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Wrestlenomics

Wrestlenomics covers the business of pro wrestling. Pollock & Thurston is a weekly podcast hosted by John Pollock of POST Wrestling and Wrestlenomics’ Brandon Thurston. They are often joined by a relevant guest.

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94:44

Endeavor’s Courtship of WWE | Biggest Stories of 2025...

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2025/12/31

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover the TKO merger process with new documents unsealed and correspondence among key executives revealed. Plus, a look back at the biggest news stories of 2025 and ones to watch in the coming year. VIDEO VERSION: https://youtube.com/live/EZCOw8EBD1sMusic courtesy: “Panic Beat” by Ben TramerPOST WrestlingSubscribe: https://postwrestling.com/subscribePatreon: http://postwrestlingcafe.comForum: https://forum.postwrestling.comDiscord:

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80:45

WWE Ring Boy Lawsuit Continues: Judge Says Case Will...

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2025/12/17

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover the latest developments in the WWE Ring Boy lawsuit, as a judge rules that most of the plaintiffs’ claims will proceed to discovery.They also discuss John Cena’s final match and the business impact it generated, along with Mick Foley publicly cutting ties with WWE over Donald Trump.Topics this week include:Warner Bros. Discovery’s board approving Netflix’s bid and rejecting ParamountJudge allows the WWE Ring Boy lawsuit to move forward on most claimsJohn

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104:26

The Legacy of John Cena | Netflix vs Paramount |...

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2025/12/10

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston look at the career of John Cena as the longest tenured main eventer in WWE’s history and the fight between Netflix & Paramount.Topics this week include:The legacy of John Cena and his run on top in WWEThe showdown between Netflix and Paramount for control of WBDLawsuit over Cena’s theme song Cena’s latest comments on Vince McMahonMark Shapiro speaks at the UBS conference Judge issues order against Dr. Carlon Colker Mark Hunt’s lawsuit George Barrios is writing a

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68:43

TNA’s deal with AMC | The Politics Behind Tanahashi...

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2025/12/03

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston welcome Trish Speirs to discuss her excellent feature on the booking of Hiroshi Tanahashi’s retirement match and TNA’s new media rights deal with AMC. Topics this week include:TNA inks multi-year deal with AMCThe booking of Hiroshi Tanahashi’s retirement matchWWE Raw falls outside the global top ten on NetflixMore on the WWE shareholder lawsuit and latest depositionsAn update on the Conor McGregor lawsuit AEW Dynamite ratings VIDEO VERSION:

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78:19

Big Data + Panel Wreaks Havoc on WWE & AEW | Pollock...

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2025/11/26

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston unpack the effect Big Data + Panel is having on the professional wrestling industry, and a blistering response from CW on the new methodology. Topics this week include:Big Data + Panel reporting by Brandon Thurston, including CW’s response Comparisons using the old and new methods for WWE & AEW Significant updates in the WWE shareholder lawsuit Vince McMahon’s phone given back by the feds AJ Lee and Stephanie McMahon discuss equal Tony Khan on the length of

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75:01

John Cena at MSG | Tony Khan speaks with Ariel...

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2025/11/19

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston react to Tony Khan’s sit-down chat with Ariel Helwani, TKO’s big week at Madison Square Garden, a “Stunner” of a group chat, and the WON Hall of Fame class.Topics this week include:Tony Khan returns to the Ariel Helwani ShowTKO runs UFC 322 & John Cena’s Final Raw at MSGESPN and YouTube reach an agreementLatest in the ongoing shareholder lawsuit against WWETNA has a terrible week of PRWrestle Kingdom 20 sells out WON Hall of Fame inductees VIDEO VERSION:

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74:09

WWE Teams with MLSE in Toronto | TKO Q3 Earnings &...

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2025/11/12

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover WWE’s announcement with Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment, TKO’s Q3 earnings report, and how TNA Bound for Glory performed.Topics this week include:WWE and MLSE announce long-term partnershipTKO’s Q3 Earnings Results Mark Shapiro comments on Fox’s performance with UFCTNA Bound for Glory’s gate and tickets sold Janel Grant accuses Dr. Carlon Colker of accessing her file WWE and Wesley Eisold reach a settlementTop performers on WWE ShopAEW and NWA are in

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82:15

Hall of Fame Ballots Revealed | TKO Q3 Preview |...

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2025/11/05

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston share their Observer Hall of Fame ballots and debate who should be inducted this year. Plus: TKO prepares for its third-quarter earnings, analysis of AEW’s past quarter, Wrestle Kingdom 20 ticket update & a betting scandal rocks the UFC. Topics this week include:TKO to report Q3 earningsAEW’s past quarter performance Market-to-market comparisons for WWE & AEWUpdated attendance figure for Wrestle Kingdom 20Japanese attendance trends Paul Levesque on the

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83:07

WWE Ticket Prices Double | No-Compete Clauses |...

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2025/10/22

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss WWE’s enforcement of no-compete clauses involving Andrade and Samantha Irvin, and whether these clauses could withstand legal scrutiny.Combat sports regulatory lawyer Erik Magraken joins them to break down the legality of these contracts and the push by TKO to pass the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act. Topics this week include:WWE enforces a no-compete clause for AndradeSamantha Irvin reveals a two-year non-competeWWE ticket prices have doubled since

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71:31

NXT vs. AEW Super Tuesday Results | Pollock & Thurston

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2025/10/15

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston look at last week’s “Super Tuesday” results, how TNA fared at Bound for Glory, and how best to assess a company’s success in this new era. Topics this week include:The changing metrics to assess pro wrestling companiesTNA reports 7,794 attendance for Bound for GloryAdvance for AEW WrestleDream in St. Louis Location for WWE Elimination ChamberRidge Holland released while injuredWWE cuts & ID deals not renewedMark Shapiro to be deposedLawsuit reaches a

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59:18

AEW’s Public Funding & Attendance in Texas |...

