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State of the Second

Gun Owners of America

"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry. Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firearms industry, plus the battles they face along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to break into the

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All Episodes

41:50

Derya’s Blueprint for Growth (ft. Derya USA)

State of the Second ·

2025/12/10

This week, John and Kailey sit down with Dustin from Derya Arms to break down how the brand went from startup to U.S. manufacturing in under a year. Dustin shares his journey into the gun industry, why the DY9 has become one of the most underrated value pistols, and how Derya shifted 95% of DY9 production to Jacksonville, Florida while keeping prices low through efficiency and vertical integration.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest

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47:25

This Is Exactly Why Governments Fear an Armed People...

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2025/12/03

This week on State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Yehuda Remer, an Orthodox Jew, Second Amendment Advocate, and author of "Safety On: An introduction to the world of firearms for children.”We cover real talk on gun culture, self-defense, and the mindset most people avoid. No ego, no BS, just the truth about being prepared.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest gear!Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Langdon

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51:09

Can You Trust Paid Gun Reviews? (ft. Tactical Advisor)

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2025/11/26

This week on State of the Second, we sit down with Tactical Advisor, a SWAT sniper, deputy sheriff, and creator, to talk about balancing law enforcement, faith, and the 2A content grind.We cover honest reviews, YouTube censorship, influencer pay, and how to stay real in the firearms industry.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest gear!Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Langdon Tactical - Use code “LTTGOA” for $100 off any

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47:51

How 3D Printing is Revolutionizing Firearm Design...

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2025/11/20

This week, John and Kailey sit down with Rich Angstadt, founder of Angstadt Arms, to talk firearm innovation. From roller-delayed PCCs and 3D-printed suppressors to the future of the NFA. Discover how tradition meets technology and why suppressors may soon be the new normal.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest gear!Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Langdon Tactical - Use code “LTTGOA” for $100 off any order over $1,000

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38:38

Why Goat Guns Are More Than Just Mini Models (ft....

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2025/11/12

This week, John and Kailey sit down with Anthony from Goat Guns to talk about how miniature firearms became a massive hit in the 2A world. From SIG collaborations to viral builds, Goat Guns are proving that even small-scale creations can make a big impact on gun culture.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest gear!Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Langdon Tactical - Use code “LTTGOA” for $100 off any order over $1,000 on

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51:31

The Privacy Starter Pack (That Actually Works) (ft....

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2025/11/06

This week, John and Kailey sit down with Sean Patrick Terrio, tech executive and co-founder ofMark37.com, to expose the truth about digital privacy, surveillance, and how Big Tech profits from your data. From iPhones that listen to every word to cars that track your every move, this is the reality they don’t want you to hear.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest gear!Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this season!Langdon Tactical -

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01:00:24

The $20 Prep Everyone Overlooks (ft. Magic Prepper)

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2025/10/29

This week on State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Magic Prepper, a content creator who turned a life-changing moment into a mission of self-reliance.From surviving an armed attack to building a preparedness lifestyle, he shares the lessons he’s learned about staying ready, protecting family, and empowering others to do the same.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest gear!Special thanks to our sponsor for supporting this

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58:33

The Story Behind America’s Most Patriotic Bourbon...

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2025/10/22

This week, John and Kailey sit down with Tim, founder of 2A Bourbon, a patriotic bourbon brand built to defend the Second Amendment and support veteran causes. Tim shares the powerful story behind the company’s founding, how bourbon and gun culture came together to fund real charitable impact, and why he donates every dollar of profit to organizations protecting freedom and supporting military families.We talk bourbon, advocacy, community, and how everyday purchasing decisions can help preserve our

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53:53

What Really Kills Reliability: Friction, Springs, and...

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2025/10/15

This week, Kailey and John sit down with Nathan Mitchell, founder of Mitchell Defense, to dive into what makes a truly reliable AR. From his background in the military and oil field engineering to redefining “Mil-Spec,” Nathan shares how precision, durability, and smart design create rifles that perform when it counts.They also discuss everything from AR operating systems and friction reduction to the current state of the firearms industry, NFA changes, and why training matters more than

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01:20:03

What Nobody Tells You About Micro Compacts (ft. CANIK)

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2025/10/01

This week, John and Kailey sit down with Adam Ruonala, VP of Business Development and Marketing of CANIK/Century Arms. They dive into the evolution of everyday carry pistols, the GOA x CANiK MC9 collaboration, and why the PRIME is packed with race-gun features. Adam also shares insights on the billboard fight in Oakland, what tariffs mean for gun owners, and the future of surplus firearms.Whether you’re new to firearms or a lifelong 2A supporter, this episode gives you insider access to the

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36:52

Building the Citizen Defense Industry the Government...

