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No Boxes: Just Verses

No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today"s top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.Each episode is a deep dive into a guest"s personal "Leadership Playlist," uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to

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63:18

Daryl Butler on LA Roots, HBCU and Finance...

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2026/01/19

Is your career a ladder or a jungle gym? How do you transition from reporting the numbers to being the one who drives them? In this episode of No Boxes, Just Verses, we sit down with Daryl "DB" Butler, Vice President of Global Partnerships and Trusted Voices at Google. DB takes us on a masterclass journey through his jungle gym career—starting in finance and accounting before making a bold pivot to sales and marketing that led him to shape culture at iconic brands like Boost Mobile, Nike, Jor...

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67:10

Carrie J. Clark on Detroit Roots and Resilience...

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2026/01/12

How do you keep moving forward when life forces you to grow up at age 11? Can you maintain your integrity when your job conflicts with your values? In this episode of No Boxes, Just Verses, we explore the incredible journey of a leader who turned early personal tragedy into a lifetime of resilience and service. We go beyond the bio to discuss how to lead through loss, the power of divine order in your career, and what it takes to manage global teams during a crisis. Carrie J. Clark is a power...

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64:58

Kelly Frye on Texas Roots, Hollywood Success on...

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2026/01/08

Are you afraid to start over? Do you feel like it’s too late to pursue a creative passion or pivot your career because you didn't start young enough? Whether you are navigating a competitive industry, recovering from a personal setback, or simply feeling the itch to try something new, this episode of No Boxes, Just Verses is your blueprint for resilience. We go beyond the bio to explore how to embrace being a beginner, how to navigate life's sinking canoes and why your 10,000 hours of hard wo...

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62:42

Malinda Williams on Her Evolution from Soul Food’s...

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2026/01/05

Are you feeling stuck in a wilderness season, unsure of your next move, or afraid to pivot? Whether you are navigating a career transition, facing financial uncertainty, or simply trying to rediscover your voice, this episode of No Boxes, Just Verses is the inspiration you need. We go beyond the resume to explore how to turn rock bottom into a launchpad for reinvention. Join us as we explore the incredible journey of a Hollywood icon who taught herself to code during a personal low point and ...

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47:26

Top 10 Leadership Lessons from Season One [Part 2]

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2025/12/29

Are you a high-level manager struggling to make the leap to "unboxed" leadership? Many professionals hit a plateau where they focus solely on vertical status rather than the diverse skills needed for the C-Suite. This common pain point can lead to career stagnation and burnout. In the conclusion of our Season 1 Recap, No Boxes: Just Verses explores the five final pillars of leadership that separate good managers from world-class leaders. This episode addresses how to use your platform for a h...

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39:11

Top 10 Leadership Lessons from Season One [Part 1]

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2025/12/22

Are you feeling stuck on a secure career path that no longer sparks curiosity? Do you feel like you have to wear a mask to be respected in the C-Suite? Many leaders face the grueling pressure of maintaining a perfect image while navigating personal trials or professional stagnation. This episode of No Boxes: Just Verses addresses the specific pain point of boxed-in leadership. In this special Part 1 recap, host Shannon Nash counts down the first five pillars of leadership that defined our deb...

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45:18

The No Boxes Just Verses Countdown: Season 1’s Top 5...

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2025/12/15

As we wrap up an incredible Season One, join us for a special countdown of the Top 5 most-chosen songs that shaped the journeys of our leaders! This episode goes beyond the rankings to explore the common musical threads that connect incredible leaders across business, culture, creativity, and community. We revisit the powerful stories behind the anthems of resilience, joy, strategy, and strength that resonated most deeply with our phenomenal guests. Key Takeaways: Season one has been nothing ...

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60:11

Lisa DeCarlo & Lisa Shalett on Wall Street Careers,...

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2025/12/08

Are you an executive struggling with the isolation of high-level leadership? Have you faced a personal crisis that forced you to re-evaluate your entire career path? In this powerful Authentic and Strategic episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with the two Lisas—Lisa DeCarlo and Lisa Shallet—co-founders of Extraordinary Women on Boards (EWOB). They share deeply personal stories: Lisa D’s health scare that forced vulnerability and Lisa S’s decision to reti...

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51:32

Melonie D. Parker on North Carolina Roots, Hampton...

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2025/12/01

Are you feeling stuck in a predictable career path? Do you struggle to make a strategic lateral move because you're afraid to lose status? In this highly Strategic episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with Melonie Parker, VP of Employee Engagement at Google. Melonie shares her authentic story of navigating a 17-year career at Lockheed Martin through lateral moves and the crucial decision to take a non-promotional role at Google to answer a personal questi...

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71:13

Debbie Allen on Texas Roots, Howard, Fame, A...

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2025/11/24

Are you a creative professional who struggles to gain control behind the camera or above the line? Do you need courage to pivot from performing to directing? In this unforgettable episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with the incomparable cultural icon, Debbie Allen. Debbie shares the courageous, unconventional journey—from facing segregation in Texas to tripling HBCU enrollment with A Different World. Learn her strategy for owning content, leveraging her...

