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Passive Income Pilots

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson

Welcome to the Passive Income Pilots Podcast – the show designed to help pilots climb to new levels of financial success. Join Tait Duryea & Ryan Gibson, both airline pilots, business owners and investors, as they interview top experts and share practical knowledge on real estate, tax strategy, passive income and generational wealth. This one-of-a-kind show created specifically for professional pilots offers applicable strategies and tactics for improving your financial life.Whether you"re a

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#147 - From Cap Rates to Cash Flow: Strategic Moves...

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2026/02/17

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down for a special hosts-only episode to break down where they see the biggest opportunities for 2026. From reshoring trends fueling industrial growth to the demographic wave driving senior living demand, they unpack the macro forces shaping real estate right now. They also explain why falling interest rates, reduced new construction, and renewed capital flows are creating a unique window for investors. Plus, they dive into debt funds, tax considerations, and why

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#146 - Aircraft Tax Write-Offs Explained by a Former...

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2026/02/09

Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome former IRS auditor Victoria Boon to cut through the noise around aircraft tax deductions. Learn how bonus depreciation really works, why aircraft are treated differently from real estate, and what the IRS actually looks for during an audit. From Delta bonus taxation to leasebacks, qualified business use, and depreciation recapture, this episode is essential listening for pilots considering aircraft ownership as a tax strategy.Victoria Boon spent 22 years at

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39:18

#145 - Bonus Depreciation & Cost Seg: The Tax...

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2026/02/04

What if the IRS already allows you to write off far more of your real estate, but no one ever showed you how?In today’s episode, Tait Duryae sits down with Gian Pazzia to break down cost segregation in plain English and explain why it remains one of the most powerful tax strategies for real estate investors. Building on last week’s depreciation primer with Hall CPA, this episode covers how cost segregation works, when it makes sense, audit risk myths, and how pilots can apply it to everything from

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#144 - Depreciation, Cost Segs, and the IRS Rules...

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2026/01/27

Tait Duryea is joined by Brandon Hall to break down one of the most misunderstood tools in real estate investing: depreciation. From straight-line depreciation to cost segregation and 100 percent bonus depreciation, this episode explains how so-called “phantom losses” can legally reduce or even eliminate taxable income for pilots and other high earners. They also cover depreciation recapture, common investor mistakes, and why experienced investors think in decades, not tax years.Brandon Hall is the

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#143 - How High Cash Value Life Insurance Works for...

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2026/01/20

Could life insurance be a better cash-flow tool than a savings account?Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Rod Zabriskie from Money Insights Group to break down how high cash value whole life insurance can be used as a powerful cash-flow tool for pilots and investors. They cut through the confusion around “infinite banking” and explain how properly structured policies can improve liquidity, reduce friction when investing, and add meaningful long-term returns. This episode walks through real

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44:05

#142 - Tax Planning for W-2 Pilots Without Complex...

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2026/01/13

Are you paying for a high-powered CPA when your tax situation doesn’t actually require one?In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with CPA Gary Heldt to clarify what smart tax planning really looks like for high-income pilots with relatively simple financial lives. They break down how W-2 earners can optimize taxes without complex businesses, aggressive strategies, or unnecessary fees. Gary explains how often-overlooked fundamentals like benefits planning, estimated taxes, and

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56:21

#141 - How Pilots Can Use Business Structures to...

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2026/01/06

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Toby Mathis to unpack one of the most misunderstood topics for high-income pilots: business structure and taxes. They explain when to use sole proprietorships, LLCs, S-corps, and C-corps, how losses and profits flow to your personal return, and why entity choice impacts audit risk and mortgage eligibility. This episode is a practical roadmap for pilots starting side hustles who want to lower taxes, protect assets, and avoid costly mistakes.Toby Mathis is a

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23:44

#140 - From Goals to Execution: A Year-End Playbook

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2025/12/30

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson close out 2025 by pulling back the curtain on how high performers actually plan, execute, and stay intentional across money, business, and family life. From Spartan’s acquisition pace and Turbine’s investor roadmap to family board meetings, goal frameworks, and habit formation, this episode offers a grounded look at what it takes to build momentum year after year. If you want clarity instead of drift and action instead of resolutions, this conversation sets the tone for a

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47:33

#139 - How to Run Single-Family Rentals Like a REIT...

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2025/12/24

What if managing rentals like an institution is the key to higher returns and less stress?Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson talk with Matthew Whitaker, founder of Evernest, about scaling property management with systems, data, and AI. From HELOC-driven growth to managing 20,000 homes nationwide, this conversation breaks down why professional operations, fraud prevention, and institutional discipline can transform single-family and small multifamily investing for pilots.Matthew Whitaker is the

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52:04

#138 - How to Vet Deals, Operators, and Advisors the...

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2025/12/17

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Mat Sorensen of Directed IRA to tackle one of the most common investor questions: Who do you actually trust when investing in alternative assets? The conversation breaks down how to vet operators, assess risk, understand leverage, and use self-directed retirement accounts responsibly. Mat shares real-world insight from seeing thousands of deals flow through his firm, explains why advisors often avoid alternatives, and outlines practical rules for due

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56:01

#137 - Revocable Vs. Irrevocable Trusts: What Pilots...

