Loading...

PODCAST

ABA on Tap

Mike Rubio, BCBA & Dan Lowery, BCBA (co-Hosts) & Suzanne Juzwik, BCBA (Producer)

The ABA podcast, crafted for BCBAs, RBTs, OBMers, and ABA therapy business owners, that serves up Applied Behavior Analysis with a twist!A podcast for BCBAs, RBTs, fieldwork trainees, related service professionals, parents, and ABA therapy business ownersTaking Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond the laboratory and straight into real-world applications, ABA on Tap is the BCBA podcast that breaks down behavior science into engaging, easy-to-digest discussions.Hosted by Mike Rubio (BCBA), Dan

science social sciences

All Episodes

60:05

The Biggest Risk To ABA Might Be Perception: Autism...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/10/04

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Chris Larson (Part 2 of 2): Private equity didn’t just “enter” ABA, it helped build the modern autism therapy industry as we know it and that reality comes with uncomfortable questions. Mike and Dan continue the brew with Chris Larson from Behavioral Health Business for part two, and we get specific about what investment capital changed at the macro level: access, scale, hiring, payer relationships, and the growth that followed insurance mandate...

en-us

58:40

The Biggest Risk To ABA Might Be Perception: Autism...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/09/27

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Chris Larson (Part 1 of 2): Autism therapy sits at the intersection of healthcare, politics, and money, and that collision is getting louder. Mike and Dan talk with healthcare journalist Chris Larson from Behavioral Health Business about why ABA has become an easy target for skepticism, how federal narratives can trickle down into real-world payer behavior, and what parts of the backlash are cultural versus policy-driven. We also get concrete a...

en-us

66:26

What Happens When Profit Becomes The Plan: ABA...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/09/20

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to spend more time with Stephen and April Smith: It's a pod swap! Please go to the ABA Business Leaders podcast to continue listening to this conversation. If you’ve ever watched a great BCBA become a burnt-out owner running on payroll panic, this conversation will feel uncomfortably familiar. Mike and Dan pod swap with Steven and April Smith from 3Pie Squared to get brutally practical about what actually keeps an ABA company ethical and sustai...

en-us

56:41

Stop Taking The Train Away; Back to Basics in ABA...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/09/13

Send us Fan Mail ABA is proud to present Michelle Burr (Part 2 of 2): A diagnosis can open doors, but it can also be withheld in ways that quietly shut families out. Mike and Dan continue the brew with Michelle Burr, to talk about what it looks like when autism diagnostic practices miss the mark, especially for families of color, and how those delays ripple into access to services, school support, and day-to-day quality of life. From there, we get honest about labels. We’ve all seen how a la...

en-us

58:19

Stop Taking The Train Away; Back to Basics in ABA...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/09/06

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Michelle Burr (Part 1 of 2): The fastest way to lose what makes ABA powerful is to turn it into a checklist. Mike and Dan sit down with Michelle Burr, a veteran clinician with decades in autism services, to talk about what happens when real teaching gets buried under perfect data sheets, rigid protocols, and insurance-driven “progress” that doesn’t generalize. Michelle walks us through her origin story, the early in-home era, and the Wisconsin ...

en-us

50:14

Assistive, Augmentative, Alternative: Talking Tech...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/08/30

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Jennifer Kraft (Part 2 of 2): A single line in the wrong plan can change a child’s whole trajectory: “increase compliance.” We dig into what it looks like to replace that mindset with support that actually removes barriers, starting with augmentative and alternative communication and the broader world of assistive technology. We talk with Jennifer Kraft about why you are never too young or too old to start AAC, and why it is devastating when so...

en-us

56:58

Assistive, Augmentative, Alternative: Talking Tech...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/08/23

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Jennifer Kraft (Part 1 of 2): AAC is everywhere right now, but too many people still treat it like a gadget instead of a voice. Mike and Dan sit down with Jennifer Kraft, a longtime special educator, assistive technology specialist, and BCBA, about what actually makes augmentative and alternative communication work in the real world and what goes wrong when devices get handed out without true assessment, training, or follow-through. Jennifer sh...

en-us

55:46

The 'Hidden' Skills Behind Great ABA Leadership:...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/08/16

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Kristyn Peterson (Part 2 of 2): The hardest part of behavior analysis isn’t the data sheet, it’s the human side: how you show up, how you lead, and how you make change feel doable. ABA on Tap is back with Dr. Kristen Peterson for a candid, practical conversation that connects behavioral artistry to the real-world pressures BCBAs face when business models clash with clinical values. If you’ve ever felt like you’re “making humans do the thin...

en-us

58:47

The 'Hidden' Skills Behind Great ABA Leadership:...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/08/09

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Kristyn Peterson (Part 1 of 2): A BCBA passes the exam, gets promoted fast, and suddenly has to lead teams, train new RBTs, manage payer demands, and still protect the client’s care. That jump can feel like getting handed the keys to a moving car, especially in underserved markets where there is no mentorship bench and no clean roadmap for what a clinical director should actually do. Kristen Peterson joins ABA on Tap to tell the truth about ear...

en-us

59:46

What If “Hardwired” Is Just History: Breaking the...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/08/02