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65:56

Chloé & Maud Arnold on DC Roots, Columbia University,...

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2025/11/17

Do you worry that pursuing a passion like the arts can't lead to stable, global success? Do you need inspiration to keep grinding through the long years of unemployed fun? In this highly Inspirational episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with Chloé and Maud Arnold, powerhouse sister duo and founders of the viral Syncopated Ladies tap dance troupe. Learn their strategies for artistic entrepreneurship, leveraging education as a tool for access, and maintain...

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48:11

Shannon Watts on PR Expert, Intentional Career Pause,...

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2025/11/10

Are you feeling guilty about taking a career pause? Do you wonder if you're too old or too late to make a major professional pivot? In this highly Inspirational episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with Shannon Watts—Founder of Moms Demand Action, Time's 100 Most Influential People, and author of Fired Up. Shannon shares her authentic story of leaving a successful corporate career and taking a deliberate five-year break to focus on family. Known as ...

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49:44

Michelle Banks On California Roots, UCLA, The Golden...

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2025/11/06

Are you feeling stuck on the rigid corporate path? Do you need permission to define success outside of titles, prestige, and compensation? In this powerful episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with legal trailblazer Michelle Banks, former Global General Counsel of Gap, Inc., and executive leadership coach. Michelle shares her "unboxed" strategy for taking smart risks, building a career defined by cultural competency, and transitioning from the 24/7 demand...

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61:54

Desirée Rogers on New Orleans Roots, Harvard MBA,...

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2025/11/03

Do you feel pigeonholed in your career? Do you struggle to see how your diverse experiences across corporate, government, and non-profit sectors connect? In this inspiring episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles with Desirée Rogers—renowned strategist, connector, and co-owner/CEO of Black Opal and Fashion Fair. Desirée shares her "unboxed" playbook for strategic career pivots, revealing how lessons learned from managing utilities and insurance giants prepare...

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37:26

David Chun on Korean and New Jersey Roots, Investment...

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2025/10/30

Do you feel defined by a major career setback? Are you questioning your path after a pivotal layoff or a venture that didn't take off? In this powerful episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we go beyond the bios, beyond the titles to explore the unconventional leadership journey of Equilar Founder and CEO, David Chun. David shares the intimate story of weathering both a major early-career layoff and the devastating dot-com crash just as he started his company. David Chun is the Founder and ...

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43:40

Ravi Kumar on Humble Beginnings and the Discipline of...

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2025/10/27

In this dynamic crossover event on No Boxes: Just Verses, we're joined by finance expert, CPA, and podcast host, Ravi Kumar. Are you a leader trying to pivot your career, find passion outside of public accounting, or build a powerful global network? Ravi's journey is a powerful testament to immigrant grit, relentless perseverance, and why you should "Don't Stop Believin'" in your potential. Tune in for the playbook on transforming the perception of accounting from boring to brilliant. Ravi Ku...

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67:56

Felicia and Mica Mayo on Sisterhood, Family, and...

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2025/10/23

In this dynamic Verses in Service episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we're joined by sisters-in-law, sorority sisters, and business partners, Felicia Mayo and Mica Mayo. Are you a leader trying to align personal values with wealth creation, navigate a major corporate pivot, or figure out how to fund the next generation of founders? Felicia and Mica's journey is a powerful testament to work-life integration, the strategic value of authenticity, and their mission to "lift as they climb" through ...

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42:23

Debbie Taylor Moore on Cybersecurity, Quantum...

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2025/10/20

In this critical Verses in Service episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we sit down with cybersecurity pioneer and quantum expert, Debbie Taylor Moore. Are you a leader trying to manage the security risks of the future, balance a demanding career with family life, or looking to overcome the fear of unconventional pivots? Debbie’s story is a powerful testament to the value of unconditional support, perseverance, and why the next digital threat is far more complex than anything we’ve seen before. ...

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34:12

Kelly Richmond Pope on Fool Me Once, All the Queen’s...

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2025/10/18

In this empowering Verses in Service episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we sit down with Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope, CPA, documentary filmmaker, and fraud expert. Are you a leader trying to understand risk management, curious about how fraud works, or looking for the blueprint to scale your research into a globally consumable business? Dr. Pope's journey is a powerful testament to resilience, the art of turning academic passion into a public service, and why true crime is the perfect lens for tea...

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30:17

Panya Lei Yarber-King on a Journey Rooted in Reading,...

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2025/10/16

In this incredibly insightful episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we sit down with technology executive and operator, Panya Lei Yarber-King. Are you a leader trying to manage high-pressure situations, advocate for your worth, or find a deeper connection between your faith and your career? Panya’s journey is a powerful testament to resilience, the strength of faith and independence, and the mindset that you should "keep on moving" despite any obstacle. Tune in for the blueprint on mastering digi...

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