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2025/10/08

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss the public funding and attendance figures from AEW All In Texas and react to SmackDown’s all-time low viewership.Thurston discusses his reporting on AEW All In Texas and the records he has received from the Government concerning the July 11 event at Globe Life Field. SmackDown falls to an all-time viewership figure under the new Big Data + Panel model, and we explain why this is concerning. Topics this week include:Government records reveal AEW All In Texas

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34:26

Nielsen’s Big Data Shake-Up: WWE & AEW Viewership...

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2025/10/06

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston chat with Douglas Pucci of Programming Insider about Nielsen’s new method of tracking viewership and the negative impact it has shown for professional wrestling programs. Pucci explains how the new method differs from the previous model, its impact on other genres of programming, and why pro wrestling has seen significant decreases. Then, Pollock & Thurston chat about why this is a big story, WBD responds to Thurston’s inquiry, and whether this could affect TNA

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81:59

AEW Dynamite Turns Six, Paramount inks Zuffa Boxing |...

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2025/10/01

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover AEW Dynamite’s sixth anniversary, Zuffa Boxing’s deal with Paramount, and Dana White appears on 60 Minutes.Plus, Josh Nason from the Wrestling Observer returns to the show. Topics this week include:AEW Dynamite’s sixth anniversary tonight WWE partners with DC Events for John Cena’s retirement matchZuffa Boxing signs deal with Paramount Dana White profiled on CBS’ 60 MinutesStephanie McMahon speaks at the White House John Laurinaits deposed in shareholder

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60:29

WWE Wrestlepalooza vs. AEW All Out: Winners and...

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2025/09/24

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down the head-to-head showdown between WWE and AEW, with both companies running their biggest shows of the month.Topics this week include:WWE’s debut on the ESPN app with Wrestlepalooza and fan receptionAEW All Out streaming on HBO MaxTony Khan on streaming numbers and running afternoon eventsKey streaming & TV viewership data from the past weekWrestleMania 42 ticket pricing updatesAEW Dynamite’s latest demographic breakdownWho will cover the costs of the

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96:07

WWE Moves WrestleMania to Saudi Arabia | Pollock &...

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2025/09/17

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston cover a massive week of news in wrestling, MMA, and sports media. The main story is WWE announcing that WrestleMania will be held in Saudi Arabia, with U.K. journalist Robert Jackman joining the show to break down the logistics and impact of the move.We also dive into:Independent promoters reacting to WWE’s Saudi Arabia strategyESPN’s media call ahead of WrestlepaloozaMark Shapiro’s comments at the Goldman Sachs ConferenceTKO announcing $1 billion in share

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82:08

AJ Lee Spikes Audience, Bryan Danielson on...

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2025/09/10

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down AJ Lee’s return to WWE and SmackDown surging to the #1 show on Friday, Bryan Danielson speaking on WWE’s counterprogramming strategy, and Bubba the Love Sponge’s response to the Nick Bollea lawsuit.Also covered on the show:John Cena’s upcoming retirement match in Washington, D.C.Paul Levesque addresses WWE’s contributions to Saudi ArabiaBubba the Love screens the Hogan sex tape documentaryZuffa Boxing promotes Canelo vs. Crawford in Las VegasWWE Worlds

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77:01

WWE Clash in Paris | AEW All Out Moves Start Time |...

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2025/09/03

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down WWE Clash in Paris, including the record-setting gate at La Défense Arena, WWE’s international business growth, and the company’s decision to run the venue on back-to-back nights.Plus, we cover the biggest stories across wrestling this week:AEW moves All Out to afternoon, PPVs available on HBO Max ROH Death Before Dishonor suffers technical issuesWWE announces its “Road to Royal Rumble” European tour dates for January 2026.Bushiroad financial results for

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91:42

AEW Forbidden Door, WWE ESPN Move | Pollock & Thurston

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2025/08/27

Neal Flanagan, filling in for John Pollock, and Brandon Thurston discuss AEW’s Forbidden Door event and press conference, WWE PLE starting on ESPN DTC streaming earlier than originally announced, plus recent legal developments.Also:WWE’s PLEs moving to ESPN DTC and reworked NBCU dealNotes from the Forbidden Door post-show press conferenceDr. Carlon Colker briefly discloses Janel Grant’s medical records before filings were sealedKevin Foote v. AEW case in the 11th Circuit Court of AppealsVince

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72:46

WWE’s Growing Dominance: Aggressive Tactics Against...

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2025/08/20

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston discuss WWE’s increasingly aggressive strategies to compete with AEW, and whether these practices raise antitrust concerns. They break down what this means for AEW’s future and how the company can realistically respond.Also on the show:WWE’s September PLE possibly airing on ESPNTNA is open to a move to directly oppose AEWTriplemanía XXXIII from Mexico CityWrestleMania 41 attendance notes from the Las Vegas Stadium AuthorityG1 Climax attendance figures across

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70:11

UFC’s $7.7B Paramount Deal | WWE PLE vs AEW All Out |...

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2025/08/13

John Pollock and Brandon Thurston break down the UFC’s historic $7.7 billion deal with Paramount, which will end the company’s pay-per-view business. We discuss what this means for UFC fans, the promotion’s future, and the broader combat sports industry.We also cover WWE running a Premium Live Event in Indianapolis set to go head-to-head with AEW All Out in September, plus:Judge grants Janel Grant access to medical recordsTKO close to a deal for Zuffa BoxingESPN shows interest in the WWE

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