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Better Every Shift

FireRescue1’s Better Every Shift Podcast spotlights the passion and perseverance of firefighters. Hosted by Madison, Wisconsin, Firefighter Aaron Zamzow, the show brings kitchen table conversations to the airwaves, always focused on solutions, positivity and the realities of station life. Zamzow and guests tackle myriad hot topics, whether fire service, news or even pop culture-focused, bringing some levity to the often very serious nature of the profession. Dig into what drives firefighters to

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48:45

What’s your bold vision? Chief Dan Munsey talks...

Better Every Shift ·

2026/03/26

How can we be the best 2030 fire department, today? That’s Fire Chief Dan Munsey’s goal for the San Bernardino County (Calif.) Fire Protection District, which has become one of the most progressive agencies in the country in recent years. Chief Munsey details some of the initiatives underway at SBCFPD and urges fire service leaders to prioritize technology and innovation that better serves both the community and the membership. Considering the current pace of change, Munsey underscores that “what

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49:50

If Gordon Graham ran the country ...

Better Every Shift ·

2026/03/12

The man, the myth, the legend Gordon Graham returns to Better Every Shift to deliver several new doses of commonsense wisdom, including three things he would do if he ran the country. Gordon spotlights Lexipol’s upcoming First Responder Wellness Week, shares the 10 Fs of a long and fulfilling career, and asks key questions to help you get back on track.Learn more about First Responder Wellness Week, March 23-27, and register for the FRWW daily webinars. Email bettereveryshift@firerescue1.com to

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33:02

Is firefighter stress really different? Captain Marc...

Better Every Shift ·

2026/03/05

Mental health shouldn’t be treated as a crisis — it should be part of our operational readiness. That’s the charge from Captain Marc Wysocki, who joins Zam for a discussion on the cultural changes needed to address mental health, the implications of assigning your job as your identity, and how to do a “personnel 360” to for your crew. Plus, Wysocki shares the personal experiences and research findings behind his article, “Behind the mask: Uncovering the root causes of mental health challenges in the

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48:25

The 24/72 push: James Geering urges shift schedule...

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2026/02/26

“If you build it, they will come” — a fourth shift with a 24/72 schedule, that is. Behind the Shield podcaster James Geering details the power of a shift schedule that not only allows firefighters to perform at their best but also attracts new members to the profession. He spotlights the departments that have made the switch and offers a simple formula that can make it work.Behind the Shield podcast 24/72 information Email bettereveryshift@firerescue1.com to share your feedback.

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39:03

How’s your leadership pipeline?

Better Every Shift ·

2026/02/19

Promotion is not preparation. Firefighters need training to step into the company officer role, just as company officers need guidance for advancing in their careers. Sarasota County (Florida) Battalion Chief Jesse Schilling shares resources that can ease the transition and strengthen company officers’ leadership skills, including the soft skills that can make all the difference with crews. Schilling also digs into some of the biggest challenges and opportunities related to firefighter recruitment,

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23:14

Training for the big moment — sometimes you only get...

Better Every Shift ·

2026/02/12

Palms sweaty? Knees weak? Arms heavy? Good. That means you care.Zam’s borrowing a page from Eminem’s “Lose Yourself” to underscore a hard truth about the fireground: Sometimes you only get one shot. There is no rewind on a mayday, no reset button on a rescue and no do-over on a critical command decision. Zam draws parallels between elite athletes training for their Olympic moment and firefighters preparing for the call that will test everything they know. Sharing stories from the sports world and

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47:47

Rehab stations: Your sabbatical from zombie mode

Better Every Shift ·

2026/02/05

You may have seen (or at least heard of) the mid-2000s TV show “Pimp My Ride,” where a car is elaborately customized for its owner. But what about “Pimp My Station”? That’s how Battalion Chief Greg Sawyer jokingly describes a program that turned one of his department’s slower stations into a kind of sabbatical where crews can rotate in for a month — they are still on the clock but given some downtime to get out of zombie mode. Plus, the station is tricked out with all sorts of cool health-focused

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39:56

What could go wrong? Game out fire command for major...

Better Every Shift ·

2026/01/29

Major events are coming to a city near you — soon! From the Super Bowl and FIFA events to large-scale festivals and the America 250 celebrations, fire departments across the country are being tapped to run command and manage attendee safety. “It’s exciting and terrorizing at the same time,” Chief Bryan Frieders says of the initial assignment, trying to figure out where to begin. Frieders breaks down the fire service role, namely how command authority is established, communicated and exercised before

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48:25

It’s time to track your incidents. Chief Oates...

Better Every Shift ·

2026/01/22

“Document everything.” It’s advice commonly given in legal, medical and workplace settings — and now the fire service. Tracking fireground exposures, traumatic calls, hazmat incidents and even workplace incivility gives firefighters a reliable record to reference if health, insurance or legal questions arise later. Chief John Oates explains how the IPSDI Exposure Tracker allows firefighters to document the full scope of the job, including the calls they may not think matter at the time. Because the

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47:25

Should firefighters work out in their gear? Annette...

