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Between Two Beers Podcast

Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten

Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access.From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington...Between Two Beers has produced

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2:26:56

Dai Henwood: What Facing Death Is Teaching Me About Life

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2026/04/12

In April 2020, during lockdown, Dai Henwood received a terminal cancer diagnosis. He kept it hidden. He kept doing stand-up. He kept doing interviews. He kept being Dai Henwood, while privately getting to grips with something nobody in his family had ever faced before.Four and a half years after his first appearance on the show, he sits back down with Steve and Seamus.Dai walks us through 52 rounds of chemo, 8 surgeries, a death ceremony in Japan, a three-part documentary, a book, and the moment he

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45:05

Kieran Read's ‘Iron Gate' Explained, All Whites...

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2026/04/08

Behind the scenes of Between Two Beers this week, Steve and Seamus break down the Kieran Read shirt scandal that has gripped our viewers, reflect on driving the former All Blacks captain to his parents' place, and tease what might be their most powerful episode yet.Dai Henwood returns to the show - 52 rounds of chemo, eight surgeries, and a conversation about life, death, and what actually matters.Plus: Steve's soul-searching session with Carl Sheridan, Seamus MCs the All Whites legends dinner

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2:17:12

Kieran Read: The World Cup Final Call, Replacing...

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2026/04/05

Kieran Read is one of the greatest All Blacks of all time. Two-time World Cup winner, Crusaders legend, and the man who replaced Richie McCaw as captain with 800 tests of combined experience suddenly out the door.But four years on from his first appearance on Between Two Beers, the most interesting chapter of Kieran's story is only just beginning.In this episode we get into the leadership journey from the very start - Rosehill College, the PE teacher who changed everything, displacing Reuben Thorne

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Our Plan to 5x Revenue in 3 Years

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2026/04/01

Steve and Seamus sit down with their business coach Di for their first session of 2026 - and they're not holding back.On the table: a plan to 5x revenue in three years, double their audience in twelve months, and finally build the team around them that the business actually needs.They get into why growing your audience doesn't pay off in the same year, why neither of them are natural team builders, and why after six years of running on instinct, the numbers are starting to matter. Hosted on Acast

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2:13:13

The Forensic Scientist Who Investigated 160 Murders &...

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2026/03/29

Ruben Miller spent 22 years as a forensic scientist in New Zealand, working on more than 160 homicide investigations. This is the story of what it cost him.In this episode we talk about what it actually feels like to walk into a homicide scene, the forensic principle that guides every investigation, the case that still hasn't left him, and what two decades of witnessing violence quietly does to a person. We also get into PTSD, therapy, what resilience actually means versus what we tell ourselves it

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A Day with Kieran Read & Why We Broke Up with Chat...

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2026/03/25

Have you made the switch from ChatGPT to Claude yet?Steve and Che did - and they're not going back.In this week's Hambassadors they break down why they ditched ChatGPT, what Claude is actually doing for their business, and why one of them still can't bring himself to fully commit.Plus: the truth about what happens in the studio before guests arrive, Che’s horror dentist bill, going solo at Homegrown, and why putting IKEA furniture together is a life lesson.Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by

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2:27:59

Melie Kerr on White Ferns Captaincy & How Her Family...

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2026/03/22

Melie Kerr joins us fresh off being named White Ferns captain across all formats and scoring a T20 century on captaincy debut - the first woman ever to do so.But this episode goes well beyond cricket.Growing up in one of New Zealand's most celebrated cricket families, Melie was the kid who made her dad commentate 7am net sessions as if she was playing in a World Cup final. She went on to become the youngest ever White Fern, break records, and win that World Cup. From the outside, she had everything

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32:44

Having a Baby, Buying a House & Getting Married:...

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2026/03/18

Che and Di sit down for a one-on-one to go through the 2026 goals - but this is the episode they couldn't record until now.A new baby. A house. A marriage. The past few months have changed everything for Che, and in this episode he and Di work through what that actually means for his personal and professional life heading into the year ahead.They cover the weight goal (and the moment Che realised Doc had been quietly protecting his diet during pregnancy), why Di wants him to cross "investment

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Liam Messam: Adoption, Chiefs Mana & Why He's In...

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2026/03/15

Liam Messam is one of the most beloved figures in New Zealand rugby. Two-time Super Rugby champion, All Black, World Cup winner, and a 20-year servant of the Chiefs. But behind the jersey is a story most people have never heard.Adopted at six weeks old into a Rotorua family that went on to foster close to a thousand children, Liam opens up about identity, belonging, and the household that gave him everything he is today.In this episode we get into the conversation with Gordon Titchens at 16 that

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90s & 2000s High School Nostalgia, Susan Hassall &...

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2026/03/11

Having our former headmaster Susan Hassall on the podcast sent us deep down memory lane.We go deep on NZ tuck shop nostalgia - the Juicies, the pies, the Cookie Time ritual - school discos, balls, prefects, wagging on a scooter, and what made Hamilton Boys' High so special.We also reflect on the response to the Susan Hassall episode, the 300,000 views on the trailer alone, the floods of comments from people whose lives she touched, and her line that stopped people in their tracks: why boys need love

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2:11:57

Susan Hassall, Headmaster of 20,000+ Boys: What...

