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After the Deluge

A music podcast about songwriting, albums, and whatnot hosted by Justin Cox. Seasons about Bright Eyes, Jackson Browne, and Against Me! are in this feed, plus other interviews. Support: patreon.com/afterthedeluge Follow: twitter.com/routinelayup

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00:50:51

BON IVER: A Conversation with Jim-E Stack (SABLE, fABLE)

After the Deluge ·

2025/07/24

Jim-E Stack the producer of Bon Iver’s 2025 record SABLE, fABLE among many other projects. We talk about how they made the record, Justin Vernon’s patient creativity, playing drums in San Francisco, remixing songs in the blogging glory days, the novelty of this record’s EP/LP track listing, working with Lorde, playing with LEGOS, Vernon on the mixing board, whether they discussed this as the last Bon record, and a little bit about the King of the Hill reboot. CONTACT: delugepodcast@gmail.comPATREON

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00:59:56

BON IVER: SABLE, fABLE w/ Alex Robert Ross

After the Deluge ·

2025/07/20

Alex Robert Ross is a writer and editor based in Toronto. He wrote the Pitchfork review for SABLE, fABLE and for many years served as Editorial Director of The FADER. We talk about how most Bon Iver articles start in the cabin, reviewing the new record, Pitchfork and Bon Iver over the years, “the best album Genesis never made,” releasing the Sable EP last fall, S P E Y S I D E, playing with expectations, “January ain’t the whole world,” pressing the bruise, climbing up a tree, Danielle Haim, a

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00:36:48

BON IVER: A Conversation with Chris Messina (22, a...

After the Deluge ·

2025/05/31

Chris Messina co-produced the Bon Iver records 22, a Million and I,i, among dozens more by other artists. This is a bonus of sorts before we finish up at SABLE, fABLE. Chris and I casually talk about records made on unconventional instruments, exaggerated narratives around 22, a Million, turning April Base into a proper studio, living in Eau Claire for nine years, using gear incorrectly, adapting these kinds of songs live, big-ass headphones, finishing a record in Texas, a quick pop-punk diversion,

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01:08:49

BON IVER: I, i w/ Avery Adams and Kevin W. Smith

After the Deluge ·

2025/05/27

Avery Adams is a producer, musician, and chef, and Kevin W. Smith is a writer and radio host. We talk about Bon Iver’s fourth album, I,i (Jagjaguar), released on August 9, 2019, an 8.8 Best New Music on Pitchfork. Also: Music writing circa 2007, For Emma vinyl sales, album “branding,” Vernon's non-falsetto register, Naeem drums, sliding on cardboard, no click, Texas, Hornsby, Beck, this album's got moments, “Hey, Ma,” bass lines, Aaron Rogers and Justin Vernon interview circa 2019, The Bee

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01:01:47

BON IVER: 22, a Million w/ Ian Grant (Jokermen)

After the Deluge ·

2025/05/06

Ian Grant is the host of the Jokermen podcast. We discuss Bon Iver's 2016 record 22, a Million (Jagjaguar). After dipping into the 9.0 Pitchfork review, we talk about a For Emma sunrise show at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, having his mind blown by this record in impact (and me ignoring it) in 2016, that year's prez election, the OP-1 synth, “It might be over soon,” Kanye briefly, Stevie Nicks singing “Wild Heart," listening Radiohead and Bon Iver while flying, “Staying at the Ace

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00:02:56

22, a Million (Teaser)

After the Deluge ·

2025/04/28

Full 22, a Million episode live now at PATREON.COM/AFTERTHEDELUGE

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01:05:30

BON IVER: Bon Iver w/ Mark Richardson

After the Deluge ·

2025/04/21

Mark Richardson is former Editor in Chief at Pitchfork and current Rock and Pop Critic at the Wall Street Journal. We talk about the 2011 album Bon Iver, Bon Iver, for which Mark wrote the Pitchfork review (9.5). We talk about the anticipation around this record, fusing adult-contemporary and the avant-garde, Animal Collective, Bonnie Raitt, 80s R&B, sincerity vs. irony, is this “sad” music?, a careful use of arrangement and dynamics, Heath Ledger, Shakespearian verse, “Holocene,” the albums’