Better Every Shift ·

2026/01/08

Several years ago, a trend emerged on social media: Firefighters working out in their turnout gear under the guise of the “train like you play” philosophy. It’s not a bad idea but, as retired firefighter and human performance researcher Annette Zapp explains, some went beyond functional fitness workouts to include more traditional workouts — something like burpees, hardly enjoyable under normal circumstances, now with the extra weight of PPE. Is it even safe? Zapp is digging into the data. But not

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54:26

Your 2025 after-action review

Better Every Shift ·

2025/12/18

Chief Jason Caughey joins Zam this week to put a cap on 2025 — a reflection on fire service challenges and achievements, plus opportunities for growth in the new year. Tune in to hear their takes on recent hazing controversies, staffing impacts, leadership accountability and other hot topics from the year. Zam and Caughey also share their milestone moments from the year and how they are hoping to get out of their comfort zones in the new year.This episode of the Better Every Shift Podcast is

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54:18

‘Chiefing 101’: The evolving nature of the fire chief...

Better Every Shift ·

2025/12/11

The fire chief job is quite simply not what it used to be — it’s a lot MORE. Assistant Chief (ret.) Jo-Ann Lorber details how the fire chief role has expanded over the years, plus the impact of technology, heightened expectations of accountability and transparency, and how to square these new responsibilities amid a culture focused more and more on life-work balance. Lorber underscores the power of delegation and empowering other chief officers to step up and expand their own leadership

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50:33

‘Stop killing people in training’: Carey’s call to...

Better Every Shift ·

2025/12/04

Bill Carey’s recent article “Everyone goes home — except some recruits and applicants” sparked a lot of conversation about fatalities that occur during agility tests and academy drills, and the need for tougher medical screening, heat-stress limits and on-site EMS. The former lieutenant breaks down what the data tells us about firefighter training deaths, plus the “muddiness” of LODD classifications. Carey, who also serves as associate editor for FireRescue1, shares a peek behind the curtain of news

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57:52

‘Lead yourself first to lead others better’: Chief...

Better Every Shift ·

2025/11/20

Chief Randy Bruegman returns to Better Every Shift to discuss the vacuum of good leaders in the fire service and the many ways leaders (and aspiring leaders) can elevate their leadership game. Zam and the Bruegman tackle marketing mindsets, common traits of strong leaders, plus all this:Managing fast-paced change Strategic visioning “4 minutes to excellence” The Leadership Crucible Foundation The Glatfelter Scholarship Foundation This episode of the Better Every Shift Podcast is sponsored

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44:39

Chad Crouse talks AI: We can’t ‘outsource all the...

Better Every Shift ·

2025/11/13

AI can be an incredible tool, but as Division Chief Chad Crouse explains, we can’t use it to “outsource all the thinking.” There are critical parts of the job that require your personal development and review. Chief Crouse breaks down not only when and where to use tools like ChatGPT but also how to maximize their output so you have more time for more important tasks or key parts of the job — like training and connecting with your members. Zam and Crouse cover all this and more:AI sycophancy (or

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63:48

How to process challenging calls: Dr. Derrick Edwards...

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2025/11/06

If you’ve ever been mentally “stuck,” replaying a particularly challenging call or ruminating on a conversation that angered you, then this is the time to tune in. We’re revisiting a powerful episode with Dr. Derrick Edwards, a 20-year fire service veteran who also serves as a professional counselor, digging into several psychological concepts that impact firefighter work and home life. Edwards — aka “Father ’Stache” — also shares how he became a fire service chaplain and why chaplaincy is so

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44:28

‘We’re all in this together’: Chief Mary Cameli talks...

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2025/10/30

Why is everyone in Arizona so friendly? It’s a regional thing — an approach to customer service and community care that originated with fire service legends like Chiefs Alan Brunacini and Dennis Compton. And Mesa (Arizona) Fire Chief Mary Cameli is keeping that torch lit with the department’s strong focus on CRR, member health and safety, and mutual/automatic-aid agreements. Chief Cameli joins the show this week to highlight how innovation underpins so much of the work underway in Mesa, and why

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48:19

‘You are in control’: Dr. Nicole Sawyer on how...

Better Every Shift ·

2025/10/23

Chronic stress is a job hazard. It impacts your ability to function on the fireground, which is also one of the factors causing your stress in the first place. It’s a cycle filled with physiological and psychological triggers that sometimes feel impossible to overcome. Dr. Nicole Sawyer — a licensed clinical psychologist and public safety mental health consultant — joins the podcast this week to break down what’s happening physiologically when that fight-or-flight stress response kicks in, plus how

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44:53

‘You just don’t quit’: Chief Jeremy Craft’s lessons...

Better Every Shift ·

2025/10/16

There’s an unspoken rule in the rodeo world that to be successful, you need a don’t-quit attitude — it’s important when you’re riding bucking horses and it’s also important when you’re a fire service leader. No matter what the roadblocks, you don’t quit until you get the job done. That’s the philosophy that’s driven Lehi (Utah) Fire Chief Jeremy Craft during his early days at the rodeo and his current mission to elevate firefighter cancer prevention programs. We dig into this and much more: His

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53:09

‘This game of trade-offs’: Jeff Stull talks NFPA...

Better Every Shift ·

2025/10/09

NFPA standards can be lengthy and hard to follow; fortunately, we’ve got Jeff Stull here to break down what you need to know, particularly as it relates to the newest big development — the consolidation of key PPE and SCBA standards into NFPA 1850. Stull shares insights into the standards-development process and why it’s always a “game of trade-offs” — gear that provides the best protection while still allowing you to get the job done.Check out these additional resources: The Standards

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