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My .4 Cents

My Point 4 Cents

This is what musicians need to know about the music business today. Every Tuesday, music marketers Matt Bacon, Dustin Boyer, Jesse Cannon, and Andrew Southworth break down what"s changed in music marketing and the music business, as well as what"s currently changing in the industry. You’ll be surprised what they disagree about!To support the My Point 4 Cents and get a whole extra hour from every episode—including full interviews and ad-free banter—become a subscriber. Hosted on Acast. See

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1:12:53

Spotify Launches Stories, Social Listening & More

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2026/01/13

Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, and Dustin Boyer delve into a variety of topics surrounding the music industry, particularly focusing on innovations at Spotify and the integration of AI in marketing and music production. They discuss Spotify's new features like listening activity and the controversial "about the song" feature, which pulls third-party data to enhance song information. The episode also features an interview with Howard Bullows, an AI marketing professional and independent

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54:10

Music Marketing 2026: Insider Predictions!

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2026/01/06

Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, Matt Bacon, and Jesse Cannon kick off the new year by diving into the controversial subject of Drake's alleged involvement in a RICO case, touching on issues of illegal gambling, money laundering, and the ethics of stream manipulation. The conversation then shifts to predictive insights for music marketing strategies in 2026, exploring potential shifts in content trends towards more authentic and raw video formats. Behind a membership barrier, an exclusive discussion

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47:28

How Black Veil Brides Built Their Fanbase

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2025/12/30

In this candid interview, Blasko, formerly associated with iconic acts like Ozzy Osbourne and Rob Zombie, shares his dynamic journey through the music industry, beginning with his early inspiration from Kiss. Starting in 1985, he transitioned from aspiring drummer to bassist, joining bands like Cryptic Slaughter in his teenage years, and later making significant strides with Rob Zombie and Ozzy Osbourne. Beyond performing, Blasko delves into the business side of music, co-founding a management

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26:51

The Secrets Of Boosting Your Spotify Algortihm w/...

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2025/12/23

In this interview, Luke Mansell, the creator of Music Stacks—a platform known for being a vital resource for musicians—dives into the intricacies of his creation. Music Stacks presents Spotify data in a user-friendly manner, providing insights like the key, tempo, and energy levels of songs, and tracking the popular Spotify popularity score. Luke explains his initial motivation behind the platform's creation, citing the lack of ads and quality user experience as key differentiators. Over time, the

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1:18:23

How Soon Do Artists Make Money On Their Music

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2025/12/16

In this podcast episode, music marketing experts Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, Matt Bacon, and Andrew Southworth dive into the challenges artists face when attempting to make a profit in the music industry. They analyze the effectiveness of various strategies, such as streaming, direct-to-fan sales, and the use of social media, while emphasizing the importance of consistency and experimentation. The conversation highlights the necessity for artists to understand their audience, adapt to rapidly

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1:02:58

2025's Biggest Change In Music Marketing

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2025/12/09

Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, Jesse Cannon, and Matt Bacon discuss artist branding and the influence of Spotify Wrapped's new features. The conversation unfolds around vintage music marketer Rob Gross, who shares insights from his extensive experience working with legendary artists like Black Sabbath and The Rolling Stones. The hosts explore the significance of artist individuality, authenticity, and innovative brand positioning, using examples such as Addison Rae's development from a

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1:12:02

How Unknown Artists Chart On Billboard

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2025/12/02

In this episode, Jesse Cannon, Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and guest host Olivia Pierce discuss Patreon and the resurgence of artists cultivating communities through apps, emphasizing how these platforms can offer authentic engagement and sustainable income. Then, Dustin Boyer interviews Nashville-based independent artist Ben Schuller, who has successfully built his career on his own terms. Schuller shares insights into how he capitalizes on unconventional routes such as YouTube covers and

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59:28

DIY Tour Booking Secrets Revealed!

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2025/11/25

Hosts Andrew Southworth, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon, alongside guest co-host Ryan Schutte, talk about the evolving landscape of the music industry. They begin with insights from Ryan Schutte, a booking agent at Forthright Booking, focusing on the challenges and strategies surrounding DIY tour booking and fostering local and regional music scenes to capture the attention of bigger agents. The episode then shifts to an enlightening interview with Jeff Betton and Matt Dowling from Hellbender Vinyl,

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1:09:40

Spotify's Huge Update For Musicians w/ Ryan Slone

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2025/11/18

Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, and Dustin Boyer tackle various shifts and trends in the music industry, particularly focusing on Spotify's recent introduction of video features in the American market and alterations to the Shuffle function. Highlighting the skepticism among American users accustomed to more static interfaces, the hosts humorously delve into their experiences with video availability on platforms like YouTube Music. The conversation pivots to the implications of adding

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1:12:16

Artists Need Three Accounts On Every Social...

