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Child of Dog

Ben Garson & Stephen Roth

Welcome to a dog’s guide to fatherhood in suburbia. On Child of Dog, Stephen and Ben talk about how they build meaningful relationships, raise open minded children, and navigate their careers in the rapidly-changing world around them. Ben Garson, a respected dog trainer, and Stephen Roth, a holistic therapist who lives on a farm, decided to record the kinds of conversations they have about life — and that other young people raising families might find entertaining and educational.

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54:57

Losing Gravity

Child of Dog ·

2026/01/09

Welcome in 2026 with Ben and Stephen! The boys are back to recap holiday chaos, and decide to try out a small format change, with one of the hosts' presenting a question or topic for discussion each episode. Now responsible for creating their own family's holiday cheer, Ben and Stephen reflect on their childhood experiences of Christmas Day and how that compares to today. Other topics include: Ben's recent concert, the peach and the pit of the most recent holiday season, aversion to

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61:29

Chongqing Chicken

Child of Dog ·

2025/12/02

The band is back together for another episode of Child of Dog! The boys discuss the perfect Thanksgiving leftover sandwich, Vas recounts how his pup Gus has eaten a container of dried Szechuan chili peppers, and Ben proclaims himself as the "King of Analogies," to which Stephen objects. Topics include Turkey day responsibilities, the origin of Vas's rescue dog and his emotional sensitivities, the challenges of fostering animals, appropriate client/practitioner boundaries (kind of), and the

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57:56

Strategic Avoidance

Child of Dog ·

2025/11/11

Welcome back to another episode of Child of Dog! Join Stephen and Ben for a conversation focused on child rearing, including topics such as: the hosts' middle-of-the-road curiosity about "parenting from the past," balancing analog and digital, protection versus exposure, homeschooling, progress, resilience, and how all of these topics inevitably relate to dog training and therapy.

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64:45

Beef Tongue

Child of Dog ·

2025/10/28

After a brief and unplanned hiatus - and without their trusty producer Vas - Stephen and Ben return to the studio for another great episode! The boys recount Ben's birthday celebration in NYC, Stephen's recent and powerful experience with a cadaver dissection training, the hosts' relative experience with death and the question of what lies after, shutting off from grief, covenants with the universe, Jewish mysticism, channeling, and Izakaya beef tongue. An eclectic mix as always! Please

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45:57

Charlie Kirk

Child of Dog ·

2025/09/17

Today’s episode is a shorter, more somber one, focused on the life and death of Charlie Kirk. As young thinkers, fathers, and fellow humans, Stephen and Ben address an incident the incident that has shaken the country, and share honest reflections about hope, optimism, free speech, community, globalism versus localism, mortality, and the future of humanity.

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53:36

Practice Rounds

Child of Dog ·

2025/09/01

Stephen and Ben are back for episode five! The gap was longer than usual, but the conversation doesn't miss a beat. Ben is on the other side of his vasectomy, and Stephen has recently cut his finger and eaten a bad egg. Episode topics include: the ebb and flow of friendships, navigating medical situations with humor, drinking vessels, recreational pharmacology, debate team, "naming the thing," and the importance of value sets.

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87:03

Late Bloomers

Child of Dog ·

2025/07/23

Welcome back for episode four of the COD POD (yes, we're making that nickname happen)! It's our first recording since the official launch of the show, and we're already talking abbreviations, merch, and the manifestation of a large listening audience! On today's episode, Ben and Stephen discuss heavy metal music, Ben's upcoming vasectomy, celebrity deaths and other items in the zeitgeist (as well as the word "zeitgeist"), being late bloomers and turning down offers of HGH as adolescents,

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87:23

Parisian Haircut

Child of Dog ·

2025/07/09

Ben and Stephen are back for episode three! Having just returned from Paris, Ben is sporting a haircut that is trés chic, even though he got it in the States...The show takes off in its usual, organic yet relatively unpredictable manner, covering topics such as: Hebrew school, the hosts' relationship with religion, the future and AI cults, attitudes towards schooling, homework, and college, as well as controlling outcomes, managing reactivity, and the overwhelm caused by Globalism. Listen

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76:07

Hot Coffee

Child of Dog ·

2025/07/09

From black coffee and Christian Slater, to Dave Matthews, the Zodiac Killer, and a discussion on capacity versus will, Ben and Stephen are back for episode two of the newly renamed Child of Dog podcast. Topics include nuance in media, failures of the expert class, groupthink, anti-heroes, boring conversations, the American West, and the difference between traveling with family and traveling with friends.

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80:12

House Shoes

Child of Dog ·

2025/07/09

Welcome to Child of Dog! Or at this point, the Outrider Dogs Podcast. Ben and Stephen start by discussing the show's name (which changes after this episode) and the meaning behind the term "Outrider." The conversation organically flows from there, covering topics from dog training, generational attunements to emotion, parenting and interpersonal lessons from the hosts’ careers, navigating conflict in marriage, and even protective instincts around sharing food!

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