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In the Meanwhile

Marcus Harrison Green & Nora Kenworthy

No hot takes. No empty platitudes. No easy hope. Just real talk about how we hold onto our humanity, build something better—and maybe even laugh along the way. Bring snacks. Bring questions. We"re figuring this out together.

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Ep 24: The Long Game of Democracy with Charles...

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/11/07

Nora and Marcus are back—running on caffeine, civic duty, and sheer willpower—joined once again by Charles Douglas III of Common Power. Together, they break down the chaos that is election week: why Seattle's slow counts might actually be a good sign, what the polls keep getting it spectacularly wrong, and how to turn that fleeting campaign adrenaline into real, lasting community power. They dive into big-tent politics, the art of re-humanizing our movements, and why voting should be so boring it's

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Ep 23: Beyond Election Day with Charles Douglas III

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/10/31

It's that time again, when democracy throws on a sequined gown, downs a few too many shots of optimism, and texts us at 2 a.m. like, "Hey stranger… you up to vote?" This week, Nora and Marcus are joined by Charles Douglas III of Common Power to talk about what happens beyond Election Day: the gritty, essential, and deeply human work of keeping people fed, fired up, and politically awake once the confetti settles and the hashtags fade. Because when the ballots are counted and the headlines move on,

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Ep 22: Making Revolution Irresistible with Nadine Bloch

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2025/10/24

What happens when you combine nude bicyclists, dancing frogs, and 7 million patriots saying “hell no”? Joyous resistance. Though MAGA would prefer we forget it, protest is as American as apple pie - from the Boston Tea Party to the summer of 2020. This week, Marcus and Nora are joined by Nadine Bloch - activist artist, puppetista, movement facilitator, and nonviolent organizer - to debrief No Kings 2.0 and talk about what’s next. As authoritarian ‘creep’ becomes authoritarian creeps at warp speed,

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01:00:36

Ep 21: Chicago Is Not A War Zone with Alderman Byron...

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/10/17

Chicago is not a war zone. It’s a community under siege, refusing to flinch. This week, Nora and Marcus talk with Chicago Alderman Byron Sigcho-Lopez about what happens when federal power turns local neighborhoods into testing grounds for fear, and how people fight back with tamale deliveries, neighborhood networks, and unapologetic solidarity. It’s a raw, unfiltered look at what resistance actually means when the cameras leave: mutual aid, protest, and the daily act of refusing to look away. It’s

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01:00:23

Ep 20: Democracy Dies in Clickbait with Maggie...

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2025/10/10

When the news starts looking like a haunted carnival (panic at 6, Prozac at 11), who are we supposed to trust? This week, Nora and Marcus grab the scalpel and dig into our media’s open wounds with writer/editor Maggie Mertens and journalist/therapist Sarah Stuteville. They talk billionaire capture of news, the gutting of public media, and “toxic empathy”—which, to be honest, is just what people say when they're allergic to compassion. Together, they sketch a sane news diet (follow people, not

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01:03:41

Ep 19: Dark Humor for Dark Times with Kashana Cauley

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2025/10/03

This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus debrief a joy-sparking night with Stacey Abrams before wading into America’s latest authoritarian cosplay. They’re then joined by Kashana Cauley—TV writer, comedian, and author of The Payback, a razor-sharp novel about debt, policing, and survival told with humor as cutting as it is honest. She talks about why gallows humor is both a shield and a call to collective resistance. Together, they dig into scrappy resistance led by ordinary people, why “voter

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01:00:29

Ep 18: Gregg Gonsalves / Ass Head of Men and Other...

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/09/26

This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus tear into the clown-car chaos of American public health: vaccine policy whiplash, Trump’s acetaminophen-ass-head-of-men moment, and RFK Jr. running HHS like a crystal-healing Etsy shop. Then they call in Yale epidemiologist and longtime AIDS activist Gregg Gonsalves, who’s been in the trenches since ACT UP. He reminds us: public health has always been political, authoritarians hate experts because they tell the truth, and the real antidote isn’t just

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01:09:42

Ep 17: Tech Bros, Escape Hatches, and Other Bad Ideas...

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2025/09/19

Whelp, here’s the episode where we finally ask: democracy or dystopia, which one needs fewer bunkers? Marcus and Nora open on a week so wild it made “Make America Boring Again” sound visionary, then dive in with Douglas Rushkoff (creator of Team Human, and author of Survival of the Richest). We unpack why tech billionaires keep fantasizing about escape hatches, Hawaii compounds, New Zealand bunkers, and DIY Martian hydration, while the rest of us are left with the bill (and the algorithms). Rushkoff

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01:08:36

Ep 16: Metaracism with Tricia Rose

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/09/12

This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus speak with the one and only Tricia Rose: cultural critic, Brown professor, and professional breaker of lazy narratives. We get into “metaracism” (aka the system isn’t broken, it’s working as intended), why stories move policy more than charts, and her interactive project Way Outta No Way that makes systemic racism visible without putting you to sleep. Rose points to real leverage points, like ending property-tax funding for public schools, and reminds

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01:07:59

Ep 15: Turning Outrage into Action with Renée Hopkins

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/09/05

This week, Nora and Marcus sit down with Renée Hopkins, CEO of the Alliance for Gun Responsibility, to talk about a grim reality we’re supposed to pretend is normal: gun violence that’s killing kids every day while politicians offer therapeutic platitudes and zero legislation. But here's the twist—Hopkins and her team have actually made progress on this issue. While the rest of the country cycles through outrage, helplessness, fear, and legislative paralysis, Washington state has been quietly

