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Evolving Love

Evolving Love Project

Conversations exploring Non-Monogamy, Conscious Relationships & Sexuality. Join Abbey and her husband Liam, as they share from their own lived experiences, and chat with special guests. evolvingloveproject.substack.com

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65:18

Lily Allen & Our P**sy Palace

Evolving Love ·

2025/10/30

Lily Allen has dropped her new album West End Girl. This record is a brutally honest breakup album about her open marriage with actor David Harbour, and has put non-monogamy back into the cultural Zeitgeist.In this episode, we discuss* Is Lily Allen’s “p*^sy palace” anthem empowering or exploitative?* What are the ethics of writing about your ex?* Why do female rage albums hit so hard?* Does this record hurt or help how non-monogamy is seen?* And… who exactly is Madeline?From kink-shaming to

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65:16

Abbey Gets Envious, NRE Music & AI Doomsday

Evolving Love ·

2025/10/22

This week, Abbey and Liam unpack the difference between jealousy and envy — and how those feelings show up even in the most secure relationships. What starts as a story about a paddle boarding invitation turns into an honest look at FOMO, friendship, and the desire to keep creating “firsts” together after more than a decade of marriage.Evolving Love Links:Website | Instagram | Substack This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes,

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53:36

"Shame Dissolves In Safe Spaces" with Dabaco Sunset

Evolving Love ·

2025/10/12

Dabaco Sunset is a queer-affirming psychotherapist and embodiment facilitator in Sydney, specializing in Gestalt Therapy, Emotionally Focused Therapy, and Embodied Counselling to help LGBTQ+ individuals and clients with alternative relating styles like ethical non-monogamy.Dabaco practices In the inner-west in Sydney at Sunset Psychotherapy.In this episode Dabaco opens up about growing up bisexual and pansexual, his time in Berlin’s queer scene, and the journey from infidelity and secrecy to radical

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55:36

Are Female Friendships A Threat To Marriage?

Evolving Love ·

2025/09/24

“Why do you need a female friend if you’re married?” In this episode, Abbey and Liam unpack the space where friendship, attraction, romantic relationships and trust collide.From jealousy to risk-taking they explore whether cross-gender friendships are threats to marriage, what happens when you forbid them, and how non-monogamous couples navigate these dynamics differently.Do female friendships always pose a risk? Or are they an essential part of a balanced life?Evolving Love Links:Website |

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55:30

Husband vs. Wife - Open Marriage Debate

Evolving Love ·

2025/09/17

In todays episode we play Devil’s Advocate. Can you argue a position you don’t truly believe in? Does switching sides test our own beliefs and sharpen our perspectives?We go head-to-head on:* Should happy couples risk opening their relationship?* Is non-monogamy a solution for struggling couples?* The infamous One Penis Policy — protection or possession?* Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell vs Kitchen Table Polyamory* Growing older: does monogamy or non-monogamy serve us better?Evolving Love Links:Website |

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83:46

Will AI Kill Intimacy? w. Evolutionary Biologist Dr....

Evolving Love ·

2025/09/06

Abbey and Liam are joined by evolutionary biologist Dr. Rob Brooks to explore the rise of AI companions, sex robots, and whether love with machines can ever be “real.” They discuss jealousy over chatbots, the naturalist fallacy, and the deep question of whether humans are naturally monogamous or non-monogamous.Drawing from Rob’s book Artificial Intimacy, the conversation dives into the future of intimacy, the regulation of AI, and what it means for relationships when machines can replicate (and even

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57:14

Fantasy vs. Reality - Secrets & Exhibitionism

Evolving Love ·

2025/08/25

In this episode of Evolving Love 2.0, Abbey and Liam explore where they sit on the spectrum between swinging and polyamory. From loud neighbours and exhibitionist fantasies to navigating crushes, labels, and compersion, they dive into the playful, messy, and honest realities of non-monogamy after more than a decade together.They also share why “relationship by design” is central to their lives, and how fantasy and reality often intersect in surprising ways.Watch on YoutubeEvolving Love Links:Website

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58:32

Pickleball, Therapy & Sex Swings

Evolving Love ·

2025/08/04

In today’s episode we bounce from pickleball courts to cold plunges, breathwork breakthroughs, and even DIY sex swings. We discuss our experiences with therapy, and Liam’s recent experience in a men’s breathwork circle.🧵 Topics Covered🎾 Pickleball Obsession: Why Liam has pivoted from bouldering to pickleball, and how it's becoming the new social sport for connection (and maybe even pickup).🧊 Cold Plunge Confessions: Their first experience with a 3°C plunge at a retreat.🌬️ Breathwork Journeys:

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56:22

When Affairs Go Public - Clinton to Coldplaygate

Evolving Love ·

2025/07/22

In today’s episode we dive into the spectacle of public affairs—from the viral Coldplay KissCam scandal to the infamous Clinton-Lewinsky saga. We explore the cultural obsession with infidelity, the ethics of public shaming, and the complex dynamics of relationships under scrutiny.Topics Covered* Coldplaygate: The viral moment that exposed Astronomer CEO Andy Byron and HR head Kristin Cabot on KissCam.* Public vs. Private Affairs: Why some affairs explode into the public eye and what that means for

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57:17

Is Liam Controlling? You Decide.