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00:59:55

For Emma, Forever Ago, w/ Chris DeVille

After the Deluge ·

2025/03/20

Chris DeVille is Managing Editor at Stereogum and author of the book Such Great Heights, available for preorder now. We talk about the 2007 Bon Iver debut album, For Emma, Forever Ago. Also going cabin-mode in the Wisconsin winter, this album's lore, the indie landscape in '08, Pitchfork kingmaking, The OC, Garden State, Popt*mism, gentrifying indie music, hearing "Skinny Love" at my bad recession-era office job, "Flume" as a thesis, stacking falsetto harmonies, the

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00:01:43

Season 4 Trailer: Bon Iver

After the Deluge ·

2025/03/19

Season 4 of After the Deluge will go album by album through the Bon Iver discography with a new guest on each episode, starting in the cabin with For Emma, Forever Ago and going in all kinds of directions from there. Subscribe an tell a friend. Support the show, get a zine. For Emma episode is live now: patreon.com/afterthedeluge--@routinelayup

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00:36:04

Michele Catalano (I Have That on Vinyl)

After the Deluge ·

2025/02/16

Michele Catalano has posted prolifically about music on the internet for years. She’s 62 years old and recently launched ihavethatonvinyl.com. We talk seeking out new music as we age, classic rock, new wave, 2015 was a bad music year for her, she bought her new website’s domain in 2004 and forgot she had it, writing about her record collection, Songs for the Deaf, Brand New, Covid collecting, any regretful purges of records?, we’re bullish on CDs, Aztec Camera, her favorite Beatles album, a

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01:19:06

Longmont Potion Castle

After the Deluge ·

2025/01/14

Longmont Potion Castle is a beloved recording artist and anonymous prank caller from Colorado. Interview starts at 11 mins. We talk about touring-band soundtracks, flipwild, deep and uncontrollable laughter, bruschotti, piglets, “After the Deluge” by Sodom, his daily conversation style, the Longmont documentary, whether his calls are mean-spirited, squid sandwiches, Otis, he’s not a comedian, a complete Darwinian society, his funky relationship with language, a feral bodybuilder, looping effects,

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00:59:38

Dylan Tupper Rupert, on Groupies

After the Deluge ·

2024/11/29

Dylan Tupper Rupert is the host of the podcast series, Groupies. It's the latest season of KCRW's Lost Notes. She's also Producer Emeritus for Bandsplain. We talk about birth control, the dawn of punk, a scandalous take on Cosmo in 1971, making a show about sexual relationships between rock stars and teens, that Cormac McCarthy Vanity Fair story, the vampiric energy of Jimmy Page, Pamela Des Barres, Dee Dee Keel, empowerment vs. exploitation, the mid-2000s Seattle scene, The Vera Project, The

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00:57:07

Five Dice, All Threes by Bright Eyes (UNLOCKED)

After the Deluge ·

2024/11/07

Yo this was a Patreon episode recorded with Justin Corwin a few days after the new Bright Eyes record. Now seems like a fine time to share it in this feed. Enjoy. Justin and I talk about the singles compared to the rest of the record, songs we like most and least, The National, Elon Musk in virgin whites, Cat Power, the Alex Orange Drink discourse, Bright Eyes and friendship, Mogis/Nate Walcott, Down in the Weeds, movie-dialogue motif, actually Scorsese is good and Frank Sinatra sucks, Phoebe

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00:43:53

Jason Stewart of How Long Gone

After the Deluge ·

2024/11/03

Jason Stewart is co-host of the podcast How Long Gone. We talk about foreplay in interviewing, lightweight counter-programming when everything's political, Ep. 50 with Willy Staley, listening to podcasts is Gen Z meditation, early Adam Carolla, The Mount Rushmore of Glendale Podcasters, not asking bands about their music, How Long Gone’s marketing strategy, the Snail Mail episode, Guns & Roses bassist Duff McKagan spiked his interview, comedians who talk like your high school friends, the current

