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The Next Shift Podcast

This is a podcast dedicated to serving current and former law enforcement, by sharing the stories of my own personal transition out of law enforcement, lessons learned through the transition and since, as well as the stories of officers who’ve also transitioned out, their significant others to gain that perspective, and resources for embracing their Next Shift.It is MY mission to help YOU remember who you are/were behind the badge by helping you REdiscover your identity, REdefine your purpose, and

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79:18

From surviving to thriving w/John Kelly

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/10/08

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with my guy, John Kelly (aka The Law Enforcement Life Coach on social media). John is a Marine Corps veteran and a retired LEO. After 30 years on the job, John turned his experience into resources for those following after him. He is now an author, trainer, podcast host, and National keynote speaker. I've been connected with John for a few years now and was on his podcast a couple of years ago. I just finally got to meet him in person at the Wounde...

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Season 4: What to expect

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2025/10/01

Send us a text We are BACK! Thank you so much for being here, I look forward to serving YOU with this new season of the Next Shift Podcast. We have an incredible lineup of guests who have made the transition out of law enforcement, some who've transitioned...then gone back in with fresh perspective, awareness, and purpose...and several clinicians/resources. These stories serve as HOPE for a future outside of law enforcement...something many of us did not know existed. ...

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48:57

Season 3 RECAP

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2025/05/28

Send us a text I CANNOT believe we are wrapping up another season of the Next Shift Podcast! If you had told me in June 2023 that I'd have 3 seasons of a podcast by June 2025...I would not have believed you...but here we are! A HUGE shoutout to all of the incredible guests who have shared their real, raw vulnerable stories on the podcast...giving hope to others, that there is indeed life after law enforcement. This show would NOT be what it is without these guests and without YOU listen...

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An emotional Police Week reflection

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2025/05/21

Send us a text This week's episode is an emotional reflection of my very first Police Week. In case you missed it, I was able to and honored to attend Police Week, as a partner with T-Priority (T-Mobile's First Responder Solution). It was an incredible week talking with survivors, sharing stories, and honoring our fallen...including my husband and I's friend, Cody...who was killed in the line of duty February 29, 2024. Once I got home, I had to take a couple of days to let it all sink i...

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57:50

The story not often told - the transition of a...

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2025/05/07

Send us a text This week's episode is a little different, in that it is not an interview with a retired LEO, but a retired LE civilian employee, who spent over 26 years serving his department and community with pride. Roland Clee spent over 26 years in Law Enforcement, as a Community Services Officer in Florida, is the founder of Command Staff Consulting, and Founder/Author of the American Peace Officer Newsletter. Roland's story is a testament to the importance civilian roles play in t...

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55:55

31 years in LE and the struggle to find a second career

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2025/04/30

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with retired Patrol Captain, Chris Haynes, who served 31 years with the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office. Chris was inspired to become a cop at just 5 or 6 years old, when his uncle would stop by his grandma's house to eat while on duty. After high school, Chris went to college and at just 21 years old, joined the Rutherford County Sheriff's Office. Chris spent time on Patrol, as a Narcotics Investigator, Interdiction Sergeant, promoted to Lieute...

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62:57

"You'll know when it's time to go."

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2025/04/23

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Lou Forst, a retired Lieutenant from Newark PD in New Jersey. Lou discusses being born and raised in New Jersey, then spending his entire policing career at Newark PD, in various units like patrol, Vice, Narcotics, Gang, Sergeant on Patrol, IA, and the academy. From 2010 to 2014, Newark had NO new hires, but from 2014-2019 they hired 485 new officers. Lou was a large part of that hiring craze and at the end of it, his boss told him...

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From LEO to Entrepreneur w/Rob Hollingsworth

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2025/04/16

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Rob Hollingsworth, one of the very first people I sat down with on an Instagram LIVE, to chat about his transition out of Law Enforcement in March 2023. A LOT has happened since that first chat, so we sat down to record an actual podcast episode. Rob is a Navy Veteran and prior LEO turned entrepreneur, who's also a husband and father to three littles. Rob spent a majority of his four years with the Navy deployed overseas and shortl...

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56:32

A near fatal crash & the battle for medical...

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2025/04/09

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with Katie Robert's, a LEOW who received a call no law enforcement spouse wants to receive and has spent the past few years fighting for her husband to not only get the care he deserves after a near fatal crash on duty, but for his disability to be approved. Contrary to what so many think...just because the medical retirement has gone through...the fight is NOT over. This is a video of the crash her husband, Jeremy, was in on his department motorcy...

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If you are SERIOUS about transitioning out of Law...

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2025/04/02

Send us a text In this week's episode, I share 3 things you must have/do if you are serious about transitioning out of law enforcement and they are based on the NUMEROUS conversations I have each week, with people telling me they are looking to transition and want to know what to do. First things first...I can't answer that, ONLY you can...BUT I will have some questions for you to help you gain some clarity. The first two questions I ask almost every single person who reaches out with a gener...

