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Warfare of Art & Law Podcast

Stephanie Drawdy

Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy.

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60:50

Multidisciplinary Artist Bayeté Ross Smith on Art,...

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2026/02/01

Send us a textmultidisciplinary artist/visual journalist/filmmaker/education worker Bayeté Ross SmithShow Notes:2:00 Bayeté Ross Smith’s background, work and collaboration7:00 relevance of colonialism in transnational issues 9:50 collective brain trust/collective culture14:30 employing technology with storytelling20:30 creatives’ protection of their metadata24:40 “art” and “data” as information 27:50 “human authorship” and copyright 34:25 bias proliferation with AI39:40 power of art and media to

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63:41

Steven Gambardella on Stoicism: Its Benefits and...

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2026/01/18

Send us a textPlease visit Steven Gambardella's site here to learn more. Show Notes:1:15 background in the arts4:00 Dutch philosopher Spinoza’s parallels with Hellenistic philosophies5:20 Gambardella’s Become As You Are7:30 “Stoic Kitsch” blog post 9:00 individual agency and collective action11:00 crisis of agency11:20 emergence of stoicism14:00 four-fold root of virtue20:10 four facets of autonomy, perspective, objectivity and control and their relation to the four virtues of wisdom,

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55:27

Italian IP, New Tech and Art Law Lawyer Massimo...

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2026/01/04

Send us a textIP attorney Massimo SterpiMassimo Sterpi photo by Eolo Perfido Show Notes:1:30 Sterpi’s work with emerging tech2:30 shift in use of emerging tech/arts issues3:55 Brazilian artist Eduardo Kac's transgenic work4:30 blockchain / NFT as a testing area5:10 generative AI and copyright6:20 copyrighted works as training data 12:25 11 Nov 2025 judgment by Munich Regional Court in GEMA v. OpenAI (Case No. 42 O 14139/24)14:20 fair use in the US17:05 copyright of outputs23:55 "A Single

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Artist Marina Heintze on Art, Activism and the Holocaust

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2025/12/21

Send us a textLink here to learn more about Marina Heintze.Show Notes:1:00 Heintze’s background in the arts2:30 sculptures of Heintze's father3:30 Heintze’s use of materials5:30 current events addressed in Heintze’s work6:20 Politics series – gerrymandering7:25 Bullet proof vests – assassinations and deviseness 7:45 Holocaust addressed in her work like “Gentian Violet Violence”8:30 "Yitler” and “Dog Whistle” pieces9:50 Heintze’s family research that led her to work with bone planters11:20

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AI & IP Panel Discussion: A Global Perspective Part III

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2025/12/07

Send us a textPhotographer credit for Anja Neubauer: self-portrait created with an AI tool.Show Notes:2:30 Prof. Tim McFarlin’s focus on copyright and authorship3:30 Dr. Caterina Moruzzi’s philosophical/design perspective / focus on authenticity5:00 Dr. Anja Neubauer's focus on global AI/copyright framework5:50 Artist Lisa Lebofsky’s perspective on AI as a nomadic painter8:45 “Authenticity Unmasked”–looking at the artistic process not the product9:55 “Authenticity Unmasked” insight-centrality

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"Through Their Eyes" Exhibition - The Story of Kfar...

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2025/11/23

Send us a text Show Notes: 1:45 introduction of The Surviving Project 5:45 three parts of Through Their Eyes Exhibition 7:00 Wings of Hope messages 9:00 stories from the delegation 10:15 exhibition mission 11:30 future cities for the exhibition: Chicago, Atlanta, LA, NYC, Toronto 12:40 how the exhibition addresses theme of drawing strength from what’s lost 15:00 defining justice – the way of getting back is continuing on 16:30 legacy of the exhibition 18:00 Through Their Eyes Exhibition...

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AI & IP Panel Discussion: A Global Perspective Part II

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2025/11/02

Send us a textOluwatobi Aluko photo by Praise SamuelShow Notes:2:50 Tobi Aluko–Nigerian copyright 5:30 Nigeria’s national AI strategy and creative sector 7:25 Emily Gould – query on tech sector’s strength in Nigeria9:40 debate over UK’s copyright provision for machine-generated work11:40 Johann Brandstedt - Sweden’s approach to copyright 13:40 Czech Republic case on AI and copyrightability 16:40 Aluko – prompting versus creating art that involves effort/process19:00 US copyright for A Single Piece

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Israeli Artist Ronit Levin Delgado on Activist Art...