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2025/12/09

Clarity and control for the wealth you’re building. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with asset protection expert Adam Kintigh for his third appearance to break down one of the most misunderstood pieces of a pilot’s financial plan: the revocable living trust. Discover how to structure your trust, avoid probate disasters, protect your heirs from creditors, ensure your wealth goes where you intend, and understand the real difference between revocable and irrevocable trusts. If you've ever wondered

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#136 - What HGTV Won’t Tell You About Flipping Houses...

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2025/12/02

Are you using the exit strategies that actually work in this market?Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson talk with seasoned investor and author Leka Devatha to pull back the curtain on what’s real and what’s not in flipping, reality TV, and today’s housing market. Get ready to uncover the truth behind her Amazon Prime episode, learn the creative strategies inside her new book Return on Real Estate, and discover how investors can win even when the market slows. From mid-term rentals to ADUs,

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52:50

#135 - The Truth About Oil and Gas Investing with Tim...

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2025/11/26

Are you unknowingly passing up five-figure tax savings available right now?Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with oil and gas expert Tim Pawul to reveal why minerals, royalties, and non-operated working interests have become one of the most powerful tools for cash flow and tax strategy. Get ready to understand the real reason hydrocarbons aren’t going anywhere, how minerals function like “underground real estate,” and why non-op wells offer significant first-year tax advantages for high-income

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#134 - Fatigue, Flight Deck Safety, and the Science...

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2025/11/18

Sleep becomes exciting, especially when it’s with Dr. Adam Shapiro. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with this board-certified sleep specialist and ATP pilot to uncover what every aviator needs to know to protect their health and their medical. Get ready for practical guidance on staying sharp, staying healthy, and staying in the cockpit longer.Dr. Adam Shapiro is a board-certified sleep medicine specialist, ENT surgeon, senior FAA Aviation Medical Examiner, and ATP-rated pilot. With more than

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52:37

#133 - Year-End Tax Moves Pilots Can’t Miss with Toby...

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2025/11/12

Taxes become more exciting, especially when it’s with Toby Mathis. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back tax strategist and investor Toby Mathis for another powerhouse session on how to keep more of your money before year-end. From bonus depreciation and the short-term rental loophole to smarter charitable giving and donor-advised funds, Toby reveals how high-income earners can legally slash their tax bills. Whether you’re a pilot, business owner, or passive investor, you’ll walk away knowing

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#132 - How to Buy an Airport with Robert DeLaurentis

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2025/11/05

What happens when a real estate investor decides to buy an airport? In this episode, host Tait and Ryan sit down with Robert DeLaurentis, the “Peace Pilot,” to unpack how he transformed a rundown airport into a thriving hub of aviation and community life. Robert shares how his decades in multifamily real estate funded his passion for flying, why legacy matters more than luxury, and how creative business models can make even airports profitable. From flying over both poles to battling bureaucracy,

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#131 - Reading the Economy: Insights from the Bowtie...

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2025/10/29

Where should you put your money right now?Ryan Gibson and Tait Duryea sit down with economist Dr. Elliot Eisenberg to decode the markets, interest rates, and the economic forces shaping your portfolio. From AI layoffs to multifamily real estate, they break down how high-income earners, especially pilots, can build wealth intelligently amid uncertainty. Elliot reveals why the top 10% of earners are keeping the economy afloat, what sectors look undervalued, and which indicators truly predict where

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28:56

#130 - From Wall Street to Real Wealth: Lessons from...

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2025/10/24

What does true diversification look like when you’re building wealth as a pilot?In this episode, Ryan Gibson sits down with his longtime colleague and friend, Ted Greene, to unpack how to define success with your spouse, avoid emotional investing, and create a portfolio that brings peace of mind. From surviving Wall Street lawsuits to building lasting wealth through real estate, Ted shares the hard-earned lessons behind his “NNN Principle”: Never, Never, Never invest by looking in the rearview

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#129 - Ego, Taxes, and the Paycheck Trap: Pilot...

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2025/10/10

Why do so many high-earning pilots struggle to build real wealth?Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson get candid about the habits, mindset, and blind spots that keep aviators from achieving true financial independence. They reveal the five biggest mistakes pilots make, from lifestyle creep and tax traps to ego-driven investing, and how to replace them with smarter, more sustainable wealth strategies. Whether you’re a first officer just starting out or a captain eyeing retirement, this conversation will

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42:51

#128 - Inside the Fine Print: PPMs, Trust, and...

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2025/10/01

What do private placement memorandums really mean for you as an investor?Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with attorney and real estate operator Seth Bradley to pull back the curtain on syndication documents, accreditation rules, and what truly protects investors. Seth shares his personal journey from med school to big law to entrepreneurship, and why his legal background gives him a unique perspective on raising capital and building passive income. Discover why trust in the operator

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