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2026/03/08

Susan Hassall arrived at Hamilton Boys' High School in 1979 as a 22-year-old English teacher. She stayed for 46 years. In 1999, she became the first woman in New Zealand to be appointed headmaster of a boys' state school — a role she held for exactly 25 years.In this conversation, Susan shares what she's learned about love, leadership, loss, and what it takes to raise good men. We talk about her mantra — "you can pretend to care, but you can't pretend to show up" — the Greek concept of aretē that

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Mike Minogue Joins Us for a Big Announcement!

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2026/03/04

In this special episode of Accidental Business Owners, we welcome our first-ever guest to the show: actor, radio host, and entrepreneur Mike Minogue!Two years ago, after appearing on the Between Two Beers podcast, Mike pitched us an idea that seemed too good to refuse: creating a corporate speaking bureau featuring our podcast guests. We launched B2B Speakers, and it was an immediate hit.But today, we are announcing a "conscious uncoupling". In this honest conversation, we pull back the curtain on

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1:31:50

Tim Brown (Allbirds Co-Founder): From All White to...

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2026/03/01

Tim Brown is best known as the co-founder of Allbirds - the New Zealand-born footwear brand that became a global phenomenon.But before Silicon Valley, before the IPO, and before building one of the world’s most recognisable sustainable fashion brands, Tim was an All White, representing New Zealand on the world stage.At just 31 years old, still in his prime, he made a decision that shocked many: he walked away from professional football.In this episode, we explore the mindset behind that choice - and

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51:45

BTS of the Halberg Awards & Dr Lucy Hone's Message...

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2026/02/25

In this episode of Hambassadors, we take you behind the scenes of a chaotic fortnight.Steve confesses to messing up the opening line of the Halberg Awards and embarking on the world's longest, most stressful ad-lib in front of a live audience.Seamus (a former goalkeeper) breaks down the "Phoenix Nightmare" - THAT viral own goal by Josh Oluwayemi - and explains why he wanted the ground to swallow him up just watching it.Plus, we cover Steve’s obsession with his 94% sleep score, a $42 taxi ride that

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2:06:56

Brad Thorn: Born to Wear the Black Jersey

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2026/02/22

Brad Thorn is one of the most unique champions New Zealand sport has ever produced.A dual-code legend, Brad achieved what almost no one has - winning NRL premierships, World Cups, Super Rugby titles, and earning the right to wear the All Blacks jersey at the highest level.But behind the trophies is an obsession with discipline, standards, and doing the work that others won’t. In this conversation, Brad reflects on the mindset that shaped his career - the moments that hardened him, the sacrifices

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Why Are We So Bad at Setting Goals?

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2026/02/18

We’re kicking off 2026 with a big change! Di walks into the studio with a completely shaved head, addressing the "elephant in the room" immediately.But this episode isn't just about the new look - it’s about looking forward. Di introduces the "10,000 Days" framework: the idea that at mid-life, we have roughly 10,000 days left to live. The question isn't just what your net worth will be when you're 80, but whether you had a "sh*t ton of fun" getting there.We also get into a heated debate about

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1:49:08

Dr Lucy Hone: Grief, Resilience & Losing a Child

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2026/02/15

This episode includes discussion of grief, loss, and mental health, which some listeners may find distressing.Dr Lucy Hone is one of the world’s leading voices on grief, resilience, and how humans survive life’s hardest moments.In this episode, Lucy shares the tools and insights she’s developed through her work in resilience psychology - and through personal tragedy, after losing her 12-year-old daughter Abby in a sudden accident.We talk about why grief isn’t just about death, but about any unwanted

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57:35

Our Biggest Parenting Fails & We Try A Sensory...

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2026/02/11

In this episode of Hambassadors, things get way too honest. Steve finally confesses to his most embarrassing "new dad" moment involving a big night out and a change table, while Seamus opens up about separation anxiety.Plus, we break down the absolute scenes from the Horgan Cup golf tournament, where Seamus managed to get New Zealand legends like Mark Ellis, Matthew Ridge, Patty Gower, and Ryan Fox to record personal roasting intros for the players.We also go behind the scenes of the powerful

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2:03:15

Warriors CEO, Cameron George: The 1,038-Day Covid...

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2026/02/08

This week on Between Two Beers, we sit down with Cameron George, the CEO of the New Zealand Warriors.Cameron is one of the most influential figures in modern New Zealand sport - and in this conversation, he opens up like never before about the journey that shaped him, and the brutal years that nearly broke the club.We dive deep into the Warriors’ extraordinary 1,038-day COVID exile, the personal toll it took on players, staff and families, and how that period ultimately forged the culture and

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1:51:00

Te Radar on Off The Radar, Curiosity & What Makes NZ...

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2026/02/01

Te Radar is one of New Zealand’s most distinctive storytellers, but his career never followed a plan.From anarchic comedy and improvisation to the runaway success of Off The Radar, this conversation explores how curiosity, chance, and saying “yes” shaped a life in television, documentary-making, and storytelling.In this episode of Between Two Beers, Te Radar reflects on growing up curious, the moments that felt like a dream come true, why everyone has an interesting story, and what he believes truly

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