What Came Next

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198: Ep. 155 [Kelly Sutliff - IDtv's 'Toxic'] The...

What Came Next ·

2026/10/02

Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder.As shared in part one of her story, Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired

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197: Ep. 154 [Kelly Sutliff - IDtv's 'Toxic'] A Fire...

What Came Next ·

2026/10/02

Content Warning: sexual assault, rape, image-based sexual abuse, strangulation, domestic violence, and attempted murder.Kelly Sutliff is a survivor, founder of the nonprofit Kelly’s K-9’s: Tails of Courage, and a licensed professional counselor from New Jersey. In 2018, after a devastating grief journey, Kelly decided to return to her search for a life partner. It wouldn’t be long before she met a government contractor promising her the future she desired. However, her entire life changed on

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196: [Jenn Wilenta] What Is Justice? // Part 3

What Came Next ·

2026/09/25

Content warning: sexual abuse, sexual assault, sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, drug-facilitated sexual abuse, drug-facilitated rape, and rape.Jenn Wilenta is a mother, survivor, educator, dancer, and advocate. After pursuing a degree in contemporary dance, Jenn reinvented her career several times to evolve with her burgeoning family. However, her trajectory would forever change in 2015 when she found a folder of videos on her partner-at-the-time’s computer. The videos showed her an

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195: [Jenn Wilenta] Instincts Are Kicking In // Part 2

What Came Next ·

2026/09/18

Content warning: sexual abuse, sexual assault, sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, drug-facilitated sexual abuse, drug-facilitated rape, and rape.Jenn Wilenta is a mother, survivor, educator, dancer, and advocate. After pursuing a degree in contemporary dance, Jenn reinvented her career several times to evolve with her burgeoning family. However, her trajectory would forever change in 2015 when she found a folder of videos on her partner-at-the-time’s computer. The videos showed her an

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194: [Jenn Wilenta] The Beginning of So Much More to...

What Came Next ·

2026/09/11

Content warning: grooming, sexual abuse, sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, drug-facilitated sexual abuse, sexual assault, drug-facilitated rape, and rape.Jenn Wilenta is a mother, survivor, educator, dancer, and advocate. After pursuing a degree in contemporary dance, Jenn reinvented her career several times to evolve with her burgeoning family. However, her trajectory would forever change in 2015 when she found a folder of videos on her husband-at-the-time’s computer. The videos

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193: [Kate Johnson] Survival Mode Felt Like Home

What Came Next ·

2026/09/04

Content warning: child abuse, religious abuse, religious trauma, child sexual abuse material, image-based sexual abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse, mental abuse, intimate partner violence, sexual assault, and suicidal ideation.Kate Johnson is a survivor, writer, poet, and occasional humorist whose work explores the process of deconstructing the evangelical beliefs and structures in which she was raised. A wordsmith who has also lived with a parent on the sex offender registry, Kate shares

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192: [Ginger Goetz] What if She's Set Free? // Part 2

What Came Next ·

2026/08/28

Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and murder.Ginger Goetz is a mother, graphic designer, and co-victim of murder from Kentucky. Since the 2015 murder of her mother, and the consequent legal battle to keep her sister imprisoned for the crime, Ginger has made it her life mission to bring awareness to intrafamilial murder & child-to-parent violence. In just over a decade, she has

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191: [Ginger Goetz] An Uphill Battle She Was Losing...

What Came Next ·

2026/08/21

Content warning: substance use disorder, substance abuse, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, child-to-parent violence and abuse, and murder.Ginger Goetz is a mother, graphic designer, and co-victim of murder from Kentucky. Since the 2015 murder of her mother, and the consequent legal battle to keep her sister imprisoned for the crime, Ginger has made it her life mission to bring awareness to intrafamilial murder & child-to-parent violence. In just over a decade, she has

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190: [Liz] Like a Mime Trapped in a Box

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2026/08/14

Content warning: stalking, child sexual abuse material, childhood sexual abuse, kidnapping, rape. Liz is a mother and survivor from New York. When she was 14 years old, the police launched an investigation with her next door neighbor as the subject because they suspected he had a nefarious plan to groom and likely abuse Liz. After several months navigating an eye-opening, life-changing criminal justice process, Liz was left to heal largely on her own as her freshman year of high school ended. In

