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Outside the Secret Service Podcast

OTSecretService

Outside the Secret Service Podcast - a podcast where the former, the fired, and the retired come to share their experiences inside one of America’s most storied law enforcement agencies.

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025 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/11/27

Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Charlie White recounts his 27-year Secret Service career spanning San Francisco Field Office fraud squads, Counter Assault Team work, Presidential Protective Division, and long-term overseas liaison posts in Bonn, Germany and Moscow, Russia. Charlie's career offers a unique insight into how cultural differences can shape security operations abroad. He reflects on leadership, integrity, and relationship-building as the key lessons he took into the private

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024 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/11/11

Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Robert "Bobby Mac" McDonald joins the OTSS podcast to trace his path from serving as a federal probation officer to 20+ years in the U.S. Secret Service. He generously shares behind-the-scenes stories from New Haven, D.C., both the Presidential and Vice Presidential detail and his post-USSS time with the NBA.Now an assistant professor at the University of New Haven, Bobby Mac reflects on ethics, leadership, preparing the next generation of practitioners,

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023 - Retired Deputy Chief of the Secret Service...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/10/28

Retired Deputy Chief Katrina Bonus, shares her start-to-finish journey in the Secret Service Uniformed Division, tracing its history, mission, and day-to-day duties protecting the White House complex, and so much more, in the Nation's Capitol.She recalls defining moments from Oklahoma City, memorable encounters on post, the challenges of construction and security, serving as the first woman Deputy Chief, and her transition to retirement where she continues to serve the US Secret

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022 - Former Assistant to the Special Agent in Charge...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/10/21

This week, I'm fortunate to sit down with the inestimable Jerome Pickett. Jerome started as an intern in the New York Field Office, then hired on as a Special Agent in the same office. He later served on the Counter Assault Team and the Presidential Protective Division where he always made a positive impact. As interesting as his career in the Secret Service is the road which lead him there and the path he charted afterwards. After leaving the Secret Service, Jerome served as the Chief Security

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106:31

021 - Retired Assistant to the Special Agent in...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/10/07

Retired Special Agent John Constantine joins us to discuss his 20+ year career in the US Secret Service, focusing on life after retirement, identity transition, and the mindset needed for protective operations.The episode covers counter‑assault team experiences, leadership lessons, physical and mental health challenges for retirees, diplomatic and operational demands of global protective work, and John’s post‑service plans including consulting and a forthcoming book.

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81:25

020 - UNGA. A special look at the role of the US...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/09/30

Join fan favorites Kevin Dye and Todd Jenkins as we unpack the Secret Service’s role in securing New York City for the annual United Nations General Assembly. We share firsthand stories about the massive logistics undertaking, long hours, cultural clashes, and unexpected moments that define UNGA in New York City.The episode is heavy on humor and hard-earned lessons, post assignments, and memorable incidents — offering you a behind-the-scenes look at how one of the world’s largest security

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88:03

019 - Retired Assistant to the Special Agent in...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/09/23

From driving limousines to lockup, Retired Special Agent Frank Kelley sits down to recount a 23-year Secret Service career - from field investigations and presidential protection to an international counterfeit takedown. Frank also discusses his move to Inspector General for the South Carolina Department of Corrections, the growing drone-and-cellphone contraband problem inside prisons, and candid personal anecdotes about life on the job.

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97:51

018 - Former Special Agent Jon Wackrow

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/09/16

On this episode of Outside the Secret Service, former Special Agent Jon Wackrow recounts his unexpected path into the Secret Service from a career in the hospitality industry. Jon's career teaches us about the power of relationships.Join us as we explore his experiences from being in the training academy during 9/11 (returning to a field office that no longer physically existed), and his years on protective and investigative details. Now as a CNN law enforcement analyst, Jon helps us understand

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017 - Retired Special Agent Darin Kinder

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/09/09

As America approaches the 24th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on our homeland, it's only fitting to hear the story of an Agent who witnessed it first hand. Now retired, Special Agent Darin Kinder recounts what brought him to the US Secret Service in 2000, what happened on 9/11 as a young agent in the New York Field Office, and what motivated him to serve an additional 24 years in the organization. Since retirement, Darin spends his time as a professional speaker with Fierce Faith and has