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00:06:26

Five Dice, All Threes by Bright Eyes (TEASER)

After the Deluge ·

2024/09/27

SUBSCRIBE ON PATREON FOR THE FULL EPISODE & YOU'LL GET A BRIGHT EYES ZINE-- We talk about the new Bright Eyes record, Five Dice, All Threes: The singles compared to the rest of the record, The National, Elon in virgin whites, Cat Power, the Alex Orange Drink discourse, genuine friendship, Mogis/Walcott, Down in the Weeds, movie-dialogue motif, Scorsese vs. Sinatra, Phoebe Bridgers, Real Feel 105, Stevie Nicks singing “Silver Springs,” Conor Oberst live-show discourse, “Tin Soldier Boy”

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00:31:25

Patrick Lyons, on Jackson Browne's "These Days" and...

After the Deluge ·

2024/09/19

Today it's a short one about a couple of quintessential Jackson Browne songs. My guest is Patrick Lyons and the impetus for this episode is these two recent articles about the songs "These Days" and "The Pretender." Patrick wrote the latter, and both articles are great.The Song That Connects Jackson Browne, Nico and Margot Tenenbaum, by Bob Mehr (NYT) https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/12/arts/music/jackson-browne-these-days-nico.html "The Pretender," by Patrick

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00:57:32

Alex Orange Drink, on Bright Eyes' New Record and...

After the Deluge ·

2024/09/09

Alex plays in The So So Glos and was a formative influence on the new Bright Eyes record, Five Dice, All Threes — out Sept 20th. We talk about Waxahatchee, islands in the PNW, why his body can’t break down protein, his cancer diagnosis, living as if you’re dying, crashing at Conor Oberst's house in LA, casually writing new Bright Eyes songs, a stripped-down record, phone calls between Alex and Conor during treatment, The So So Glos reunion, what the album title means, his tricked-out In-N-Out

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00:51:46

Pieter Pastoor, a Pal and Influence on this Pod

After the Deluge ·

2024/08/12

Pieter Pastoor is the host of Listening Lyrics, a weekly radio show on KDRTfm in Davis, CA. Pieter is 79 years old and he puts out a radio show every week. The first podcast-adjacent thing I ever did was go on his show a decade ago. Fun one for me. We talk about his failed attempt to interview poets in the “late 1900s,” open mic nights, recording live and not overthinking it, interviewing locals > interviewing pros, KDRT, Rita Hosking, don’t be lame just make stuff, biking across Holland,

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00:46:05

Daniel Ralston on The True Story of the Fake Zombies...

After the Deluge ·

2024/07/30

Daniel Ralston is the writer and producer of the podcast series The True Story of the Fake Zombies, available everywhere. We talk about “Time of the Season” blowing up without The Zombies knowing about it, Rolling Stone's Ben Fong Torres, Buzzfeed’s longform era, turning an article into a podcast, ? & the Mysterians, the ZZ Top of it all, small-town history museums, Huell Howser, 70s artists that popped off in the 80s, Jason Molina, British psych and Texas blues, Justin absolutely flubs a

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00:57:00

Steven Hyden on Patio Music & Bruce Springsteen

After the Deluge ·

2024/07/22

Steven Hyden is a writer and podcaster whose new book, There Was Nothing You Could Do, is out now. We talk about the Patio Hall of Fame, why he’s a terrible DJ, vinyl is for suckers, music hits different on the patio, Skynyrd vs. Neil Young, Steve picks the most patio-friendly Radiohead and Pearl Jam records, how he writes so damn much, small-town newspapers, a Mr. Miyagi analogy we can all learn from, “liking Nebraska but not Bruce Springsteen” is a whole type of guy (aka me), Jackson Browne (mark

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