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The Dissociative Table

Various hosts and guests

Named for George Fraser"s famous technique, The Dissociative Table is a forum for leaders in the field of complex trauma treatment to share innovations and insights regarding theory and application. Synthesis of effective modalities is a major focus, as is the development of narrative meaning as a healing objective beyond symptom relief. TDT does not specifically endorse any modalities or schools of thought; however, many of the hosts and guests are connected to the EMDR Institute and the larger

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All Episodes

00:32:30

The Dissociation of "I and Thou": AI, authenticity,...

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2024/10/27

This episode is the fourth in a four-part series, featuring a conversation with Sander Kamphuis, CEO and founder of Moovd. He and his colleagues have created an AI-driven, but 100% therapist-controlled EMDR software called WeMind, as explained in previous episodes.This episode has nothing to do with WeMind, Instead, the host and Sander discuss the ethical dilemma created by a hypothetical AI therapist healing developmental trauma, in that at some level, the client is passing the "Turing Test" if

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00:28:12

The inevitable AI "therapist": Beyond WeMind EMDR...

The Dissociative Table ·

2024/09/10

This episode is the third in a four-part series, featuring a conversation with Sander Kamphuis, CEO and founder of Moovd. He and his colleagues have created an AI-driven, but 100% therapist-controlled EMDR software called WeMind, as explained in previous episodes.However, this episode has little to do with WeMind itself, and explores what comes next. The cat is out of the bag with regard to AI and EMDR (and the market to be tapped), and it is only a small step in programming to train a

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00:11:10

10 SECOND AI-DRIVEN FLASH TECHNIQUE: What does it say...

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2024/08/19

In this brief episode (210), titled "Adventures in Synergy Part 2," the host demonstrates one of many trials he has run with Flash and WeMind's AI-optimized software, exploring both how far the limits can be pushed, and investigating the inner workings of EMDR and Flash. Watching the first episode is strongly recommended, or at least reading the episode summary.Here, a much more disturbing memory has been selected by a different participant. This memory gave the participant a major

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00:36:02

Compassion, Curiosity and Collaboration: Kathy...

The Dissociative Table ·

2024/07/28

This episode, "Compassionate Curiosity," features Kathy Steele, famed co-author of The Haunted Self, advocating for a collaborative therapeutic model in resolving severe traumatization, in which attachment phobias are addressed by giving the client (perhaps "gifting" the client) responsibility in treatment. In this manner, the client begins to experience authentic relationship, rather than the therapist supporting maladaptive coping by becoming either a rescuer or an expert (or

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00:21:01

OFF SCRIPT: Flash, Exposure, AI, EMDR 2.0 (Ep. 207:...

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2024/07/03

This episode, "Controversy! Dialogue! Flash! Exposure!" is an unplanned venture off-script. The host brings up Dr. Phil Manfield's claim (from an earlier TDT episode) that EMDR 2.0 is actually an unnecessarily complex version of Flash--and that the host's recent trials using AI mapping of working memory appear to offer credence to the claim. From the previous segment, the listener will know that EMDR 2.0 is the basis of the guests' work--an accelerated version of EMDR often

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00:37:46

Dissociative? NO PROBLEM! Brief PTSD treatment (Ep....

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2024/06/26

This episode, "Are we wasting our clients' time?" is a discussion with Professors Ad de Jongh and Suzy Mattijssen (part 1 of 2), pioneers in the intensive, brief, research-validated treatment of PTSD, including cases with severe comorbidities like MDD or BPD. Iconoclastic and exuberant, Ad and Suzy are accomplished academics and clinicians, and their CV's are so long as to require hyperlinks below this paragraph! The host presents common objections to their methods from therapeutic

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00:20:12

AI Optimization of Flash with WeMind--Is this how...

The Dissociative Table ·

2024/06/03

In this episode, titled "Adventures in Synergy," the host presents an example of a practical intervention created through dialogue on this podcast. The intervention is the application of The Flash Technique using WeMind software (designed for EMDR) and based in Working Memory Taxation theory, with the intention of using this tool for cases of complex trauma that exceed client capacity for even considering the activation of traumatic memories. This video represents an integration of ideas

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00:39:25

Artificial Intelligence EMDR--What about the...

The Dissociative Table ·

2024/05/15

This episode is the second in a four-part series, featuring a conversation with Sander Kamphuis, CEO and founder of Moovd. He and his colleagues have created an AI-driven EMDR software called WeMind. WeMind is already being used by thousands of therapists with thousands of clients, has involved some of the biggest names in EMDR (Ad de Jongh, for instance), and is the subject of intense academic research.This second episode begins to explore complexities and ethical issues with AI-optimized

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00:32:07

Ep. 204: Sander Kamphuis (Part 1 of 4)

The Dissociative Table ·

2024/04/18

This episode is the first in a four-part series, featuring a conversation with Sander Kamphuis, CEO and founder of Moovd. He and his colleagues have created an AI-driven EMDR software called WeMind. WeMind is already being used by thousands of therapists with thousands of clients, has involved some of the biggest names in EMDR (Ad de Jongh, for instance), and is the subject of intense academic research.This episode contains an introduction to WeMind, how WeMind might develop further in the near

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00:24:55

Ep. 203: Dr. Sandra Paulsen (Part 4 of 4)

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2024/03/16

This episode, "The 'T' in N.E.S.T.: Preverbal trauma, narrative, and esoterica," is the fourth part (of four) of a conversation with Dr. Sandra Paulsen, arguably EMDR's most well-known authority on complex dissociative issues.In this episode, she speaks about the topic she is most widely known for: the integration of Ego-State Therapy with EMDR. Dr. Paulsen is an active clinician, prolific author, and educator. Her lengthy CV includes dozens of published articles in