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2025/10/19

Send us a textShow Notes:1:30 background2:45 shift to add activist element to her art4:00 response to 7 October 2023 during residency at LMCC 5:30 ‘artivism’5:45 workshop at Israeli American Council event6:45 Rosh Hashanah gift for families of hostages9:00 how her work facilitates justice12:30 defining justice through recognition and healing13:20 work as a curator to connect voices13:50 “Artists on Antisemitism” exhibition 15:00 co-curated with director of Jewish Art Salon15:40 LA-based artist

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Artist & Attorney Stefania Salles Bruins on "How to...

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2025/10/04

Send us a textCover photograph credit: Jessica MinorLink to PowerPoint presentation referenced in episode is available here.Show Notes:1:20 intro and background2:40 Slide 4 - Overview of Part I: 6 & ½ tips & tricks: 1 – perspective & point of view; 2 – Light; 2-1/2 – shadow; 3 – value / contrast; 4 – temperature; 5 – depth and illusion of 3-D; 6 – line5:00 Slide 5: Point 7 - Brushstrokes6:35 thickness of paint7:00 blending with dry brush8:00 Slide 6: Point 8 - Layering9:40 ‘fat over

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Curator Michael Jacobs on the Museum of the Southern...

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2025/09/07

Send us a textCover photo by Rhonda Dumas, Pieface Photography Show notes:2:00 Museum of Southern Jewish Experience beginning2012 MSJE moved to Jackson MS and became part of Institute of Southern Jewish Life 3:30 4th year in New Orleans4:50 MSJE’s mission5:45 Chapman Family Research Center6:00 archival vault – over 375 collections and over 4,000 artifacts7:20 genealogy workshops10:00 artifacts from southern Jewish general stores, e.g., 1890s saloon’s whiskey jug12:30 collection digitization 13:35

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Dr. Hannes Hartung on Germany's Nazi-Looted Art...

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2025/08/03

Send us a textTo learn more, please visit Dr. Hartung's site. 2:30 Jonathan Petropoulos' Faustian Bargain: The Art World in Nazi Germany2:50 Hartung’s 2005 book, Art Theft in War and Persecution 3:25 representation in 2014 of Cornelius Gurlitt regarding the Gurlitt Trove5:20 Gurlitt exemplifies issues with Germany’s soft law towards art restitution6:50 twelve works from Gurlitt Trove confirmed as looted7:15 works from Gurlitt Trove with historical gaps in provenance8:50 Germany’s task

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Art Historian Silvia Wistuba on the ‘Malweiber’ -...

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2025/07/20

Send us a textTo learn more about Silvia Wistuba and her work, please visit here and here.Cover Image: Wistuba's adaptation of work by artist Julie Wolfthorn for the cover of Jugend magazine (1898).Show Notes0:00 Silvia Wistuba on equality of artists1:15 Wistuba’s background2:30 Gabriele Münter4:30 ‘Malweiber’ meaning 6:00 timeframe of ‘Malweiber’ labeling – 1871-19188:30 research process12:00 regional approach to research15:00 twelve female artists focused on in research16:30 finding that art

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Dr. Michelle Fabiani & Dr. Fiona Greenland on CURIA...

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2025/06/15

Send us a textShow notes:0:00 Dr. Fiona Greenland discussing collabarative work with Curia co-founder Dr. Michelle Fabiana 2:00 Dr. Michelle Fabiani's background3:40 Dr. Greenland’s background5:40 collaboration between Greenland and Fabiani7:10 overview of Curia Lab9:40 Informatics, the science of information11:30 Syrian project - how robust and reliable data on scope of Syrian looting was with a review of remote sensing imagery 15:10 participants in Syrian project 17:20 Syrian project –

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54:28

The Healing Power of Art - A Conversation with...