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Mark Malady (Part 2 of 2): If you have ever felt pressured to list “behaviors for reduction” even when you know the real need is skill building, this conversation will hit home. ABA on Tap continues our sit down with Mark Malady, to talk about constructional ABA, where the aim is not to stop behavior for everyone else’s comfort but to build the repertoires that let a learner get their needs met with more freedom, safety, and dignity. We get int...

en-us

58:26

What If “Hardwired” Is Just History: Breaking the...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/07/26

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Mark Malady (Part 1 of 2): A piece of duct tape on the floor becomes a turning point for how we think about safety, reinforcement, and basic human connection. Mike and Dan sit down with Mark Malady to trace the long arc from an IEP and constant school changes to building programs for adults with severe aggression and minimal communication. Along the way, Mark shares the moment he stopped accepting the “he doesn’t like people” assumption and star...

en-us

54:32

From Adaptive PE To BCBA Leadership In Schools: Lupe...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/07/19

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to sit down with Lupe Castañeda (Part 2 of 2): You can have the best behavior plan in the world and still fail if the classroom doesn’t trust you. Mike and Dan pick up part two with Lupe Castaneda, and get practical about school-based ABA, BCBA leadership in schools, and the messy middle where collaboration meets real-world constraints. We talk through what it looks like when we’re “not the experts” in the family system or the classroom environment, yet we...

en-us

57:06

From Adaptive PE To BCBA Leadership In Schools: Lupe...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/07/12

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to sit down with Lupe Castañeda (Part 1 of 2): If you’ve ever walked into a school confident in your assessment, your data, and your “best practice” plan, and still watched it fall apart by week two, you’re not alone. Mike and Dan sit down with Lupe Castaneda, a longtime school-based BCBA and consultant, to talk about what actually makes ABA in schools work, and what quietly makes it fail even when everyone has good intentions. We start with Lupe’s path i...

en-us

54:30

Skittles, A Rubik’s Cube, And The ABA Rabbit Hole: A...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/07/05

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Asia Johnson (Part 2 of 2): A kid can learn their colors and still be worse off if they’ve been trained to silence “no.” That tension drives our candid conversation with Asia Johnson as we wrestle with what ethical, modern ABA therapy should look like when the goal is a real life, not perfect compliance. We talk honestly about how many clinicians are shaped by a single supervisor, a single company, and a single packaged system, and how that funn...

en-us

59:52

Skittles, A Rubik’s Cube, And The ABA Rabbit Hole: A...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/06/28

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Asia Johnson (Part 1 of 2): A two-pound baby in the NICU. A young mom in a demanding academic track. Years of sleepless nights, confusing behaviors, and a system full of waitlists and half-answers. Asia Johnson joins us to share the throughline that connects all of it-- learning how to advocate for her daughter, and then bringing that same urgency and empathy into the ABA field as an RBT and later a BCBA. In this pour of ABA on Tap, Mike, Dan a...

en-us

53:29

Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/06/21

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 2 of 2): Grab a comfortable seat and get ready for your second pour of truth telling and good hiring. "They’re just RBTs” might be the most expensive sentence an ABA organization can say. We sit down with Holli Beth Clauser to talk about truth telling, good hiring, and what happens when companies optimize for speed and margin while ignoring training, retention, and the human reality of autism services delivered in ...

en-us

61:14

Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/06/14

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 1 of 2): Grab a comfortable seat and a tasty libation. There is a lot of introspection to be had in this pour. Your turnover number might look like a business problem, but it’s really a human systems problem. We sit down with Holly Beth Clauser to unpack why ABA organizations keep bleeding great RBTs, why families lose trust when staffing churn never stops, and what changes actually improve recruitment, onboarding, and r...

en-us

55:23

A Perfect Pairing Toward the Eighth Dimension:...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/06/07

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Yev Veverka (Part 2 of 2): Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse, Dr. Yev Veverka, PhD, BCBA-D--a world-class researcher, and educator from the University of Washington. Yev is also well versed as a parent of neurodivergence. We are tackling the flaws in ...

en-us

52:06

A Perfect Pairing Toward the Eighth Dimension:...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/05/31

Send us Fan Mail ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Yev Veverka (Part 1 of 2): Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse, Dr. Yev Veverka, PhD, BCBA-D--a world-class researcher, and educator from the University of Washington. Yev is also well versed as a parent of neurodivergence. We are tackling the flaws in ...

en-us

76:17

Tap Into A Reinforcing Conversation with Nicole...

ABA on Tap ·

2026/05/24

Send us Fan Mail *FOR PART I of this interview, please go to the Reinforcing Conversations Podcast Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by a powerhouse duo shaking up the behavior analysis space: Nicole Stewart and Christina Torres, creators of the Reinforcing Conversations podcast. This is a pod-swap, so part I of this convo starts on the Reinforcing Conversations platform. Please do check it out. Nicole and Christina ...

en-us

130 results

Similar Podcasts

Beyond the Divide

Koala Moon

The SCP Experience

Dr. NoSleep Studios

John Michael Godier"s Event Horizon

John Michael Godier

La Science CQFD

France Culture

A Moment of Science

Indiana Public Media