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The Inner Game of Change

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change podcast, where we dive deep into the complexities of managing organisational change. Tailored for leaders, change practitioners, and anyone driving transformation, our episodes explore key topics like leadership, communication, change capability, and process design. Expert guests share practical strategies and insights to help you navigate and lead successful change initiatives. Listen in to learn fresh ideas and perspectives from a variety of industries, and gain

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6:23

Inside The Messy Middle - The Weight of the Middle...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/04/20

Inside the Messy Middle is a special series from The Inner Game of ChangeThis fortnightly short series is for people who carry responsibility inside complexity.Between strategy and delivery. Between intent and impact. Between what was imagined and what must now be made real.These episodes are not about tools or frameworks. They are reflections on judgement, dignity, and the human cost of change as it is actually lived.The Weight of the Middle Feels Heavier Than the Authority.This episode explores a

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52:19

E106 - AI as a Mirror for Organisations - Podcast...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/04/17

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. Today I am joined by Shannon Lucas.Shannon is the Co CEO of Catalyst Constellations, where she works with executive teams to close the gap between the speed of change and the speed of execution.And in this conversation, we explore what that might mean in practice.We talk about discernment. We talk about resistance as a signal. We talk about fear in the system.And we explore the reality of

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7:55

When You Realise the Plan Will Not Survive Reality

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/04/08

Inside the Messy Middle is a special series from The Inner Game of ChangeThis fortnightly short series is for people who carry responsibility inside complexity.Between strategy and delivery. Between intent and impact. Between what was imagined and what must now be made real.These episodes are not about tools or frameworks. They are reflections on judgement, dignity, and the human cost of change as it is actually lived.This episode is for anyone who has started moving, only to find that the plan does

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48:56

E105 - How It Lands - Podcast With Millie Marconi

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2026/04/03

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. Today’s conversation is not really about technology.It is about decision making. It is about how we make calls when we do not fully know how something will land. How we rely on instinct, experience, and sometimes guesswork. And now AI is entering that space. Not to replace the human, but to sit alongside the human.So the question becomes, are we moving into a world of human in the loop, or AI

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6:59

Inside The Messy Middle - When You Must Act Before...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/03/19

Inside the Messy Middle is a special series from The Inner Game of Change This fortnightly short series is for people who carry responsibility inside complexity. Between strategy and delivery. Between intent and impact. Between what was imagined and what must now be made real. These episodes are not about tools or frameworks. They are reflections on judgement, dignity, and the human cost of change as it is actually lived. Send us Fan Mail Ali Juma @The Inner Game of Change podcast Follo...

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51:10

E104 - Consistency In A World Of Change - Podcast...

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2026/03/14

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. Today’s conversation is a special one for me.My guest today was actually the very first person I interviewed when I started this podcast during the middle of Covid back in April 2021. At the time, the world was navigating uncertainty, disruption, and trying to make sense of what consistency meant when everything around us was shifting.Since then, a lot has happened. The podcast has passed one

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7:40

Inside The Messy Middle - When The Middle Stops Speaking

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/03/05

Inside the Messy Middle is a special series from The Inner Game of ChangeThis fortnightly short series is for people who carry responsibility inside complexity.Between strategy and delivery. Between intent and impact. Between what was imagined and what must now be made real.These episodes are not about tools or frameworks. They are reflections on judgement, dignity, and the human cost of change as it is actually lived.In this episode of Inside The Messy Middle, I explore what happens when hesitation

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5:49

Inside The Messy Middle - When Human Hesitation Is...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/02/19

Inside the Messy Middle is a special series from The Inner Game of ChangeThis fortnightly short series is for people who carry responsibility inside complexity.Between strategy and delivery. Between intent and impact. Between what was imagined and what must now be made real. These episodes are not about tools or frameworks. They are reflections on judgement, dignity, and the human cost of change as it is actually lived.In this episode of Inside The Messy Middle, I explore what happens when pause,

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46:03

E103 - The Inner Work Of Communication - Podcast with...

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2026/02/14

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. “The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” That line from George Bernard Shaw captures the heart of today’s conversation.In this episode, I am joined by Dominic Colenso, communication expert, former actor, and author of the bestselling books Impact and Cut Through. Dominic began his career on stage and screen, trained at leading drama institutions,

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8:31

Inside The Messy Middle - When The Story Keeps...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/02/05

Inside the Messy Middle is a special series from The Inner Game of ChangeThis fortnightly short series is for people who carry responsibility inside complexity.Between strategy and delivery. Between intent and impact. Between what was imagined and what must now be made real. These episodes are not about tools or frameworks. They are reflections on judgement, dignity, and the human cost of change as it is actually lived.In this episode, I reflect on what happens when the story of change keeps

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50:36

E102 - Orientation In Uncertainty - Podcast With...

