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Rad N Bad Podcast

Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero from Hickory Learning Group

The Rad N" Bad Podcast by Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero isn’t your average ABA podcast, it’s a full-blown wake-up call. These two BCBAs from Hickory Learning Group are smashing through outdated norms and calling out the BS in the field. No fluff, no sugar-coating, just raw, unfiltered truth about what ABA should be. They challenge you to think, question the “why,” and push past complacency. If you"re ready to disrupt the status quo and make this field better for clients and practitioners alike,

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00:54:31

Episode 28: "Self-Care Cosplay" & the Tote Bag Hunger...

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2026/02/23

Live from NCABA 2026 in Winston-Salem, NC, Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero take the stage for the first-ever live recording of the Rad n Bad podcast. In an industry that prides itself on data and behavior change, the guys ask the uncomfortable question: Why do we spend millions of dollars on conferences and return to the clinic on Monday without changing a single thing?Sean and Mike strip away the "professional theater" and analyze the conference ecosystem through the lens of behavior

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01:06:21

Episode 27: Who the Hell is That? Cutting Through the...

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2026/02/06

In this episode of the Rad n’ Bad Podcast, Sean and Mike scrape off the "clinical veneer" to expose the "metallic stench" of a field currently governed by the path of least resistance. They are joined by a true industry heavy hitter, Rebecca Urbano Powell, CEO of Seven Dimensions Behavioral Health and a veteran with 25 years in the trenches.The trio dives headfirst into the messy reality of 2026 ABA: where BCBAs have become "marionette puppets" for insurance funders and

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00:31:59

Episode 26: No-Man’s Land — The Stereotypy Standoff

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2026/01/28

The box of conversation is officially open. In this second installment of No-Man’s Land, Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero take on one of the most taboo subjects in ABA: Addressing and Treating Stereotypy.As always, the rules are rigid—no "it depends" and no using "nuance" as a shield. The coin flip decides their fate, and this week, Mike is forced to argue for the treatment of stereotypic behaviors, while Sean defends the right to stim. From "Quiet Hands" to "Bodily

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00:30:30

Episode 25: No-Man’s Land — The Battle of the Skittles

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2026/01/19

Welcome to the front lines of Season 2. Comfort has killed curiosity in this field, and Sean Yocum and Mike Carrero are officially done applauding mediocrity. In this high-stakes season premiere, the guys introduce their newest segment: No-Man’s Land. The rules are simple but brutal—the flip of a coin decides which side of a toxic topic you have to defend, and "it depends" is a forfeit.This week, the coin lands on one of the most polarizing practices in ABA: Food as Reinforcers. Mike wins

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00:08:51

Rad N Bad: Season 2 Trailer-The Escalation

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2026/01/12

Season 2 Trailer of what is to come on the Rad N Bad podcast....get ready for the escalation!www.radnbadpodcast.com

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00:08:31

Episode 24: The Spark, the Systems, and the Fire for...

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2025/12/29

In this Season 1 finale, host Sean Yocum strips away the "conference scripts" and polished professionalism to reflect on why Rad and Bad was created. This episode is a raw manifesto for the podcast’s mission: providing a voice for the "whispers in the hallways" of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA).Yocum acknowledges the community—from RBTs and clinicians to students and families—who have supported the show's unapologetic stance on the field's most uncomfortable truths. He

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00:18:02

Episode 23: Do As I Say, Not As I Do: The BACB’s...

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2025/12/19

In this episode of Rad N' Bad, Sean Yocum critically analyzes the Behavior Analyst Certification Board's (BACB) disciplinary process, highlighting its hypocrisy and emotional toll on behavior analysts. He cites "Ethical and Regulatory Investigations in ABA: A Qualitative Analysis of Practitioner Responses and Outcomes (Voulgarakis, 2025)He discusses the profound impact on early career practitioners and the organizational failures within the BACB. The episode concludes with proposed

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00:42:22

Episode 22: The Evolution of ABA: Traditional vs....

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2025/12/10

In this impromptu episode recorded live from the Underground Conference, hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero tackle the controversial and nuanced debate surrounding "Traditional" versus "New" Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). They explore whether the shift in terminology represents a genuine change in practice or just a rebranding effort. The conversation delves deep into the history of ABA, acknowledging the valid trauma and criticism from the neurodivergent community regarding

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00:21:32

Episode 21: Medicaid Hunger Games: Rate Cuts,...

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2025/12/01

In this episode of the Rad and Bad Podcast, Sean Yocum discusses the critical issues facing clinicians in ABA therapy, particularly the impact of Medicaid funding cuts. He emphasizes the need for clinicians to speak out against systemic failures and to advocate for better practices and policies. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the Medicaid system, the consequences of silence among clinicians, and actionable steps for empowerment and advocacy.

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00:21:32

Episode 21: Medicaid Hunger Games: Rate Cuts,...

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2025/12/01

In this episode of the Rad and Bad Podcast, Sean Yocum discusses the critical issues facing clinicians in ABA therapy, particularly the impact of Medicaid funding cuts. He emphasizes the need for clinicians to speak out against systemic failures and to advocate for better practices and policies. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the Medicaid system, the consequences of silence among clinicians, and actionable steps for empowerment and advocacy.

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00:20:07

Episode 20: Private Equity Part 2-Private Pockets &...