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2025/11/11

In this episode, hosts Dustin Boyer, Andrew Southworth, Matt Bacon, and Jesse Cannon discuss innovative strategies for music promotion and the implications of AI in the music industry. They dive into the effectiveness of utilizing multiple social media accounts to maintain a professional image while engaging in aggressive promotion and fan interaction. An interview with IDM-electronic artist RamonPang explores his approach to blending music creation with educational content and the unique experience

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1:01:28

How To Grow A Music Artist In 30 Days w/ Rod Yancy

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2025/11/04

Hosts Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, Andrew Southworth, and Matt Bacon engage in a deep dive discussion on optimizing an artist's reach, aiming to significantly increase their audience in just 30 days. They explore strategies for building a compelling narrative that resonates with audiences and the importance of leveraging collaborations to gain visibility in the music industry. The conversation also touches on the challenges hip-hop artists face in breaking through a saturated market, emphasizing the

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1:04:40

Why Musicians Are All Talking About Group 7 w/ C.J....

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2025/10/28

In this episode, Matt Bacon, Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, and Andrew Southworth explore diverse topics on how musicians can optimize their income through unconventional methods. They discuss creative strategies such as niche marketing, limited edition merchandise, and effective use of publishing rights to maximize revenue. The group discusses the merits of incorporating innovative platforms like Shopify and Bandcamp for handling merchandise and music sales. The episode also highlights an interview

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1:10:03

How Sombr's Marketing Fan Hate w/ Todd White

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2025/10/21

In this episode, hosts Andrew Southworth, Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon delve into various aspects of the music industry, discussing how musicians earn money through different income streams such as merch, touring, and streaming. The conversation features an insightful interview with Todd White, owner of King Volume Records, who shares the story of managing Castle Rat, a rising metal band, and their success on Kickstarter. The episode also addresses controversies in the industry,

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1:13:32

The Dark Side of Music Distribution w/ Olivia Pierce

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2025/10/14

In this episode, hosts Jesse Cannon, Matt Bacon, and Dustin Boyer engage in a dynamic discussion with Alex Bochel, the owner of the EDM record label Spirations Music, covering the challenges and strategies of music distribution in the digital age. The conversation delves into the complexities and frustrations facing DIY musicians and label owners with distribution services, highlighting issues such as poor customer service, payout delays, and the limitations of promotional add-ons. Alex shares his

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1:06:40

Did Taylor Swift's Not Market TLOASG? w/ Lee Martin

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2025/10/07

In this episode, Dustin Boyer, Jesse Cannon, and Matt Bacon explore Taylor Swift's latest album rollout and the mixed reactions it has garnered, noting both fan loyalty and criticism, while discussing its significant cultural footprint. Highlighting fascinating marketing strategies, they feature an interview with Lee Martin, a creative marketing expert with a rich background working with artists like David Bowie and Lord Huron. The episode delves into how Lee combines programming and creativity to

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1:16:23

YouTube Beats TikTok For Music Discovery? w/ John Strohm

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2025/09/30

In this episode, Andrew Southworth and his colleagues Matt Bacon, Dustin Boyer, and Jesse Catted explore a study revealing TikTok's limited impact on music discovery compared to YouTube and streaming platforms. They delve into the intricacies of how people discover music, discussing whether initial exposure or full engagement constitutes true discovery. The team also interviews Jon Strom, a multifaceted music industry professional, who shares insights on artist development, marketing, and the

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1:11:07

What Makes A TikTok Go Viral?

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2025/09/23

Jesse Cannon, Dustin Boyer, and Matt Bacon dive into what makes TikTok content successful for musicians, breaking down examples of viral videos and detail how spectacle, identity, and strong hooks drive engagement. They also discuss how adapting ideas from other genres can elevate a music marketing strategy, and how tools like ChatGPT can be leveraged for industry research, such as identifying the right promoters or venues for a tour. Later in the episode, Matt sits down with Fabrice Sergent,

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1:24:30

This Band Raised $50K Without a Label?! w/ Ryan Shuck

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2025/09/20

Musician Ryan Shuck explores the remarkable arc of his music career, from founding roles in Orgy and Julien-K to collaborations with the likes of Chester Bennington and Korn. The conversation focuses heavily on Julien-K’s latest innovative crowdfunding campaign surrounding their live-streamed event “Ritual,” revealing how the band successfully transitioned from platforms like Indiegogo to fully integrating campaigns into their own Shopify store. Shuck details the strategic design behind

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51:04

The Country Star the Internet Can’t Ignore w/ Bryan...

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2025/09/17

Emerging country artist Brian Andrews shares his journey as a DIY musician from a small town in Missouri to becoming a rising voice in both music and sociopolitical conversations. He opens up about how his upbringing instilled a strong sense of speaking out for what he believes in, which has become a defining aspect of his brand. Brian discusses the interplay between his music and political content, explaining how the passion behind his messages shapes both his songwriting and online presence. He

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1:12:13

How Often Should Musicians Post Each Week?

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2025/09/16

In this episode of "My Point Four Cents," the hosts delve into the complexities surrounding music streaming platforms, particularly Spotify, and how they can be exploited through scams such as improper artist tagging and bot-driven attacks. They explore how fraudulent actors can hijack artist profiles, the lack of effective authentication systems, and the failure of distributors to safeguard creators, especially indie artists. The discussion also highlights how established artists enjoy support that

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