Evolving Love ·

2025/07/15

In today’s Evolving Love Podcast we discuss boundaries, limits, and unpack my recent Substack article.Evolving Love Links:Website | Instagram | Substack | Retreat🌿 Upcoming EventWomen's Retreat – October 17–19, 2025 This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit evolvingloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

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67:36

Protect Your Children - Former Detective Senior...

Evolving Love ·

2025/06/30

Today we are having a difficult conversation on Evolving Love. A conversation that puts the safety of our children in the spotlight.To help us navigate this conversation, we have invited on child safety expert - Kristi McVee. Kristy was a Specialist Child Interviewer and Detective Senior Constable for 10 years in the Western Australian Police force.Since leaving the police force, she has worked to provide parents, caregivers, and guardians with the education, tools and strategies they need to

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54:40

"Ask Me How It Works" with Deepa Paul

Evolving Love ·

2025/06/24

Deepa is a Filipina-Indian author living in Amsterdam and her writing explores the balance between being a mother, wife, girlfriend, daughter, adventure, and herself - all at the same time.This release is her first book, but you can also find her writing on Substack at - Letters by DeepaThis conversation is raw and wide ranging and we were so struck by the joy, vulnerability and honesty in this conversation.In this episode we discuss Deepa’s conservative upbringing in the Phillipines, the move to

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54:54

Is Monogamy Boring?

Evolving Love ·

2025/06/16

In today’s episode we deep dive the provocative question: Is monogamy boring? We discuss our own definitions of what a boring relationship looks like, erotic space and desire, the richness of shared non-monogamous experiences, is boredom a form of safety, our dream debate opponents and so much more.🌿 Upcoming EventWomen's Retreat – October 17–19, 2025Evolving Love Links:Website | Instagram | Substack | Retreat This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get

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60:06

Consent Violations in Non-Monogamy

Evolving Love ·

2025/06/09

We explore the nuanced topic of consent violations within non-monogamous relationships. From the ethics of sharing intimate photos to the complexities of informed consent in the context of infidelity, this conversation invites Evolving Lovers to consider how trust, transparency, and communication are foundational to ethical non-monogamy.🌿 Upcoming EventWomen's Retreat – October 17–19, 2025Evolving Love Links:Website | Instagram | Substack | Retreat This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss

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62:28

Who Gets To Be Seen? Sexy Selfies with Dr. Emma Phillips

Evolving Love ·

2025/06/02

Today we sit down with photographer and academic Dr. Emma Phillips to explore the cultural, feminist, and personal dimensions of an activity that we hold close to our heart - the sexy selfie.Emma is a photographer and researcher/lecturer in Visual Communication at the University of Canberra.With twelve years of professional photography experience in Australian media, design, and advertising, and eight years teaching photography and visual communications across Melbourne, Sydney, and Canberra, Emma

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59:50

How We Communicate - Radical Honesty, Conflict &...

Evolving Love ·

2025/05/26

In today’s episode we dive deep into the art of communication in long-term, non-monogamous relationships. We explore the nuances of radical honesty—when it’s helpful, when it’s too much, and how to balance truth with tact. From navigating attraction to others, to the infamous “chewer vs. spewer” dynamic, we unpack how our differing communication styles have evolved over the years. We share examples like late-night pillow talks, wardrobe critiques, and the vasectomy sample drop-off, all while

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58:07

Confessions Of A Dominatrix w/ Mistress Fleur Driver

Evolving Love ·

2025/05/19

Mistress Fleur Driver is a professional Dominatrix and BDSM practitioner with over thirteen years of experience in the sex work industry. Originally trained in the courtesan tradition by European Madams, her practice is grounded in immersive, intentional experiences that welcomes people from all walks of life. From her private dungeon in Sydney to international settings, Fleur guides her clients through carefully crafted journeys of surrender, ritual, and self-discovery.In this conversation we

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62:10

"Beyond Monogamy" on ABC TV - Reactions, Triggers &...

Evolving Love ·

2025/04/30

In today’s episode we discuss our appearance on the ABC’s Compass program “Beyond Monogamy” which was released on Sunday 27th April 2025. We dissect the process of filming, the feedback we have been receiving, counter-opinions presented in the show and how we are feeling after our highest profile media appearance yet…Watch The DocoEvolving Love Links:Website | Instagram | Substack | Retreat This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus

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79:48

Leaving A Cult: Love, Intimacy & Relationships with...

Evolving Love ·

2025/04/14

Evan's story is unlike anything you've heard. Imagine spending your most formative years within the confines of a religious fundamentalist cult. How would this shape your approach to sex, love and relationships?In addition to his vulnerability, honesty and ability to self-reflect, Evan is also a talented songwriter and frontman of his Canberra-based band, The Burley Griffin.In this episode, prepare to be moved as we delve into Evan's inspiring journey: from rebuilding his understanding of love and

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55:46

The Proposal - A Wedding Anniversary Special

Evolving Love ·

2025/04/01

We take the opportunity to celebrate our 10th Wedding Anniversary by reliving the night of the proposal!Evolving Love Links:Website | Instagram | Substack This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit evolvingloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

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