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The Hansel and Gretel Code

Curtis Cates, MD

forget any "moral of the story," the real meaning of Hansel and Gretel lies hidden between the lines... like a real-life Da Vinci Code — Hansel and Gretel is a literary treasure map filled with secret clues meant only for people like us to suss out and follow... clues that lead to a meaningful, real-life treasure that"s been lost for over 200 years... a deep dive into the dark forest of Western European History and Culture, the story explains who the real villains are, how they"re still with

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All Episodes

59:19

The Revenge of the Grimms, or: An Episode That’s Best...

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2025/06/02

In this episode we dish on the Grimm’s secret obsession with revenge, and solve the mystery of the stepmother switcheroo once and for allPART 1 [04:32] - In which we learn that the Grimms are running a blue light special on sexual reassignment surgeryPART 2 [11:54] - In which we read a troubling bible story, repeat a cliché that’s anything but woke, and come across more famous last words that aren’t last wordsPART 3 [21:16] - In which we peek into someone’s diary and find plenty of insults, grudges,

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01:02:00

The Grimms Meet a Bond Villain, or Game of Dominos

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2025/05/10

The Grimm brothers challenge Goldfinger to a high stakes game of dominos. Nobody wins but somebody orders a pineapple pizza and history starts repeating itself. Dominos fall, Richie Havens sings, and the Grimm boys show their true color(s)PART 1 [03:51] In which we quote some experts, and boldly go where none of them have gone beforePART 2 [08:17] In which we start counting dominos, while the Grimms become migrant workers and ex-patsPART 3 [20:53]In which we name a few more falling dominos, and make

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01:29:25

Hans and Franz meet King Fritzi-Willi, or it’s Party...

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2025/04/15

In Ep.40 the Grimms try making literary magic and pull everything but the kitchen sink out of their, um, hats. Consider it an act of Bogus Pocus.Part 1 [02:38] - In which we complain about the Grimms’ complaining, but then we cut to the chase, and name the guy who got their peppers hot in the first place... we also introduce his wife — who was known to be pretty hot stuff herselfPart 2 [13:35] - In which we visit a famous gym, a famous palace, a famous promise, and some famous last wordsPart 3

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59:31

The Eternal Wisdom of Virgil Sollozzo, or: How to...

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2025/03/03

In Ep.39 the Grimms write a clunky, cranky op-ed piece and raise the ghost of Virgil SollozzoPart 1 [11:16] - In which we find the Grimms embellishing the truth, and sneaking some personal complaints into the story… complaints that only you and I were supposed to hearPart 2 [17:58] - In which we debate the meaning of belief in turtles and end up with too many hot dogs and politics as usualPart 3 [30:55] - In which we find the N-Word carved into that tree branch thingy: NAPOLEON*transcripts and links

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49:02

E.038 All You Need Is Love, Right?

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2024/07/19

In Ep. 38 we learn a new catchphrase, there's more talk about baked goods, and the Grimms pitch us a few balls and strikesPart 1 [04:49] - In which we do some clock watching, and try to guess what’s really being sold in the Vatican bakery shopPart 2 [14:44] - In which we repeat ourselves, and hear something very scary, and very new, and very scary, and very newPart 3 [24:09] - In which we discover that the Grimms are ritual elders, and that they’ve absconded with GodPart 4 [38:41] - In which we

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01:14:19

The Check's in the Mail, or: Wake the F*** Up!

