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PODCAST

The Out of the Cave Podcast

Lisa Schlosberg

The Out of the Cave Podcast is a resource hosted by Lisa Schlosberg, LMSW, for all who struggle with emotional eating, stress eating, under-eating, overeating, mindless eating, and have a complicated relationship to food, eating, and body image.

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All Episodes

01:27:36

Solo Series Chapter 8: You’re Not Broken—You’re...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2026/02/02

In this solo episode, Lisa takes a step back and asks a different question about “disorders”—especially eating disorders—not as something broken or pathological, but as ways the nervous system learned to survive. Lisa's discussion centers on healing through safety, trust, and behavior-first change—embodying new patterns until the nervous system habituates—through tender and fierce self-compassion, balanced integration, and very small, sustainable steps. Along the way, Lisa offers practical

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01:30:48

Solo Series Chapter 7: When Dieting/Weight Loss...

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2026/01/26

In this episode, Lisa explores how addiction and compulsion extend far beyond substances to include any behavior that offers short-term relief at the cost of long-term freedom. Drawing on Gabor Maté’s framework and her own lived experience, she unpacks how dieting, restriction, productivity, and people-pleasing can quietly become addictive coping strategies that create an illusion of safety and control. Lisa introduces the concept of “dieting addiction” and addiction transfer, explaining how food

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01:20:04

Solo Series Chapter 6: Food, Eating, and the...

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2026/01/19

In this episode of her solo series, Lisa examines addiction dynamics in food and eating, integrating neurobiology, trauma, and behavioral psychology with personal narrative. She distinguishes substance vs. behavior addictions and reframes the “food addiction” debate as a semantic distraction, emphasizing why behaviors become compulsive. The discussion links binge eating and self-harm through positive and negative reinforcement, underscores capitalist food industry influence, and advocates grief,

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01:12:09

Solo Series Part 5: Exercising Your Power and...

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2026/01/12

In Chapter 5 of this ongoing series, Lisa slows things down to focus on the groundwork that must come before true integration and lasting change. She explores radical acceptance, surrender, grief, and self-compassion as essential prerequisites for sustainable healing and intentional weight loss. She unpacks why integration and even fear of self-compassion demand a foundational understanding of our internal systems, challenges narratives of powerlessness around food and the body, and offers a more

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01:06:28

Solo Series Part 4: Co-Creating, Surrender, and The...

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2026/01/05

In this solo episode, Lisa explores the spiritual and psychological practice of “following the call”—learning to live, decide, and heal without needing full certainty. She unpacks how fear-driven control blocks co-creation with life, the body, and spirit, and why true change begins with radical acceptance and self-compassion rather than force. Through tender and fierce self-compassion, embodied emotional processing, and humility about what we can and cannot control, Lisa shows how guidance reveals

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01:15:35

Solo Series Part 3: How to Embody Radical Acceptance...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/12/29

In this solo episode, Lisa examines radical acceptance as the foundation for change: acceptance is not approval, agreement, or resignation, but the willingness to be fully with “what is” without fighting reality. Drawing on Danielle LaPorte’s quote and the paradoxical theory of change—transformation begins by fully being where you are—Lisa emphasizes that acceptance reduces suffering and grounds orderly behavioral change. Integrating tender and fierce self-compassion, she outlines physiological

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01:32:23

Solo Series Part 2: Do No Harm, Take No Shit (Fierce...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/12/22

In this episode, Lisa offers a deep dive into intuitive living and the practice of self-compassion. Beginning with intuitive living as an everyday spiritual practice, Lisa explores how learning to recognize and trust intuitive “hits” naturally extends into intuitive eating as a form of soul-level guidance, not just hunger management. At the heart of this practice is the balance of tender and fierce self-compassion. By distinguishing healthy guilt from paralyzing shame, Lisa shows how we can accept

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01:26:05

Solo Series Part 1: Reparenting with Tender...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/12/15

In this series opener, Lisa shares a pivotal shift in her work and identity—from offering high-level insights to teaching the deeper foundations behind why her approach creates lasting change. Drawing from her doctoral studies and lived experience, Lisa introduces this new series that explores self-compassion (both tender and fierce), discipline through doing less, intentional weight loss, intuitive living, and spiritual intelligence. Lisa weaves her personal journey from depression and hopelessness

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00:44:54

Embracing Our Spiritual Journey: Insights on Morning...

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2025/12/08

In this second series episode, Lisa continues to discuss her personal transformation, attributing her positive state to a consistent spiritual practice, including meditation and mindful exercise. She explores the importance of connecting with one's "higher self" to overcome social pressures and make authentic life choices. She addresses listeners who feel they lack time for self-care due to demanding schedules, urging them to audit their time and start with small, consistent steps

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01:07:16

Embracing Our Spiritual Journey: Insights on Morning...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/11/24

In the first episode of this series, Lisa shares her journey from skepticism to a deep spiritual awakening that transformed every part of her life. Rooted in childhood trauma and years of using food for comfort, Lisa’s story unfolds into one of healing, discipline, and self-trust; culminating in a five-hour morning ritual fueled not by obligation, but genuine inspiration. She bridges science and spirituality to explore what it means to be “a spiritual being made of energy,” weaving in lessons from

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01:25:24

Finding Freedom Beyond Food and Control with Offie

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/11/10

In this episode, Lisa sits down with Offie, an alum of the Out of the Cave (OOTC) group coaching program, to explore her powerful, trauma-informed journey of healing. As the conversation unfolds, Lisa and Offie reflect on her adolescence marked by shame, peer pressure, and disconnection — and how sobriety in her twenties transformed coping into control. Through the challenges of marriage, secrecy, and self-judgment, Offie’s path eventually led her to the Out of the Cave podcast — and then into the

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01:14:34

A Soul with a Body: Reframing Faith, Food, and...

