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This Way Up: Unpacking human rights for business

This Way Up: Unpacking human rights for business

This Way Up: Unpacking human rights for business is the first podcast from Business & Human Rights Resource Centre. Over the course of each mini-series, we will outline and interrogate the latest issues related to business and human rights, bringing together diverse expertise from front-line activists, civil society, companies, investors and academia. The aim? To figure out together which way is "up" - the actions we must take to ensure continually improving corporate respect for human

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3:25

2024-25 in review: BHRRC's annual impact report

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2025/09/19

Our Executive Director Phil Bloomer summarises 2024-25 and talks about our impact working with partners and allies around the world, and a vision for the business and human rights movement over the months and years ahead. Image credit: Cyrus Mower.

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1:07

World Benchmarking Alliance at UN Business and Human...

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2024/11/29

More than 60% of companies assessed by the World Benchmarking Alliance are improving their human rights practices, but there’s still a long way to go. Live from #UNForumBHR, Namit Agarwal spells out what he believes companies and governments must do next.

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0:53

Effective implementation of a just transition - UN...

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2024/11/28

“We need more implementation to make sure that what’s already there can help us get somewhere.” A positive perspective from Mutuso Dhliwayo, Executive Director at Zimbabwe Environmental Law Association on the huge difference that effective implementation of pre-existing regulations and frameworks could make towards a just transition.

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1:08

Putting workers at the centre of the just transition...

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2024/11/27

“There is not a just transition if you don’t bring workers into the negotiations from the beginning.” Live from #UNForumBHR 🎧, ITUC Co-Director Diana Junquera tells us why governments and companies must take responsibility and connect with workers in the just transition process.

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2:07

The role of investors and governments in the just...

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2024/11/27

How should investors continue to press their portfolio companies to engage with just transition issues, and what role do governments have to play in a shifting and uncertain future environment? Fascinating insight from Chavi Keeney Nana at the Interfaith Centre on Corporate Responsibility live from #UNForumBHR.

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0:50

Female workers in Bangladesh and the just transition...

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2024/11/27

As female workers in Bangladesh are increasingly uprooted from traditional agricultural work to industrial jobs, worker involvement in how the just transition unfolds will be essential, as Sunzida Sultana from Karmojibi Nari tells us at #UNForumBHR.

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1:38

“Adaptation is such a key part for the Global South,...

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2024/11/18

Fascinating perspective from Kudakwashe Manjonjo at Power Shift Africa at COP29 on how financing green industrialisation won’t just support the world’s action on climate change, but if done properly could also help 1.3 billion people in Africa move out of energy poverty.

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3:38

Live from COP29: “When we talk of finance, we talk of...

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2024/11/15

A must-listen interview from #COP29 with Joan Carling, Executive Director of The Indigenous Peoples Rights International, as she explains why human rights due diligence and centring the rights of Indigenous Peoples must at the centre of any conversation around the just transition.

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1:47

Jennifer Krill on Indigenous rights and transition...

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2024/11/15

Earthworks Executive Director <Jennifer Krill responds to recommendations laid out by the UN Secretary General on respect for Indigenous rights relating to transition minerals, and looks at how this momentum must be supported by the climate movement and UN member states alike as we move towards COP30 in Brazil.

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1:34

For this transition to be just, we have to focus and...

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2024/11/15

Talking live from #COP29 sessions happening today on transitional minerals and mining standards, Indigenous rights advocate Bryan Bixcul from SIRGE Coalition tells us why the words remain the same from global companies, but we are yet to see the necessary actions to back them up.

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1:23

Michel Forst on human rights defenders at COP29

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2024/11/14

In the latest in our series of civil society interviews from #COP29, we spoke with the UN Special Rapporteur on Environmental Defenders Michel Forst on what he’s hearing from human rights defenders who have come under threat from companies operating overseas, and how his mandate can help to protect those defenders.