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189: [Rasul T. Freelain] I Have to Tell Sheila's Story

What Came Next ·

2026/08/07

Content warning: murder, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, elder abuse, and child-to-parent violence and abuse. Rasul T. Freelain is an author and award-winning, retired veteran of the Oak Park Police Department in Illinois. Throughout his 20-year career, he served in roles including Youth Services Supervisor, Patrol Sergeant, and Detective. It was amidst his work with children and families that he recognized the concept of child-to-parent violence, nearly a decade prior to meeting

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188: [Jordan Wulf] Good Out of All of the Ugly // Part 3

What Came Next ·

2026/07/31

Content warning: extreme violence, brutality, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, strangulation, torture, domestic violence, criminal threats, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of

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187: [Jordan Wulf] The Night I Gained My Freedom Back...

What Came Next ·

2026/07/24

Content warning: extreme violence, brutality, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, strangulation, torture, domestic violence, criminal threats, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of

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186: [Jordan Wulf] The Beginning of the End // Part 1

What Came Next ·

2026/07/17

Content warning: emotional abuse, sexual abuse, rape, torture, domestic violence, physical brutality, kidnapping, and murder. Jordan Wulf is a mother, business professional, victim advocate, and survivor of domestic violence from Iowa. After growing up in a small town and dreaming of becoming a teacher, Jordan set out to create a life for herself post-high school. However, her trajectory changed when she began dating her husband-to-be. Over the years of their marriage, Jordan would be a victim to

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185: [Mary Cain] Nowhere Else to Turn

What Came Next ·

2026/07/10

Content warning: bullying, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, systemic abuse, systemic betrayal, self-harm, and suicidal ideation.Mary Cain is an author, athlete, and non-profit board member that was once hailed as one of the greatest young running talents in the world. But behind her success was a much more complicated story involving the pressures of elite competition, her experience inside the Nike Oregon Project, and the challenges she faced as she tried to find her voice. In the years that

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184: [Shelley Hamilton + Alicia Doyle] Until Answers...

What Came Next ·

2026/07/03

Content warning: child abuse, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the last 48 years has been truly

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183: [Shelley Hamilton] Almost 39 Years // Part 2

What Came Next ·

2026/06/26

Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the

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182: [Shelley Hamilton] Life Was in Limbo // Part 1

What Came Next ·

2026/06/19

Content warning: domestic violence, intimate partner violence, rape, strangulation, asphyxia, and murder. Shelley Hamilton is a co-victim of murder and co-author of the nonfiction book, The Forsaken. She has spent years uncovering the truth behind a deeply personal and complex case that forever changed her family and community, the 1978 murders of Shelley's 24-year-old sister, Rhonda Hamilton Wicht, and Rhonda's four-year-old son, Donnie. Shelley's journey in the criminal justice system over the

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181: [WCN Presents] Episode 1 - 30 Survivor Updates

What Came Next ·

2026/06/12

Content Warning: criminal threats, professional abuse, image-based sexual abuse, legal abuse, cultic abuse, substance use disorder, driving under the influence, institutional betrayal, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, child-to-parent violence, childhood sexual abuse, sex trafficking, murder, and racism. Welcome to a special update episode of What Came Next. Since the launch of What Came Next over three years ago, we have had the honor of hosting conversations with nearly 200 incredible

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180: [Amber Rodgers] A Crisis Victim Within the...

What Came Next ·

2026/06/05

Content warning: childhood abuse, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, abduction, missing persons, gun violence, murder, and mental illness.Amber Rodgers is a survivor, business professional, and creative from Texas. As early as she can remember, her life was filled with chaos. By the time she was fourteen, she was a multi-crime survivor, and by 19 she would serve as a witness in her best friend’s murder trial. Amber moved forward by cultivating a successful career and loving family, until

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179: [Amber Rodgers] It's Safe Until It's Not // Part 1

What Came Next ·

2026/05/29

Content warning: childhood abuse, childhood sexual abuse, sexual assault, rape, abduction, missing persons, gun violence, murder, and mental illness.Amber Rodgers is a survivor, business professional, and creative from Texas. As early as she can remember, her life was filled with chaos. By the time she was fourteen, she was a multi-crime survivor, and by 19 she would serve as a witness in her best friend’s murder trial. Amber moved forward by cultivating a successful career and loving family, until

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