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2025/09/25

In this episode of State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Isaac Botkin of T.REX Arms to discuss freedom, firearms, and the future of innovation in the gun industry.Isaac shares the story of how T.REX Arms grew from a small business into one of the most recognized names in the 2A space. From holsters as the “business card of freedom” to grassroots advocacy in Tennessee, and building the Citizen Defense Industry, he explains why mission always comes before

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18:58

This Organization Is Doing What the Government Won’t...

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2025/09/10

In this episode of State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Joel Pellici, co-founder of SOWW (Special Operations Wounded Warriors), a nonprofit transforming the lives of veterans through nature, brotherhood, and purpose. From wild pig hunts to life-changing service dogs, Joel shares unforgettable stories of resilience, healing, and the unseen battle many heroes still face.-----------------------Thanks to AAC Ammo & Palmetto State Armory for sponsoring our guest gear!Special thanks to

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55:37

What If Ammo Worked Like Bitcoin? (ft. Bullet Vault)

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2025/09/03

In this episode of State of the Second, we sit down with Clay from Bullet Vault. He shares insights into his personal firearm preferences, his experience in the gun industry, and how his companies are responding to changes in the market.Throughout the conversation, Clay opens up about the cultural and political challenges facing the firearms industry, the power of grassroots influence, and the untapped potential of the next generation of pro-freedom advocates. He also shares a bold vision of what it

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40:30

Why Training Is an Investment in Your Life (ft....

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2025/08/27

In this episode,Kailey and John sit down with Trevon Barber from Right to Bear to talk all things training, competition, and responsible gun ownership. Trevon shares his journey from wrestling to firearms competition, how he built a career teaching others, and why proper education is just as important as owning a firearm.Trevon also discusses the top drills every shooter should practice and the best way to get started in competition shooting. They also discuss the common mistakes new gun owners

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41:32

Gun Content Creator Exposes ATF Overreach (ft. Desk Pop)

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2025/08/20

In this episode of State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Desk Pop for an unfiltered conversation about gun culture, navigating restrictive states, and why the firearms community is seeing a cultural shift toward fun, welcoming, and engaging content.From working behind the gun counter to launching a thriving YouTube channel, to being directly contacted by the ATF and pushed to get an FFL just to keep creating. He shares the challenges of living and advocating for 2A rights in Washington,

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32:31

The Military Chose THIS Scope (ft. Vortex Optics)

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2025/08/13

Join John and Kailey this week for a jam-packed episode as we sit down with Mark from Vortex Optics to talk gear, hunting, and the Second Amendment. From his favorite all-around rifle scope to wild warranty stories, including optics run over by trucks and dropped off cliffs—Mark shares insider knowledge and real-world tips for choosing the right optic for your needs. We dive into why Vortex’s VIP Warranty is truly bulletproof, how the next generation can get into hunting, and the behind-the-scenes

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54:56

Why the World Is Watching American Gun Culture (ft....

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2025/08/06

Join us this week as John and Kailey sit down with Alyssa (aka @TheGunnyGal) and her husband Tanner for a conversation that blends guns, cars, CrossFit, and content creation into one unstoppable lifestyle.In this episode, Alyssa shares her journey from being intimidated by firearms to becoming a confident 2A educator on YouTube. She and Tanner discuss how they transitioned from short-form to long-form content, and how their channel is helping new gun owners feel informed and empowered. They dive

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40:08

Why Home Ranges Are the Future (ft. TCRT)

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2025/07/30

This week on State of the Second, Kailey and John sit down with Curt from TCRT Targets to talk about the future of range training, self-healing rubber targets, and why fun, flexible home setups are changing the game.Kurt shares his journey from firearms marketing to launching one of the most durable target lines on the market, explains why GOA’s long-term strategy matters, and dives into how we win the 2A fight by changing culture - not just laws.Register for GOALS 2025, August 9th &

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49:25

What It Takes to Become a Gunsmith in 2025 (ft. SDI)

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2025/07/16

Join us for a deep-dive conversation with Jarred from Sonoran Desert Institute (SDI) on the State of the Second podcast! From the future of gunsmithing to the importance of hands-on training, Jarred shares what it takes to succeed in the firearms industry today. We talk shop about AR platforms, and why trade education is more vital than ever.Whether you're curious about SDI, want to get into gunsmithing, or just love hearing real talk about firearms and freedom-this episode has something for

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47:22

But is it Actually as Good as Live Fire Training?...

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2025/07/09

In this episode of State of the Second, John and Kailey sit down with Grant from Mantis, the innovative minds behind some of the most advanced dry fire and training tools in the firearm world.From the Blackbeard AR trigger reset system to the upcoming Titan X training pistol and augmented reality environments, Mantis is pushing the boundaries of how we train-and who can access that training.Register for GOALS 2025, August 9th & 10th: https://events.goa.org/goals/-----------------------Thanks to

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