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2024/06/03

In Ep.37 we smell something fishy, meet a member of the Illuminati, and discover the source of the famous imposter syndromePart 1 [07:37] - In which we're told: the check's in the mailPart 2 [26:59] - In which we hear a dead German poet talking poetry, and a dead German philosopher talking smack... we have reason to mention the Illuminati, and a Facebook group that pre-dates Facebook. Hell, we even have time for a little poetry cornerPart 3 [59:32] - In which we find out that instead of a bedtime

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01:02:23

C'mon Baby, Light My Fire

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2024/03/20

In Ep.36 we rub some sticks together, light a campfire, and roast some heretical marshmallowsPart 1 [07:07] -In which we learn why Ed Sullivan didn’t want Jim Morrison singing his full-throat version of Light my Fire on live TVPart 2 [26:44] -In which Rudolph the Red-Nosed reindeer shows up on New Year’s Eve and separates the party goers from the party poopersPart 3 [37:35] -In which we stumble upon a campfire of biblical proportion. Believe me, we’re talking BIG here. This thing is

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50:21

Thank Goddess it's Friday!!!

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/11/08

In Ep.35 we let the cat out of the bag, and Hansel gets a lesson in the missionary positionPart 1 [08:28] -In which we let the cat out of the bag, give her a nice old Nordic name, and before you know it, hooray, it’s Friday!Part 2 [33:27] -In which we discuss the missionary position on Easter Sunday, and discover a funky medieval connection between pewter dishes and the genius behind Blade Runner*transcripts and links for each episode are available at: betweenthelines.xyz*Chapter Titles read by Anna

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33:39

We Gotta Have More Cowbell!!!

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/09/18

In Ep. 34 we visit Switzerland and India, and find that we all need more cowbellPart 1 [03:20] -In which we see how the head is often clueless concerning what the heart knows, and what the heart wants... and what it wants is: Swiss cheese???Part 2 [23:43] -In which Hansel tells a little white lie… we go scouring the internet in search of the truth, and all we can find is some long-winded, papal bull.sh... er, I mean declaration*transcripts and links for each episode are available at:

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29:56

Runes and Rosaries and Rude Awakenings, or: Time to...

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/08/22

In Ep. 33 we have one hell of an early wake-up call, and wish we were all back in West Virginia???Part 1 [05:43] - In which we have cause to mention the Anabaptists,and, uh oh, it’s time to make the donutsPart 2 [22:26] - In which we have real teamwork... and, some historic subterfugePart 3 [26:35] - In which nostalgia plays an interesting part in the action*transcripts and links for each episode are available at: betweenthelines.xyz*Chapter Titles read by Anna Jacobsen**Original German Fairytale

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24:26

The Power of Plan B

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/07/27

In Ep. 32 Hansel takes a well deserved snooze while we contemplate the difference between Plan A and Plan BPart 1 [04:40] - In which we do some late night thinking about Plan APart 2 [08:43] - In which we do some more thinking about Plan A, and find out what Plan B is all aboutPart 3 [17:59] - In which the Grimms bring up a famous little point of Reformed theology*transcripts and links for each episode are available at: betweenthelines.xyz*Chapter Titles read by Anna Jacobsen**Original German

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58:55

Talking Heads or Plastic Jesus & Velvet Elvis

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/07/09

In Ep. 31 we spill the beans on Hermes Trismegistus, the Magic 8-Ball, and Hansel's Strange Uncle AlbertPart 1 [03:34] - In which we spill the beans on Hermes Trismegistus and find out what kind of hat he doesn't wearPart 2 [15:51] - In which we read the most infamous passage in Antiquity, and find out what Hermes Trismegistus has to do with mowing the lawnPart 3 [27:58] - In which we discover the true origin of the Magic 8-Ball, and meet some famous Talking Heads who won't, er, I mean, can't give

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52:56

Hansel and the Real Doctor Faustus

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/05/26

In Ep. 30 we find the real Doctor Faust, John Oliver, and a Renaissance MeToo movement, all hidden within the symbolism of Hansel's Moon RocksPart 1 [03:34] - In which we meet the real Dr. Faustus and find out he was the Julia Child of Renaissance magicPart 2 [15:51]- In which we learn about the connection between AI, the Magic 8 Ball, and a couple of little black poodlesPart 3 [27:58] - In which the real Dr. Faust pulls a John Oliver and pisses off a whole bunch of Renaissance intellectualsPart 4

