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Teaching through Emotions: psychological strategies and resources for educators

Betsy Burris, PhD, MSW - Psychodynamic Coach & Education Expert

Teaching through Emotions is a Women Who Podcast award-winning podcast that provides a rare form of relief for educators. Hosted by Betsy Burris PhD, teacher educator and psychotherapist, the podcast looks at bad feelings and bad behavior as meaningful and useful. Through a psychodynamic lens, she unpacks how emotions influence student behavior and teacher mental health. If you’re struggling with classroom management, feeling the weight of burnout, or dealing with the "bad feelings" that come with

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60:45

Toxic School? Diagnosing narcissistic organizations...

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2026/04/02

This one’s for the leaders.In this episode, I talk with a most amazing psychotherapist and “Leadership Whisperer,” Jerry Fromm. Jerry does organizational consulting, which means he helps people figure out (as I put it) what the hell is happening psychodynamically within their walls — or within their societies! or countries! since he works with individuals and groups domestically and internationally as well. He does quite remarkable work and tells lots of fascinating stories in today’s conversation,

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61:24

The Frustrations of Having a Teaching Assistant:...

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2026/03/19

On the face of it, having a Teaching Assistant or any adult in the classroom is a boon, right? The more adults, the more expert help students can get, the better.In theory, yes.In practice, having a TA or an adult helper can feel like having too many chefs in the kitchen. Because it’s another person to manage — and that person is more likely to have ideas of their own about how to teach and manage students. Ideas that might not dovetail completely with the lead teacher’s. Which means more work for

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68:03

Care and Love in Education: The case for radical love...

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2026/03/05

Carol Garboden Murray is director of the Wimpfheimer Laboratory Nursery School at Vassar College. She is a lifelong lover of the youngest children, ages 0 - 5, and thinks a lot about what it means to teach and care for them. These topics — early childhood education, care, and love — are very dear to my heart. I know that teachers of young children have special skills and talents that all teachers at all levels can afford to think about and adopt. I hope this interview inspires you to think about and

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57:47

Ego in Teaching: What are the psychological benefits...

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2026/02/19

I don’t think I have ever thought about the role of the ego in teaching. Until now! Thanks to an old student who wanted to talk with me about her ego, Joe and I dig into the tension between having self-regard (and being a little self-righteous) and maintaining amicable professional relationships.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Teaching through Emotions is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or

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56:01

Transforming fear into success. Who doesn't want to?

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2026/02/05

In a departure from the typical TTE conversation, I talk in this episode with Felicia Keller Boyle about her two podcasts, The Bad Therapist Show and What Your Therapist Thinks (if you’re already looking up the latter podcast, you are joining thousands of others who listen religiously). So we’re talking podcasting but, actually, we're talking about emotions. We’re therapists, after all.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Teaching through Emotions is a

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54:03

Meowing in class? What the hell do you do with that?

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2026/01/22

This one’s from a while back about a teacher who was so fed up with a student who was a huge “pain in the ass” that she wanted to quit. Right then and there.And I’ll be damned if she didn’t turn that relationship around in the most dramatic way.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Teaching through Emotions is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Joe and I talk about the difficult

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55:38

AI in schools? Ugh. It's here whether we like it or not.

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2026/01/08

God, I hate AI. And I love this interview. Jesse Dukes, producer of the magnificent podcast on AI in schools called The Homework Machine, discusses the findings his podcast team lays out about the complicated ins and outs of a “drunk guy” (as I put it) who has “crashed the party” (as Jesse and The Homework Machine puts it). Jesse (not the drunk guy) is so articulate and so sensitive to the information his team’s research gathered and reported that listening to him talk is just plain enjoyable

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52:09

Facing an angry parent? Here's how one teacher...

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2025/12/18

It’s a good thing when parents are involved in their children’s educations. When parents establish routines for getting homework done. When parents attend Back-to-School nights, parent-teacher conferences, and student performances. When parents contact teachers with concerns or questions about their children’s experiences at school.But it’s a bad thing when teachers go all nuclear on their children’s teachers.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Teaching through

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48:23

Burned out yet? Here's how one teacher dealt with it.

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2025/12/05

From Teacher of the Year to burnout and depression to “the best year of school that I’ve ever done.” In this conversation, you’ll hear the story of physics and math teacher Stephanie Watroba’s dramatic journey through burnout — what it was like, why it happened, and how she got through it.It’s an informative and intense conversation.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.Teaching through Emotions is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my

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1:42

Boys and Emotions

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2025/11/21

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.teachingthroughemotions.comI’m on a roll with the boys-and-men-in-trouble theme here. My last rant dropped two weeks ago, on November 7th. It was about a bunch of youngish Republicans (all over 30 years old, apparently) who texted each other racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic and generally hate-filled messages with evident glee. Today’s rant is about school-age boys and their rel…

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53:11

Meet my favorite student teacher: my daughter Mae!