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102:36

016 - Retired Special Agent in Charge Cindy Marble

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/09/02

Retired Special Agent Cindy Marble joins the OTSS podcast to trace her Secret Service career—from being inspired by Watergate to posts in Houston, the Washington Field Office, the Intelligence Division, and the Presidential Protective Detail. She shares frontline stories and insights about threat assessment, mental health intervention, and how her protective intelligence work led to a new role in the private sector with a focus on connecting scattered open-source information and preventing

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01:41:44

015 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jerry...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/08/26

Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jerry Williams recounts his journey from Uniformed Division posts in D.C. to investigations, Presidential protection for George H.W. Bush, Camp David assignments, and international advances in Northern Ireland. He shares memorable moments and lessons on leadership, process, and public service.This episode offers a candid, fast-paced look at daily life in the Secret Service, the evolution of protection and investigative work, and how those experiences shaped

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01:56:32

014 - Retired Special Agent in Charge Rad Jones

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/08/19

You're in for a captivating conversation with Rad Jones, a retired Special Agent in Charge of the Detroit Field Office. As humble as he is capable, SAIC Jones shares remarkable experiences from his career, starting just nine months before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the life and times of a Secret Service Agent (and the agency) from a bygone era, filled with insider anecdotes and pivotal moments in U.S. history.#Resilience #Resourceful

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013 - PT. 2 Retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/08/12

Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division. In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the

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012 - PT 1. Retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/08/05

Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division. In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the

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01:23:25

011 - Retired Senior Special Agent May Chow

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/07/29

You may call her "Your Honor" but we like to call her "our friend, May". Welcome to the Outside the Secret Service podcast, where we sit down with May Chow, a remarkable retired Senior Special Agent of the United States Secret Service. In this episode, you'll hear May's incredible journey from her early days in law enforcement in San Francisco, to her life on the Vice President's Detail and what happened that day the Vice President accidentally shot his friend and hunting partner. Finally, we'll

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01:53:15

010 - Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jeff...

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/07/22

In this episode of the Outside the Secret Service, we dive into the remarkable career of Jeff James, a retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the Pittsburgh Field Office. Spanning from 1996 to 2018, Jeff shares his experiences as an agent in the U.S. Secret Service. From helping a former President find a belt at KMart, to assisting in solving a cold case while liason at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, Jeff's story is one that would make his hero, Captain America,

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01:30:10

009 - Retired Senior Special Agent Tim Reboulet

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/07/15

Today we sit down with Tim Reboulet, the COO of M6 Global Defense and a retired Senior Special Agent of the United States Secret Service.Tim opens up about his multifaceted career, from navigating complex motorcade routes in Beijing China to the importance of balancing service to country with a personal life. We also dive into pressing topics such as school safety, personal growth, who roots for the better baseball team, and the friendships maintained through such a demanding

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01:53:10

008 - Retired SAIC, Special Agent Tom Landry

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/07/08

Join host and retired Special Agent Jim Holcomb as he delves into the world of the United States Secret Service with his longtime friend and guest, Tom Landry, a retired Special Agent in Charge of the St. Louis Field Office. Celebrating the 160th anniversary of the agency, Tom shares his fascinating journey from his early inspiration shaped by Kennedy-era politics to his unique experiences in government service, first with the US Border Patrol then later with the US Secret Service.Explore Tom's

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01:26:50

007 - Retired Senior Special Agent Craig Fraser

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/07/01

Craig Fraser was all in on his career in the US Secret Service. He viewed his career not just as a job, but as an outward profession of his core values. He credits his time in the #USArmy for setting his life on a disciplined path. America is a better place for his over 30 years of service to our nation. Oh yeah, he also has one of the most epic challenge coin collections ever assembled. We cover off on that too. #Sacrifice #TrasformationalVSTransactional #IntelligenceDivision #FlagshipOffice

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01:59:42

006 - Retired SAIC, Special Agent Ken Valentine

Outside the Secret Service Podcast ·

2025/06/24

Retired Special Agent in Charge Ken Valentine spent 24 years in the US Secret Service, serving on the Presidential Protective Division for three US Presidents, and retiring as the Agent in Charge for the Dignitary Protective Division. He is a gifted storyteller, public speaker, and author of two books. You can find a link to his website below:https://www.kennethvalentine.com/ #YearbookTheology #DirectionNotPerfection #DrivingTheLimo #PreparationMeetsOpportunity #CongressionalAffairs #Mentoring

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