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26:21

The Great Revelation, or: Lutheran Stew on a Plate

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/03/24

In Ep. 29 we get hold of a super-early draft of Life of Brian, a former pimp and gangbanger regales us with his exploits, and we order pizza but end up with a messy plate of stew, instead.Part 1 [08:04] - In which the all time greatest game of Simon Says gets its due Recognitions.Part 2 [14:40] - In which we hear about the origins of Pizzagate from 1700 years ago, and end up with a messy plate of stew instead of pizza.*transcripts and links for each episode are available at:

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33:50

The world’s longest game of telephone, or: gospel gossip

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/03/12

In Ep. 28we get an apology from a Vatican PR specialist, we meet the guy who invented Simon Says, and we do some “Fair and Balanced” reporting on what’s gospel and what’s not.Part 1 [05:03] -In which we listen in on a game of Vatican telephone, hear about the earliest Marvel comic book ever written, and pick up some titillating bit of gospel, er, I mean gossipPart 2 [12:24] -In which we do some “Fair and Balanced” reportingPart 3 [21:04] -In which we get the deets on the first ever game of Simon

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35:13

That's a Bozo No-No or: Welcome to Camp Simon

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2023/02/25

In episode 27we go on a magical mystery tour through the dark tunnel of Theurgy, looking for the real Simon MagusPart 1 [09:05] -In which we finally meet the Cumean Sibyl and learn about her travel agency businessPart 2 [20:49] -In which we get to choose a summer camp, the Vatican, um, "opens the books," and we get to play a game of telephone*transcripts and links for each episode are available at: betweenthelines.xyz*Chapter Titles read by Anna Jacobsen**Music and Sound credits for this episode

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52:53

Hansel and Gretel meet Rocky and Bullwinkle or: The...

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2022/10/19

In E. 26 we stick our noses deeper into the magical darkness of Hermeticism, get deeper insight into the Emerald Tablet, and find a new connection between Hansel's Moon rocks and Hermes Trismegistus: in SwedenPart 1 [11:15] -In which we fall asleep while reading the Emerald Tablet, and find ourselves dreaming about some furry cousin of Rocky the Flying SquirrelPart 2 [21:23] -In which we read what some Wikipedia editors have to say about Hermeticism, and then we do some alternate thinking for

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42:46

Hello, Numen!

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2022/09/08

In E. 25 we hit a fairytale fashion show, get a new urge to go chasing rabbits, and then we say hello to the numenPart 1 [02:11] -In which we watch Hansel trying to make enough coin to keep everyone’s shit togetherPart 2 [16:24] -In which we hit a fashion show of fairytale couture and end up giving three cheers for the designerPart 3 [22:24] -In which we discover one helluva a new urge, but then resist the urge to go, uh, chasing rabbitsPart 4 [32:35] -In which we say hello to the numen*transcripts

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56:38

Apples and Oranges and Oreos

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2022/08/21

In episode 24we take a whole lotta measurements, mix apples and oranges and oreos, and eventually have to flip a coinPart 1[01:58] -In which we flip a coin and come up with a new definition for AIPart 2[25:49] -In which we dabble a bit in astrology and alchemy, and end up tossing our moon rocks into a pondPart 3[32:41] -In which we say a few prayers, make a few comparisons, and see how music from the 60s measures up to music from the 80s*transcripts and links for episode 24 are available at:

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39:56

He's on a Mission From God

The Hansel and Gretel Code ·

2022/08/06

In episode 23we bring back some moon rocks and get a lesson in Alchemy 101Part 1 [05:01] -In which we turn on the projector and watch some home movies of a moon landing, and then we find out that our intuition is on a mission: to ChicagoPart 2 [23:13] -In which we get a lesson in Alchemy 101, and…um…phew…!*transcripts and links for each episode are available at: betweenthelines.xyz*Chapter Titles read by Anna Jacobsen**German Fairytale text read by Jürgen Lexow **Music and Sound credits for this

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