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2026/01/30

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. Some of you may remember Helen Palmer from a past episode of The Inner Game of Change. It was a conversation that stayed with many listeners because of its depth and humanity.Helen helps people learn so something different becomes possible. Her work spans change management, organisational design, learning, and knowledge. And right now, she is living the very thing she speaks about. Returning to

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7:29

Inside The Messy Middle - When You Are Asked To Lead...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/01/21

Inside the Messy Middle is a special series from The Inner Game of ChangeThis fortnightly short series is for people who carry responsibility inside complexity.Between strategy and delivery. Between intent and impact. Between what was imagined and what must now be made real.These episodes are not about tools or frameworks. They are reflections on judgement, dignity, and the human cost of change as it is actually lived.Episode OneWhen you are asked to lead change you did not designChange often

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53:03

E101 - Designing Change In The Service Of Others -...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2026/01/15

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking that shapes how change really happens. And this feels like a perfect way to start 2026. Today I am joined by someone who represents the very best of what technology leadership can be. Lev Gonic is the Enterprise Chief Information Officer at Arizona State University, but that title only hints at who he really is.About six months ago, I had the privilege of meeting Lev in person. It was one of those encounters that stays with you

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6:57

A Change Question - What Do I Want This Change To...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2025/12/26

What Do I Want This Change To Leave With Me?Every change leaves something behind. A lesson. A trace. A quieter understanding of who we are becoming.In this final episode of A Change Question, Ali invites you to pause and reflect on one last question: What do I want this change to leave with me?Drawing on Viktor Frankl, T S Eliot, Maya Angelou, and a closing reading from Rainer Maria Rilke, this episode explores how meaning settles after change, and how we can carry learning forward with care.This is

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11:17

E100 - The Pause

The Inner Game of Change ·

2025/12/17

Today is a little different.To mark Episode one hundred, I decided not to bring in a guest. Instead, I wanted to pause and reflect on the ninety nine conversations that shaped The Inner Game of Change.This episode is a quiet look back at how the podcast began during COVID, how the name was inspired by Tim Gallwey’s Inner Game work, and why Dr Michael Canic’s first yes helped set the tone for everything that followed.Across these episodes, a few ideas kept showing up.I also talk about what happens

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7:28

A Change Question - What Deserves Attention At This...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2025/12/10

Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change. In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can gently shape how we think, work, and move through our lives.As change unfolds, our attention often becomes scattered.We try to notice everything.The risks. The effort. The expectations.But each stage of a change has its own centre of gravity.Something new begins to rise.Something quieter, but more essential, asks for our

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52:46

E99 - A Return to Purpose Through Change - Podcast...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2025/12/06

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking behind the doing of change.Today I sit down with the thoughtful and very grounded Meg Smith, co author of the practical and timely book Microsoft 365 Copilot Adoption. It is a clear and generous guide for leaders and consultants who want to understand what real adoption looks like inside organisations.Meg brings that same clarity into our conversation. We speak about courage, curiosity, learning, and the real experience people are

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7:07

A Change Question - How Do I Know When I Have...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2025/11/26

Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. There are moments in life when a change that once felt right begins to feel small. It has shaped us, stretched us, and carried us for a while. Then, almost quietly, we realise we have moved beyond it.In this short, reflective episode, Ali explores the question: How do I know when I

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44:40

E98 - Thriving In The Human+AI Change - Podcast With...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2025/11/21

Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking behind the doing of change.In this episode, I am joined by Ross Dawson—futurist, keynote speaker, and author of five influential books, including Thriving on Overload and Developing Knowledge-Based Client Relationships. Ross is known globally for his work at the intersection of foresight, networked systems, and human–AI collaboration.We unpack what it really means to lead in a world where AI is no longer just a tool, but a thinking

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7:29

A Change Question - Who AM I Becoming Through This...

The Inner Game of Change ·

2025/11/14

Welcome to A Change Question — a special mini-series from The Inner Game of Change.In each short, solo episode, I bring you one question worth sitting with — the kind that can spark both personal and professional shifts. Who am I becoming through this change?From Pip’s awakening in Great Expectations, to David Bowie’s reinvention, to Maya Angelou’s reminder that becoming is rarely glamorous, this episode looks at how change does not just happen around us — it happens through us.Ali unpacks how our

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