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2025/05/04

Send us a textSHOW NOTES:0:00 artist & attorney Gina McKlveen1:05 artist & retired judge Jerry Alonzo - the impact of depression3:00 documentary American Symphony 3:50 Suleika Jaouad - release she experienced by painting about cancer 6:00 Alonzo’s “Out of Balance” 6:40 “Civic Sacrement"8:20 woodwork during Alonzo’s time as a judge 9:00 “The Jury Box” 10:45 “The Judgment” 11:45 “Justice is God’s Plumb Line” 12:30 Environmental works like “Monstronse” 13:15 “Justice?” 14:15

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Jesuit Priest & Artist Father Jonathan Harmon on Art...

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2025/04/13

Send us a textTo learn more, please visit Father Harmon's site.Show notes:1:15 Harmon’s background and work as priest since 20082:10 teaching fine arts and being a pastoral resource at Loyola University3:00 his work in the arts8:20 history of art in Jesuit community 12:00 Daniel Segers, Jesuit Priest and artist 12:30 Harmon’s process as a painter in light of being a ‘work of service’16:00 Harmon’s painting from pilgrimage through Spain17:30 students’ responses19:15 his attendance at New York

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AI & IP Panel Discussion: A Global Perspective

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2025/02/16

Send us a textShow notes:3:00 David Newhoff - question of authorship7:15 Peter Wasilko9:00 Andres Guadamuz - blog post on AI copyright authorship10:30 China’s focus on “intellectual achievement” 12:20 Section 9(3) of its Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 13:00 Emily Gould - whether copyright is fit for purpose 13:30 UK joint evidence session on the future of AI and copyright law 17:15 Newhoff - use of an artist’s style 18:40 Wasilko - an artist’s training of a model with its own work20:15

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AI, Copyright and Justice - A Conversation with...

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2025/01/28

Send us a textTo learn more, please visit Anja Neubauer's site.Show Notes:1:30 background in the law and tech 4:45 overview of global framework “AI and Authorship Redefined: Towards a Global Copyright Framework for Commerce and Human Originality - Exploring Ownership, Infringement, Moral Rights, and Human Originality”12:35 question of authorship19:35 moral rights26:30 viability of global copyright 28:20 issues of injustice raised by AI34:30 German study about developers’ infringement38:00

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Art/Cultural Heritage/IP Law Attorney & Musician...

Warfare of Art & Law Podcast ·

2025/01/05

Send us a textTo learn more, please visit Amineddoleh & Associates LLC and view Leila Amineddoleh performing Chopin Polonaise, Op. 26, No. 1 and Liszt Liebestraum No. 3.Show Notes:1:00 Amineddoleh’s background and work in music and law4:00 Patty Gerstenblith 7:00 building Amineddoleh & Assoc.8:45 Amineddoleh's work with Greece 10:00 perspective as musician aids in work as attorney to other artists 11:00 Amineddoleh's experience with plagiarism 14:20 Amineddoleh’s practice15:45

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Researcher, Writer & Advisor Frances Liddell on the...

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2024/12/01

Send us a textTo learn more, please visit Frances Liddell's site.Show Notes:0:00 Frances Liddell on justice and technology1:30 Liddell’s background2:50 CryptoKitties 3:50 NFTs5:20 ORAgen & DECaDE research centre 7:20 C2PA 8:15 tokenized rights9:45 ORA use cases10:30 themes from ORA interviews12:15 YouTube as a supportive platform v. TikTok13:00 smart contracts and licensing15:00 perspectives on attribution 16:30 Emily Gould question on attribution24:50 animation sector with stronger

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IP and Tech Attorney Ankit Sahni on the Raghav AI...

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2024/11/10

Send us a textShow Notes:1:00 Anki Sanhi 1:45 Sahni’s background and work 5:00 Eric Raymond’s The Cathedral and the Bazaar - essay on open source development 6:40 association with the arts7:45 trademark enforcement work10:00 infringement case between client working in fashion space sued by global brand12:30 origin of the Raghav project16:45 process to use Raghav18:30 Van Gogh’s Starry Night 21:00 Raghav = Robust Artificially Intelligent Graphics and Arts Visualizer 21:45 Indian copyright application

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