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2025/11/20

Here is a guarantee: You will never hear an interview like this one anywhere else. Because it’s a family affair! A Holiday Family bonus episode of TTE! In which my beloved daughter and I chit-chat about basically the things that matter the most to us.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.We talk about* living attached to your soul* how school teaches us to sin* why hatred isn’t bad* how the divine works* what organismic learning isAnd much, much more. Listen to the

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42:37

Sarcasm stings. How can teachers defuse the impact?

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2025/11/13

This episode is really fun because the teacher whose story we wrestle with, Donna, is actually in the virtual studio with us! What you get to hear is a simulation of a (very small) Teacher Support Group where Joe and I ask the types of questions we would ask in a real TSG and work with the data Donna’s answers provide. Listening will bring you into the world of TSGs, where teachers and I get to unpack difficult experiences with curiosity, compassion, and perspective-changing psychodynamic insights

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45:39

Is teaching spiritual? You bet your ass!

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2025/10/30

Yep, I’m biased: I am certain that teaching is spiritual. Not because teachers need to be religious but because the tasks of teaching human beings require heart-based skills: faith, care, love, “unconditional positive regard for difference” — skills that do not necessarily come naturally all the time and therefore demand care and attention themselves. How can teachers (hell, and parents and other caregivers) develop and sustain these skills amidst the chaos of everyday life?In this episode, I

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53:19

Can teachers change a toxic school?

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2025/10/16

This episode takes us back to a Teacher Support Group I led over a decade ago at a school steeped in chaos. What seemed like an unproductive, blame-filled space was actually an unconscious mirror of the school’s deep dysfunction—a fascinating concept called parallel process. Joe and I examine how systemic issues infiltrate individual classrooms and what teachers can do to cultivate a healthy learning environment against incredible odds.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your

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4:50

Can a school get any more dysfunctional than this?

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2025/10/10

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.teachingthroughemotions.comHappy World Mental Health Day! Given that we’ve got 24 hours to focus on mental health the world over, I thought I’d offer a bonus episode for TTE’s paid subscribers. This one celebrates the day by sharing a story of an unbelievably dysfunctional school administration. A story that might sound sadly familiar to some of you.But it’s not just a story of dysfunction! This episode offers suggestions for busting

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59:35

Holding educators accountable in a nice yet honest way

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2025/10/02

In this episode, I chat with two phenomenal leaders: Meg Kenny, Associate Head of School, and Jen Hyatt, Academic Dean, from a unique town academy in Vermont. We hear about their journeys to senior administration, daily challenges, and the fine balance between accountability and human connection. Listen for a real conversation about how to build thriving school cultures.Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.We discuss* Cultivating a culture of belonging, care, and

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48:17

Too judgmental? I think not!

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2025/09/18

In this co-hosted episode, Joe and I unpack a teacher's struggle with feeling "too judgmental" after her classroom space was taken over. We explore how what seems like a simple annoyance can reveal critical needs. We describe how a teacher moved beyond self-blame to embrace her emotions as signals that allowed for more intentional, connected teaching.We discuss* The importance of personal boundaries in a busy classroom* Why we mislabel our annoyance as "being judgmental"* How conflicts are not

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3:16

Here's the actual soundtrack!

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2025/09/09

About a week ago I posted a list of song titles — some real, some made up — that a group of students pulled together to characterize their first week of school. This is the actual song they (I mean, AI) created out of every single song title. It'll make you want to dance! Get full access to Teaching through Emotions at www.teachingthroughemotions.com/subscribe

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56:00

The dangers of empathy for school leaders

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2025/09/04

It is so fun to talk with kindred spirits! That’s what the inaugural episode of TTE’s Season 3 is: an interview with Jim and Story Leonard, founders of Coaching@Altitude and two extraordinary coaches who share a lot of wisdom and insight into the lives and worlds of school administrators (and, therefore, of teachers, students, and schools).We talk about* working with senior administrators in independent schools (relevant for public school leaders, too)* working with school trustees!! (God, boards

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3:13

Get ready for Season 3!

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2025/08/21

Season 3 of Teaching through Emotions, a Women Who Podcast award-winner, begins in two weeks! Get ready for thought-provoking interviews, mind-bending discussions of difficult teaching moments, and pithy stories about teacher successes made possible by the invaluable psychodynamic perspective.And, starting this season, we’re eager to hear from you! Give us a call at 413.239.4158 and leave a message telling your own terrible teaching story. We’d love to put your voice on the air! And we’d love to

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