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Desert Rain Zen

Tenney Nathanson

Listen to dharma talks by our teacher Tenney Nathanson Roshi and other teachers in our tradition. Desert Rain Zen is part of The Open Source, a branch of the Pacific Zen School founded by Joan Sutherland Roshi. Our practice centers on an innovative approach to koans and includes group koan conversations as well as individual koan work with Tenney.Desert Rain Zen podcasts are free. If you"d like to support our podcasting and other activities, you can make a tax-deductible donation on our website at

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Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024:...

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2025/09/22

Send us a text Sarah gives the fourth night talk on “Sickness and Medicine.” (check back soon for expanded notes on this episode!) * About us: Desert Rain Zen is located in Tucson, Arizona. But almost all our activities take place on Zoom or as hybrid events, so you don't need to live here to practice with us. Desert Rain Zen podcasts are free. If you'd like to support our podcasting and other activities, you can make a tax-deductible donation on our website at https://www.desertrainzen....

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66:55

Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024:...

Desert Rain Zen ·

2025/09/22

Send us a text Megan gives the third night talk on “Sickness and Medicine,” focusing on sickness and suffering not as mistakes to be “fixed” but as inescapable aspects of our vulnerable lives in the world that deepen and humanize our hearts, making us tender and strengthening our practice, our zen minds. Medicine, likewise, takes multiple forms: often it consists of a widening of perspective, a softening of our views about our illness, a sense that suffering might draw us toward others rather...

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40:57

Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024:...

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2025/09/06

Send us a text Tenney gives the second night talk on “Sickness and Medicine,” discussing the Blue Cliff Record commentary on the case and bringing in a few anecdotes, from both his own practice history and the Open Source community. Hakuin says that if you take the phrase “sickness and medicine cure each other” as itself being medicine, that’s a big mistake (it’s too glib). Sickness isn’t “quelled” so simply, through a formula or an upbeat attitude, one-and-done. If not, what might the koan a...

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24:59

Open Source Retreat, September-October 2024:...

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2025/07/27

Open Source teachers Tenney Nathanson, Sarah Bender, and Megan Rundel each give introductory talks on the first night of our retreat. Our retreat takes its title from Blue Cliff Record Case 87: “Yunmen said to the assembly, ‘Medicine and sickness cure each other. The whole earth is medicine. What is the self?’” (translation by Joan Sutherland and John Tarrant). Sarah Bender Roshi leads Springs Mountain Sangha in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Megan Rundel Sensei leads the Crimson Gate Med...

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49:03

Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The...

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2025/07/22

Tenney and Megan each give talks on the final night of the retreat. Tenney brings in a collection of anecdotes to continue exploring the sustenance available when we allow loss and grief to permeate us and intertwine with the radiance and eternal quality of things that practice helps make palpable. Megan muses on the Prajna Paramita teachings and their grounding in our deep and primal relation to the maternal, evoking the receptive, embodied, and pre-verbal aspects of practice revealed in ges...

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64:25

Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The...

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2025/07/21

Megan gives the third night retreat talk, bringing in several Issa poems that focus on impermanence, loss, and grief, then offering an extended meditation on “the world of dew / is the world of dew / and yet, and yet.” How can we allow ourselves feel this “and yet, and yet” fully, letting our hearts be broken when they are broken and feeling and working through our grief as deeply as we can? What makes it hard to do this, and how can our practice help us enter this difficult terrain and accom...

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Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The...

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2025/07/14

Tenney gives the talk on the second evening of our retreat (the end of our first full day). Taking up three koans from The Blue Cliff Record that all concern the mysterious interweaving of the ephemeral and the eternal, he focuses on our mobile and multiple human responses to this intertwining of what’s poignant, painful, or tragic with a maybe unanticipated sense of radiance, timelessness, and serenity. The Blue Cliff koans: case 82, “Dalong’s Flowers Like Brocade”; case 18, “Hui...

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24:33

Desert Rain Zen Sunrise Retreat, March 2025: "The...

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2025/07/12

Tenney and Megan give introductory talks on the first night of our Spring 2025 Desert Sunrise Retreat, "The World of Dew." Issa's heartbreaking haiku for the death of his young child is a central focus of these opening talks, and of the retreat. Tenney and Megan each begin to explore the intertwining, in our practice, of our deepening awareness of the stillness and silence at the heart of things with the endless rising and falling that are its manifestations. How might "the deep samadhi of th...

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