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00:30:56

Ep. 202: Dr. Sandra Paulsen (Part 3 of 4)

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2024/02/17

This episode, "The N.E.S.T. Model: Ego-State Therapy approaches for the dissociated 'S' (self)" is the third part (of four) of a conversation with Dr. Sandra Paulsen, arguably EMDR's most well-known authority on complex dissociative issues. In this episode, she speaks about the topic she is most widely known for: the integration of Ego-State Therapy with EMDR. Dr. Paulsen is an active clinician, prolific author, and educator. Her lengthy CV includes dozens of published articles

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00:20:23

Ep. 201: Dr. Phil Manfield (Part 4)

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2024/01/20

This episode, "Mechanisms of healing: Flash, OCD, EMDR 2.0, and research validity" is the fourth part (of four) of a conversation with Dr. Phil Manfield. Dr. Manfield is now best known as the creator of the Flash Technique, and for decades has been one of the most influential EMDR educators worldwide.Episode highlights include: -Dr. Manfield presents an argument that Ad de Jongh's EMDR 2.0 is actually a more complex version of Flash, and shares some personal anectdotes. -The

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00:36:10

Ep. 107: Dr. Sandra Paulsen (Part 2)

The Dissociative Table ·

2023/12/08

This episode, "The N.E.S.T. Model: Somatic approaches as essential to the fundamentally embodied nature of complex trauma," is the second part (of four) of a conversation with Dr. Sandra Paulsen, arguably EMDR's most well-known authority on complex dissociative issues. Dr. Paulsen is an active clinician, prolific author, and educator. Her more accessible books are most EMDR clinicians' introduction to treating complex trauma. A "cartooning psychologist," she also has an

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00:28:30

Ep. 106: Dr. Phil Manfield (Part 3)

The Dissociative Table ·

2023/10/31

"A Question of Pain: Grief and catharsis in EMDR, Flash, and psychodynamic approaches," is the third part (of four) of a conversation with Dr. Phil Manfield. Dr. Manfield is now best known as the creator of the Flash Technique, but for decades has been one of the most influential EMDR educators worldwide. This episode represents the best of what TDT intends to offer, which is a challenging, opinionated, but lighthearted conversation about the role of narrative in treating complex trauma

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00:27:54

Episode 105: Wendy Behary (Part 2)

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2023/10/20

This episode, titled "The Great Taboo: The role of literature and myth in understanding complex trauma," features the second part of a conversation with NPD expert, author, and clinician Wendy Behary. One of today's most influential figures in the Schema Therapy world, she specializes in the treatment of covert narcissism. This segment unexpectedly evolved into a discussion of psychodynamic esoterica often eschewed or outright rejected by the trauma therapy world. A dangerous episode,

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00:02:14

Join the discussion forum--TDT Clinical Associate (no...

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2023/09/15

Get no-cost, no-membership access to the TDT online discussion forum for clinicians and those studying to be clinicians. Sign up by emailing dissociativetable@gmail.com. You will be placed on the anonymous TDT Clinical Associate list, which will also send an email when there is a new episode (no spam, and you can opt out). With basic proof that you are either a licensed clinician or studying to be one (including undergraduates), you get instant access to the TDT discussion forum, where you can

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00:32:38

Episode 104: Dr. Sandra Paulsen (Part 1)

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2023/09/09

In this episode, titled "The N.E.S.T. Model: Treating the "N" in complex trauma (Neuroaffective)" Dr. Sandra Paulsen, who played a (the?) major role in taking the EMDR world into the field oftreating complex traumatic dissociation, speaks about her integrative treatmentmodel. This episode will be of great interest to any frustrated therapist! Some major topics covered are: -Dealing with complex trauma through the lens of neuroscience, especially the work of Jaak Panksepp -The

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00:30:14

Episode 103: Dr. Phil Manfield (Part 2)

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2023/08/10

In this episode, titled "A Flash of Insight: Innovative approaches for unusual or highly dissociative presentations," internationally acclaimed trauma therapist, author, and instructor Dr. Phil Manfield addresses the following topics: -The power of laughter, beyond its incorporation into technical elements of Flash -Intersections between the languages of Flash, Adaptive Information Processing Theory (EMDR), and the Theory of Structural Dissociation of the Personality -Conceptualizations

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00:29:48

Episode 102: Wendy Behary (Part 1)

The Dissociative Table ·

2023/07/01

This episode, titled "Covert Narcissism as a Development of the 'Child's Unheard Story' in Complex Trauma," features the first part of an interdisciplinary dialogue with NPD expert, author, and clinician Wendy Behary. One of today's most influential figures in the Schema Therapy world, she specializes in the treatment of covert narcissism. In this episode, the following topics are prominent: -"Covert narcissism" as an under-diagnosed presentation of complex

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00:35:00

Episode 101: Dr. Phil Manfield (Part 1)

The Dissociative Table ·

2023/05/20

In this episode, titled "Attention, Neglect, and Integration: Affect Tolerance in Flash and EMDR," internationally acclaimed trauma therapist, author, and instructor Dr. Phil Manfield addresses the following topics: -The current use of the Flash Technique in Ukraine -Neurobiological underpinnings of trauma processing -Possibilities for reducing dropout rates in trauma therapy through integrative methods -How his own traumatic experience led him to his preference for efficient treatment

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