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An unexpected ending: Lessons learned from an Air...

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2025/03/26

Send us a text This week's episode is a chat with John Benjamin Jones. John is a retired Senior Air Marshal and former US Navy combat veteran...as well as the author of A Higher Calling: A biblical guide for first responders, military, and veterans and co-author of the undergraduate textbook, The Fundamentals of Security Management: A Common Sense Approach. John spent almost 30 years in public service and now uses his experiences to be an advocate for first responders and veterans. John...

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28:40

Reflections of a prior LEO: Finding yourself after...

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2025/03/19

Send us a text The reflection every cop needs: Identity, Purpose & What’s Next Turning 40 has a way of making you reflect, and in this episode, I’m taking you through my own journey—19 years in and around law enforcement, losing my career at 10 years in due to injury, and spending two years in a dark place before finally figuring out who I was beyond the job...and still figuring it out! If you’ve ever felt lost, stuck, or unsure of what’s next, this episode is for you. I’ll walk you throu...

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67:17

Embracing the NEW version of yourself in life after LE

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2025/03/12

Send us a text This week's episode is a conversation with Paul Collette, a retired US Probation Officer and Veteran Navy Reservist, who started his career at NYPD and is now an Addiction Recovery Expert. Paul is also a consultant and instructor on sensitive national policy and high risk investigations. Paul shares what it was like to get into NYPD in the early 90s and why he decided to move to to Federal law enforcement, with US Probation. He became a "Sex Offender Specialist" and it ev...

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Next Shift Academy - What you need to know

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2025/03/05

Send us a text This week's episode is a crash course on all things Next Shift Academy. I don't know how I JUST realized I've never broken it down, anywhere other than social media...which may not be seen by more than 10% of my network, EVER...and those on my e-mail list get occasional e-mails about it, so I figured I would break it down here. When I first started doing market research for Next Shift...one of the most common answers to "what would have made the transition easier" a...

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Never forget where you came from...a full circle career

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2025/02/26

Send us a text This week's episode is a reminder to never forget where you come from...you might end up back there...in a NEW way! I loved this chat with Mario Tonzelli, a prior LEO turned Regional VP of Contract Security...who's also a husband and a father. Mario's story is incredible and showcases a full circle career! As a teenager, he worked as a security guard for his current company...then he got into music and eventually fell out of love with it, decided to go the CJ route in col...

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63:40

You GROW through what you GO through, with Travis...

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2025/02/19

Send us a text Just because you are struggling or have struggled, doesn't mean you're a failure or you're weak or something is wrong with you. Struggle is part of life and no matter how much we try to avoid it...it WILL catch up to us at some point. Learning how to not just survive, but to THRIVE in life, even THROUGH struggle, is one of the best gifts you can give yourself. And the BEST news...you do NOT have to do it alone. Whether you chose to find people online...like myself o...

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The transition out of Law Enforcement: A LEOW's...

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2025/02/12

Send us a text Last week was the FIRST ever DEBRIEF event for LEO spouses and it was more amazing than I ever thought it could be. Several wives of either current/former LEOs showed up in support of one another and not only shared their stories, but reassured the others that they are NOT alone. This event reinforced that this job takes a toll on more than just the officer, so I wanted to shake things up a bit and share a perspective not often talked about when it comes to the transition to li...

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101:34

The cost of addiction - 31 years of service...GONE in...

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2025/02/05

Send us a text Addiction does not discriminate. It can take hold of anyone at anytime and this week's episode is proof of that. This week's episode is a chat with Davin Cole, retired LEO from San Fransisco PD, who's career did not end on his terms. Davin suffered an on duty injury, was prescribed opioids for pain, eventually had surgery, functioned at work for years....but off duty, was addicted to the opioids and was drinking on top of his addiction. Davin served for a few years ...

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Using LE skills + networking to land your next role...

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2025/01/29

Send us a textThis week's episode is a chat with Valerie Hartmann, prior Chicago PD turned Threat Investigation Manager for a well known Security Company.What I love about Val's story is that she understood the transition out of law enforcement is a LONG game. Val had enough self-awareness to know that after almost six years of policing in the big city...it was not for her and neither was being stuck on midnights. Instead of getting out of law enforcement all together, she went to a suburb, w...

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46:56

"YOU are the problem, NOT your salary."

The Next Shift Podcast ·

2025/01/22

Send us a textThis week's episode is a conversation with Nick Daugherty, retired LEO turned President/Owner of Financial Cop, LLC. Nick is based in the Dallas/Ft Worth area and worked for the Grand Prairie Police Department, where spent 14.5 years full-time and 6 years part-time. Nick spent time as Patrol, SRO, Patrol Sergeant, Fleet Manager, and Training.As you can see from the title, Nick is someone who calls it like he sees it...mostly because he's been there...chasing a salary and living ...

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