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1:02

Suneeta Kaimal at COP29 on transition minerals

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2024/11/14

In just a few years, transition minerals have moved firmly into the spotlight, and as we report live from #COP29 - and look ahead to COP30 - Suneeta Kamal, President and CEO of Natural Resources Governance Institute, tells us why this is an exciting inflection point for the conversation.

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1:34

Monitoring the influence of fossil fuel companies at...

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2024/11/13

Who’s attending #COP29 really matters - and tracking the attempted influence of fossil fuel companies on the debate is hugely important for organisations like the Union of Concerned Scientists. Live from Baku on 13 November 2024, we spoke to Climate Accountability Campaign Director Kathy Mulvey about monitoring the fossil fuel industry and how to build capacity among climate science experts.

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1:47

What are the Indigenous movement's aspirations for...

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2024/11/12

“Climate finance can become the next assault for Indigenous Peoples if it is not directly supporting their efforts.” We spoke to Cristina Coc, a Mayan Q'eqchi leader and Advocacy and Policy Coordinator at Indigenous Peoples Rights International at #COP29 to ask her about the aspirations for the Indigenous movement from this latest round of hugely important conversations and negotiations.

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2:10

COP29: why the just transition must be fair in order...

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2024/11/12

LIVE from COP29! 🎧 Hear our Executive Director Phil Bloomer set the scene for this week’s conference in Baku, as he discusses why human rights is an essential precondition for climate action, and why a just transition to clean energy must be a fair one if it is to be fast.

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1: Bridging the human rights gap in ESG investing:...

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2022/10/28

How can we advance the human rights agenda in private equity? Private capital markets have seen enormous growth in recent years, and their largely unregulated, under-scrutinised nature creates conditions for exploitative practices and human rights risks. But private equity funds have significant leverage over portfolio companies, and investors have a unique opportunity to push for better practice and advance respect for human rights. For this special episode from BHRRC and BSR, Áine Clarke is joined

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42:48

S2 Ep6: Cost of Clean Energy: Damming Consequences

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2022/09/27

How much do we need the energy we produce? How can we change our energy systems—from the bottom up—to better serve all sections of society? The global push for the energy transition cannot mean uprooting communities and cutting off water access. We’re joined by Gregory Thomas of the National Heritage Institute and Dr. Noah Kittner from the University of North Carolina for a discussion on examples including the proposed Sambor Dam on Asia’s Mekong River.For full details of the backing tracks and

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36:09

S2 Ep5: Cost of Clean Energy: The Clean Green Machine

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2022/09/14

While hydropower has successfully provided significant amounts of power around the world and played a important role in meeting the intermittency challenge of solar and wind, it is not a purely clean and green source of energy. Dr. Noah Kittner and climate scientist Ilissa Ocko explore the costs of hydropower including loss of food sources for local communities affected by dams, and increased methane emissions from reservoirs. For full details of the backing tracks and soundbites used in this

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S2 Ep4: Cost of Clean Energy: New Frontiers

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2022/09/07

Proposed alternatives to traditional land mining include space mining, deep sea and urban mining. The feasibility of space mining in the near enough future for the energy transition is unlikely, so scientists are giving more attention to deep sea mining. Helen Rosenbaum from the Deep Sea Mining Campaign and Prime Minister of the Cook Islands Mike Brown shed light on social risks and logistical roadblocks to this solution, leaving urban mining as a potential emerging solution. Andy Whitmore from the

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S2 Ep3: Cost of Clean Energy: Channels of Justice

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2022/08/31

This episode explores the capacity for communities to hold companies accountable when their rights are violated by transition mineral mining. Helen Rosenbaum from the Deep Sea Mining Campaign and Manson Gwanyanya, Researcher & Representative for Southern & Anglophone West Africa at the Resource Centre, discuss how examples from the Ok Tedi mine in Papua New Guinea and the Konkola Copper Mine in Zambia prove the devastating environmental and human rights resulting from insufficient access to

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