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2025/10/27

In this episode, Lisa and group coaching alum, Diane, explore her journey from religiously shaped body image and emotional eating to trauma-informed healing. They discuss the cycles of restriction and shame, leaving a rigid church, identity reframing, somatic practices, mindful eating, acceptance, and setting boundaries. Through the coaching program, Diane learned reconnection, safety, empowerment over control, and differentiating physical vs. emotional hunger, leading to sustainable behavior

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01:20:07

The Work Works: Trusting the Process Over Time with...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/10/13

This episode features a conversation between Lisa and Jenny, a former OOTC client, about her long-term journey of healing her relationship with food and her body. Together, Lisa and Jenny cover the integration of mind-body practices, shifting from outcome-based goals to behavior-focused intentions, and the importance of self-compassion. They explore finding a balanced, individual approach to health and fitness, moving beyond the extremes of diet and anti-diet cultures, and building self-trust

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01:16:37

Lisa’s Life Out of the Cave with Theresa - Part II

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/09/29

In this follow-up episode, Lisa returns to further discuss what was left unsaid — the complicated truths about losing weight and intentional weight loss. Together with Theresa, Lisa explores the messy middle between diet culture’s false promises and anti-diet absolutes. Lisa and Theresa confront how weight loss can bring both relief and complications, revealing a more holistic path toward healing, nuance, and self-trust.Topics Include:The Messy MiddleSocial Stigma and SafetyIntentional Weight Loss

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01:00:58

Lisa’s Life Out of the Cave with Theresa - Part I

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/09/15

In this episode, Lisa is interviewed by Out of the Cave (OOTC) community member, Theresa. Lisa discusses her professional and academic work, including her doctorate in social work and upcoming programs. The core of the conversation focuses on healing one's relationship with food through self-reparenting, applying the Division of Responsibility framework, and the evolution of eating disorder treatment. Lisa also shares insights from her trauma-informed clinical program and her vision for the OOTC

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01:19:31

Intentional Eating and Mindful Nutrition with Jenn...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/09/01

In this episode, Lisa and guest expert Jenn Trepeck break down some of the most common myths and challenges around food and health. Together they dive into practical ways to make intentional eating feel less overwhelming, from writing meals down to using alarms as training wheels for new habits. Jenn also clarifies the role of carbohydrates, highlighting the importance of fiber-rich fruits and vegetables and how to balance starches for stable blood sugar.Topics Include:Intentional EatingIntermittent

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01:10:54

Sugar, Shame, and Self-Love with Ann

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/08/18

In this episode, Lisa sits down with Ann, a 71-year-old artist, dancer, and healer, who opens up about her lifelong journey with food, body image, and emotional healing. Ann takes us through the ups and downs of living in a body that often felt like both a battleground and a refuge. Through movement, dance, and the support of the OOTC community, she has found profound transformation—especially through her time in the Out of the Cave program.Topics Include:Food and Family DynamicsAdolescence and Body

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01:19:09

Intuitive and Emotional Eating in a Real Food...

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/08/04

In this podcast, Lisa meets with Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner and Certified Health Education Specialist (CHES), Manya Ronay. Together they discuss a comprehensive approach to nutrition that integrates balanced dietary practices with emotional well-being. They address emotional eating, stress management, and the use of Internal Family Systems to balance dietary choices.Topics Include:Intuitive EatingFood Industry IFS FrameworkEmotional EatingIntentional Weight Loss Strategies[:35]

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01:09:47

The Unshaming Way with David Bedrick

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/07/21

In this podcast, Lisa explores trauma-informed, holistic approaches to food, eating, and body image, focusing on the psychology of shame, internalized sexism, and somatic experiences in therapy with David Bedrick. Together they discuss the importance of compassionate inquiry, critique mainstream treatment methods, and personal and professional journeys. Their conversation highlights the integration of emotional and physical healing, the role of self-compassion, and the value of unshaming in

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00:42:50

Exercise - Part IV

The Out of the Cave Podcast ·

2025/07/14

In this final episode of the exercise series, Lisa steps out of theory and into lived experience — sharing a personal essay written during her senior year of college. Titled “Inside the Box,” the piece chronicles one intense day inside a CrossFit gym. Topics Include:CrossFit Exercise EnthusiastsCommunityPersonal Transformation[1:05] Lisa explains her intention to wrap up the conversation on exercise by sharing a personal essay she wrote 10 years ago, rather than continuing with her own thoughts,

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