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2025/11/21

In this fiery, no-holds-barred episode, Sean Yocum returns to the mic to rip the mask off one of the most dangerous forces creeping through the field of Applied Behavior Analysis — private equity. What started as a clinical revolution has become a corporate gold rush, and Sean calls it exactly what it is: behavioral gentrification.From Wall Street boardrooms to therapy rooms, Sean exposes how venture capital vultures have infiltrated autism services, transforming care into commodity and compassion

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00:20:07

Episode 20: Private Equity Part 2-Private Pockets &...

Rad N Bad Podcast ·

2025/11/21

In this fiery, no-holds-barred episode, Sean Yocum returns to the mic to rip the mask off one of the most dangerous forces creeping through the field of Applied Behavior Analysis — private equity. What started as a clinical revolution has become a corporate gold rush, and Sean calls it exactly what it is: behavioral gentrification.From Wall Street boardrooms to therapy rooms, Sean exposes how venture capital vultures have infiltrated autism services, transforming care into commodity and compassion

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00:32:16

Episode 19: The Digital Tightrope — Ethics, Ego, and...

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2025/11/12

In this unapologetic solo episode, Sean Yocum walks the digital tightrope — that dangerous, dopamine-fueled space where ABA professionals try (and often fail) to balance ethical integrity with online visibility. With zero filters and full accountability, Sean dismantles the myth of the “private” professional account and calls out the ethical trainwrecks playing out across social media feeds.From viral memes that weaponize client experiences to “hot takes” masquerading as science, this episode hits

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01:20:08

Episode 18: The 40-Hour Lie: Fixing RBT Training (w/...

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2025/11/03

When “check-the-box” courses crank out certificates, patients and frontline staff pay the price. In this Rad N Bad episode, Sean and Mike square up with guest Tara Zeller, BCBA—Chief Empowerment Officer at Apple Tree Connection and creator of the Empowered RBT program—to tear down the 40-hour myth and rebuild it around fluency, mentorship, and real accountability. We hit the quality gap between compliance and competence, how employers weaponize minimums, and why onboarding and BST—not glitchy

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01:20:14

Episode 18: The 40-Hour Lie: Fixing RBT Training (w/...

Rad N Bad Podcast ·

2025/11/03

When “check-the-box” courses crank out certificates, patients and frontline staff pay the price. In this Rad N Bad episode, Sean and Mike square up with guest Tara Zeller, BCBA—Chief Empowerment Officer at Apple Tree Connection and creator of the Empowered RBT program—to tear down the 40-hour myth and rebuild it around fluency, mentorship, and real accountability. We hit the quality gap between compliance and competence, how employers weaponize minimums, and why onboarding and BST—not glitchy

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00:43:10

Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA...

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2025/10/24

Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA with a CliniviseRad N Bad moves from calling out the broken system to showing you how to rebuild it. Host Sean Yocum welcomes special co-host Christopher Jones, PhD (CTO & Co-Founder of Clinivise) to dissect the intersection of data science, entrepreneurial excellence, and clinical impact.Dr. Jones, a Caltech-educated veteran and Tillman Scholar, brings his mission-driven expertise to the chaotic world of behavioral health. In this episode, we

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00:43:10

Episode 17: The Data Wrecking Ball: De-Risking ABA...

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2025/10/24

Rad N Bad moves from calling out the broken system to showing you how to rebuild it. Host Sean Yocum welcomes special co-host Christopher Jones, PhD (CTO & Co-Founder of Clinivise) to dissect the intersection of data science, entrepreneurial excellence, and clinical impact.Dr. Jones, a Caltech-educated veteran and Tillman Scholar, brings his mission-driven expertise to the chaotic world of behavioral health. In this episode, we dive deep into:Eliminating the Blindfold: How data transparency and

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00:54:22

Episode 16: The Legal Chains of ABA: Non-Competes,...

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2025/10/15

Rad N Bad drops a tactical nuke on the ABA industry's most toxic and manipulative legal tools: non-compete and non-solicitation clauses.Hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero call out the corporate rulebook, arguing that these contracts are not about protecting proprietary secrets—they're instruments of aversive control used to weaponize the labor market, restrict client choice, and hold practitioners hostage.Using the lens of behavior analysis, this episode dismantles the legal

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00:54:22

Episode 16: The Legal Chains of ABA: Non-Competes,...

Rad N Bad Podcast ·

2025/10/15

Rad N Bad drops a tactical nuke on the ABA industry's most toxic and manipulative legal tools: non-compete and non-solicitation clauses.Hosts Sean Yocum and Michael Carrero call out the corporate rulebook, arguing that these contracts are not about protecting proprietary secrets—they're instruments of aversive control used to weaponize the labor market, restrict client choice, and hold practitioners hostage.Using the lens of behavior analysis, this episode dismantles the legal

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01:07:00

Episode 15: Out of the Clinic and into the Chaos:...

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2025/10/06

Are we setting our clients up for failure? In this episode of Rad N Bad, Sean and Mike welcome the fearless Shanti Bradley, a BCBA who is challenging the biggest lie in ABA: that real therapy only happens in a sterile clinic environment. They dive into why the "tabletop simulator" approach is ineffective and unethical, teaching compliance over competence and ignoring the beautiful, messy chaos of real life.The hosts and their guest get into the weeds of why skills don't magically

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