformative power in our lives. Their honest temperature check reveals where they each stand on love's redemptive potential.The heart of this episode traces their relationship arcs from youth to today. Betina shares her journey of redirecting a lifetime of loving others

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60:33

The Helper's High

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2025/10/14

Do you leap into fix-it mode the moment someone mentions a struggle? In this episode, Betina wrestles with feedback from her daughter and others who just want to vent, not get a five-point action plan. As a business consultant who gets paid to solve problems and is regularly sought out for wisdom, the line between helpful and overbearing gets blurry fast. Jen introduces the concept of radical acceptance and shares practical ways to support friends without becoming their unpaid therapist or worse,

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75:52

Perfection Prison Break

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2025/10/07

What if the key to moving forward isn't fixing everything that's broken, but celebrating what's actually working? In this episode, Jen decides to steal a page from Betina's playbook by adopting her end-of-summer reflection ritual. Instead of waiting for New Year's resolutions, we're taking stock now by looking back at what we accomplished (and didn't) in 2025, and charting a course for 2026 that doesn't require us to be flawless. We wrestle with our tendency to dismiss small wins while obsessing

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63:41

Permission Problem

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2025/09/30

Ever notice how some people charge forward while others wait for a green light that never seems to come? In this episode, we explore the delicate balance between seeking wisdom and seeking approval. Jen opens up about her lifelong struggle with feeling like she needs permission just to exist, while Betina shares how she's learned to confidently seek direction from God alone. We dive into the classic "forgiveness vs. permission" conversation and unpack the real question: are you waiting for someone

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60:34

Productivity Rebellion

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2025/09/23

What if the most productive thing you could do this week was absolutely nothing? In this episode, Betina and Jen explore the revolutionary act of strategic laziness and why our culture's obsession with constant productivity might be sabotaging our best ideas.Together, they challenge the guilt we feel around boredom and examine why some of our greatest breakthroughs happen when we're not trying to break through anything at all.From reclaiming the lost art of genuine rest to understanding when

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60:04

Legacy Living

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2025/09/16

In this episode, Betina and Jen explore how letting go of control can actually create more meaningful impact than forcing outcomes. Jen shares her quirky fixation on an a mysterious buried object in her yard, using it as a metaphor for the exhausting pursuit of things beyond our influence, while Betina reflects on shifting from seeking partnership-dependent dreams to embracing solo home ownership for the first time. Through their personal stories of releasing attachment to specific outcomes, they

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63:20

Technology Tensions

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2025/09/09

In this thoughtful exploration, Betina and Jen navigate the complex relationship between spiritual practice and digital tools, examining how technology can serve rather than replace meaningful human connection. Betina opens up about her fascinating perspective on God as Infinite Intelligence and how this shapes her approach to AI, creating a nuanced conversation about divine wisdom versus artificial intelligence. Meanwhile, Jen shares her intentional commitment to prioritizing face-to-face

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78:51

The Joy Practice

What"s the Temp? ·

2025/09/02

In this heartfelt episode, Betina and Jen celebrate their podcast launch (the episode was recorded the day they launched their first episode) and honor Uncle Bob's memory before diving into how they've sustained each other through life's challenges. Through vulnerable storytelling, they reveal how their friendship has served as a lighthouse during difficult seasons, offering hope when darkness felt overwhelming. The conversation moves beyond surface-level positivity to examine joy as a conscious

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68:50

The Comparison Trap

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2025/08/26

In this candid conversation, Betina and Jen dive deep into the complex relationship between comparison, social media, and personal growth. They explore how the double-edged sword of comparison can either fuel our ambitions or completely derail our progress, sharing personal stories of both outcomes.A major focus of the conversation centers on transforming comparison from a destructive force into a constructive tool, giving practical strategies for using others' success as motivation rather than

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53:21

Good and Bad Shame

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2025/08/19

Betina and Jen talk about their relationships with shame, or in Jen’s case, the lack thereof. They explore how to treat shame as an early warning system, how to look it in the face and get the lessons it's here to teach us before it turns toxic.Time stamps:00:00 Intros01:11 Moral Compass Temp Check09:37 Just do the next right thing11:59 Jen’s miscarriage update14:39 Backstory: Times when healthy shame guided you to better choices vs when toxic shame paralyzed you32:12 LifeFocus: Reclaiming shame as

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68:32

Community Check-In

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2025/08/12

A candid conversation about the communities that shape us and the ones we're called to build. Jen and Betina examine the reciprocal nature of authentic community: how to pour into others while also creating space to receive support when you need it most. From personal stories to practical steps, they explore expanding your circle of influence and accountability beyond your closest relationships.Time stamps:00:00 Intros00:38 Social Impact Temp Check03:10 Jen shares a very personal event38:19

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62:07

The Stuff We Keep

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2025/08/05

In this episode, Betina and Jen explore the deeper psychology behind our relationships with material possessions. They examine how moving beyond pure materialism doesn't mean rejecting all things, but rather developing intentional connections with what we own. The conversation weaves through practical fashion philosophy (including the art of mixing high and low-end pieces) while maintaining minimalist principles that prioritize quality over quantity.The hosts share their preference for timeless

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