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Ep 14: Origin Story (GoFund Yourself, America)

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2025/08/29

This week, Nora and Marcus take listeners on a wild ride through America’s collapsing systems, plus the unlikely origin story of this very podcast: part DIY zine, part serendipity, part awkward poetry class with an ex, and a Town Hall conversation that revealed GoFundMe has effectively become our national healthcare system… just with nicer branding. Along the way, they dig into Nora’s groundbreaking work on crowdfunding, showing how desperation got repackaged as an “internet take action button”

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01:07:56

Ep 13: Weaponized Ignorance with Dr. Daudi Abe

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/08/22

This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus chat it up with Dr. Daudi Abe about America’s hottest commodity: ignorance, which is now streaming in a classroom near you! From states rebranding slavery as “involuntary relocation with benefits” to classrooms streaming PragerU like it’s the Disney Channel, we dive into how the powerful weaponize misinformation to keep us confused, divided, and buying Hulk Hogan bobbleheads instead of books. It’s hilarious, terrifying, and just the kind of conversation

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01:10:18

Ep 12: Dan McQuillan on resisting our AI overlords

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2025/08/15

The broligarchy isn’t just cringe, it’s deeply dangerous. This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus sit down with Dan McQuillan, author of Resisting AI, to unpack how artificial intelligence isn't changing the game—it's rigging it in favor of authoritarianism. McQuillan breaks down how Silicon Valley has found its perfect dance partner in far-right movements, and offers a crucial blueprint for resistance. By rejecting the lie that AI dominance is useful or inevitable, McQuillan maps out how we

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Ep 11: Katie Wilson is here to make Seattle function...

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/08/08

This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus catch up with Seattle’s most unexpected threat to billionaire brunch politics, Katie Wilson. She’s a longtime organizer, transit rider, and Americano-splitter who went from dragging mayors in public comment to becoming the mayoral frontrunner herself. Her game plan? No hedge fund sugar daddies, no donor call lists, just a Google form, a ground game, and the radical idea that government should actually work for people. This one is for everyone who’s

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Ep 10: Francesca Fiorentini | Fascism Hates a Good...

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/08/01

This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus speak with The Bitchuation Room's Francesca Fiorentini — comedian, journalist, and professional thorn in the side of fascists everywhere. She breaks down why comedy is doing the job cable news is too scared to touch, why billionaires are basically rich toddlers with Wi-Fi, and how the left can stop doomscrolling and start building real power. From Palestine to potty‑training wins, Francesca shows us that sometimes the best way to fight back is to laugh

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01:13:50

Ep 9: Matthew Cortland

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/07/25

In this scorching episode of In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus sweat it out—literally and metaphorically—as they sit down with disability rights advocate and policy powerhouse Matthew Cortland. With razor-sharp clarity and raw honesty, Matthew unpacks how Trump’s so-called “big, beautiful” budget is actually a legislative wrecking ball aimed at Medicaid, Medicare, and the people who need them most. Matthew shares their own survival story of chronic illness, insurance denials, and systemic

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01:02:24

Ep 8: Gabriel Teodros

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2025/07/18

This week, Nora and Marcus sit down with Gabriel Teodros, MC, poet, educator, organizer, and community time traveler, to talk about how we carry grief, make art, and stay human when the world’s on fire (sometimes literally). Gabriel takes us from losing his home in a blaze to creating From the Ashes of Our Homes, his most personal album yet. And along the way, he unpacks what it means to do “love work” in a world built to erase us. We get into the big stuff: why silence in the face of genocide isn’t

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01:11:22

Ep 7: Karam Dana | To Stand With Palestine

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/07/11

What if everything you’ve been told about Palestine was only half the story, and the half that kept power comfy? This week on In the Meanwhile, Marcus and Nora talk with Palestinian American scholar Karam Dana, whose new book doesn’t just unpack the crisis in Gaza—it shreds the whole suitcase of sanitized narratives we’ve been fed for decades. With the precision of a professor and the fire of someone who’s lived it, Dana explains how Palestine sits at the heart of our most urgent questions: What

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Ep 6: Schuyler Mitchell

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/07/04

Synopsis: This week on In the Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus sit down with journalist Schuyler Mitchell to unpack how we went from “defund the police” to cities doubling down on militarized crackdowns: complete with riot gear, surveillance drones, and bipartisan gaslighting. Drawing from Mitchell’s Truthout exposé on the LAPD’s long history of unchecked brutality, the conversation explores how both Trump and so-called “resistance” leaders like Gavin Newsom helped build today’s authoritarian toolkit

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01:03:50

Ep 5: Dean Spade

In the Meanwhile ·

2025/06/27

Dean Spade joins Nora and Marcus for a conversation about how our relationships show up in our activism, politics, and everyday life. Mentioned in the episode: Love in a F*cked Up World by Dean Spade | Love in a Fucked Up World Podcast | Mutual Aid by Dean Spade | Facing Collapse Together study group | Movement Memos: Bizarre and Dangerous Utopian Ideology Has Quietly Taken Hold of Tech World | Pipsqueak | Left Bank Books | Exarcheia | Inside Exarcheia on The Guardian (2019) | Demise of a

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