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Degender Dance

Degender Dance with Kate and Lou

Kate and Lou get together to talk about Degendering Dance... and stuff!

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00:31:18

Try It! You’ll Like It! : Learning Both Roles Has...

Degender Dance ·

2026/01/27

In this episode Lou and Kate talk about one of the topics that sparked The Degender Dance Podcast to begin with: why learning to both lead and follow, even a little, makes you a better and safer dancer. We talk about the importance of ELEF, empathy and dismantling the idea that gender = dance role. Let’s get into it!

00:49:37

White Supremacy and Dance Pt 2

Degender Dance ·

2026/01/13

In YT Supremacy and Dance, Part 2, Kate and Lou continue their conversation with Tema Okun’s Characteristics of White Supremacy Culture, moving through the second half of the list and exploring how these patterns show up in partner dance spaces. How do these characteristics surface in teaching and dance community and what are the antidotes? How do they live in our bodies and relationships, and how do they shape learning, connection, and conflict on the dance floor?We explore what it means to dance,

00:17:52

Get in, We're Boycotting Spotify!

Degender Dance ·

2025/12/23

On this week’s episode we talk about the Spotify boycott and why we are participating. ICE recruitment ads aren’t the only reason to stop giving them your hard earned money. We talk about how hard the decision is to divest from such an accessible staple and resource for dance teachers and what other options exist out there that aren’t evil fascists stealing from musicians. Seattle, the birthplace of Degender Dance, is one of the bigger cities that launched this boycott with many local musicians

00:51:27

Creating The Dance Floor You Want To See With Yasmeen...

Degender Dance ·

2025/12/09

Creating the Dance Floor You Want to See with Yasmeen Zahar:This week, we are so excited to share an interview with Seattle-based Latin dancer and teacher, Yasmeen Zahar! We dig into Bachata: its roots, its current politics, and why Sensual and Traditional are not the same dance. She talks about noticing what’s missing in a community and choosing to build something that’s deeply needed, and how she’s doing exactly that with Traditional Bachata in Seattle. Yasmeen brings culture, accessibility, and

00:31:32

White Supremacy and Dance Pt 1

Degender Dance ·

2025/11/25

White supremacy is interwoven into every aspect of our culture in many ways that are easy to name, and other times in patterns so normalized we barely notice them. In this Part 1 episode, we look at how those quieter, less-obvious and normalized dynamics shape our relationships and our dance spaces.We spend time with Tema Okun’s list of characteristics of white supremacy culture: a framework Lou first encountered through Shahem “5hahem” McLaurin’s 2021 Is It White Supremacy? series. Lou shares a bit

00:03:37

We Are Taking a Break!

Degender Dance ·

2025/10/28

In this episode...well, less of an episode and more of an announcement: we’re taking a little time off. One of the core tenets of capitalism and yt supremacy is that you push no matter what. At Degender Dance, we value slowing down, listening to our bodies, and being in flow instead of chasing productivity. Tune in to hear us regale you with our anticapitalist voices until we are back on November 25th, 2025!5, 6, 7, 8!

00:50:59

Disability and Dance

Degender Dance ·

2025/10/14

In this episode, we talk with Hazel Weakly, a deaf transfemme Lindy Hopper and tech whiz with serious groove and even more serious swivels, about what it’s like to move through dance and disability. Hazel shares how she learned to hear the music through feeling and tension, becoming known as a musical switch dancer, and opens up about coming out as trans, plus what a pair of 4-inch heels can do for leads! Lou and I also chat about our own limitations and disabilities: the funny, messy, and sometimes

00:41:08

Why We Love Music

Degender Dance ·

2025/09/23

In this episode, we kick back and shoot the sh*t about the music that made us who we are. From musical theater favorites to top 40 hits, from Jelly Roll Morton to that chest-pounding movie score mega-hit no millennial can go without, we wander through the soundtracks of our lives. Music is both inexplicably personal and a mirror of where we come from — shaped by heritage, cultural waves, and the things we soaked in as kids without even knowing it.As we follow these threads through memory and

00:41:51

Follows are Not Props!

Degender Dance ·

2025/09/09

Hey dancers! This episode is a call to action: follows are not passive passengers, social dancing isn’t a one-way street and toxic masculinity is tiring AF. From the old dance tropes of “dance dummies,” and the idea of “don’t think, just follow,” the dance world has a lot to unpack. Treating follows like props is just the tip of the iceberg—and it fosters the darker, more psychologically and physically unsafe elements of dance spaces for some, especially women. We dig into how follows co-create the

00:36:28

Dancing While Genderqueer

Degender Dance ·

2025/08/26

Hey dancers! In this episode we dive into what it really feels like to social dance as a genderqueer or queer person — the joy, the tension, the resistance, and the magic. We unpack how traditional partner dancing often reinforces binary roles, and what it means to disrupt that system just by showing up in our full, fluid selves. From the awkwardness of being miscast into “leader” or “follower” roles to the liberation of queering the dance floor, we explore how queerness can expand, reimagine, and

00:35:10

Somatics

Degender Dance ·

2025/07/22

Hey dancers! In this episode, we're diving into somatics—what it is, how it differs from traditional dance training, and why it’s such a powerful tool for reconnecting with your body, soul and wider community! We share personal stories from our own therapeutic and somatic journeys, reflecting on how these practices have helped us push back against hustle culture and rediscover a more grounded, sustainable relationship with movement.We also unpack how somatics invites us to move from sensation

00:43:44

We Are White and That Is Problematic

Degender Dance ·

2025/06/10

Hey dancers! Welcome back to The Degender Dance Podcast.In this episode, we’re diving into a big, messy, important conversation: what it means to be white dancers running a dance business centered around African diaspora partner dance forms. Spoiler alert—it’s complicated, and yes, it’s problematic.We’re talking about whiteness, cultural appropriation, accountability, privilege, and what it means to be in integrity with the communities and histories these dances come from.We don’t have all the

00:51:07

Meet Degender Dance

Degender Dance ·

2025/05/28

Hey dancers! Welcome to The Degender Dance Podcast. This whole thing actually started in Lou’s Subaru—after dance class, talking for hours- we figured why not hit record! In this little intro episode, you can get to know your hosts—Kate and Lou. We’re dance buddies who love talking about gender, movement, queerness, dismantling the patriarchy, and all the weird stuff in between. You’ll hear how we met, what we’re into, and probably a few tangents along the way. 5,6,7,8!

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