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K9 Detection Collaborative

Stacy Barnett, Robin Greubel

Candid conversations about the reality of training, deploying, or competing with a canine partner. Each episode is a cross pollination from the professional and sport canine camps, exploring how we all want the same thing: A great relationship with our dog.With humor, and a big dose of theory, we talk practical training advice and includes interviews with top trainers and scientists. We keep it fun, honest, and rated PG 13ish.

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45:54

Chickens are the Great Equalizer: Chicken Workshop...

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2026/04/07

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, welcome Bob Deeds back to debrief the first-ever chicken workshop hosted at Robin's farm.Bob, drawing on the legacy of Keller and Marian Breland and Bob Bailey, the operant conditioning pioneers behind Animal Behavior Enterprises and the IQ Zoo, explains that the chicken workshop isn't really about chickens at all!White Leghorns, selected for their speed and reactivity, are a crucible for the trainer, forcing observational

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43:13

Using Engagement, Relationship, and Arousal to Combat...

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2026/03/24

What to listen for:"Unless you have a dog who is engaged with you, you can't build that relationship. And you can't get through distractions. It's impossible.”Today, our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, are talking relationships. Specifically, what it actually means to have one with your dog when the pressure is on. They argue that a real relationship isn't Kumbaya, it's the thing that keeps a dog still on a medic's table and calm on a tailgate in

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47:14

Beyond the Buzzword: Deconstructing Opt-In/Opt-Out in...

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2026/03/10

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, break down why "opting out" has become a buzzword that may obscure more than it reveals. While the term sounds empowering (giving dogs agency and choice), they argue it can become a self-congratulatory label that prevents handlers from addressing underlying training gaps.Stacy shares the story of 15-year-old Ray, who "opted out" of FEMA disaster work but later excelled at narcotics detection on a short lead. Ray

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49:01

Dr. Jenny Essler: Goby Fish and Spotted Lantern Fly...

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2026/02/24

What to listen for:In the second half of the conversation with Dr. Jennifer Essler, our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, discuss her current research and future goals bridging academic science with real-world handler expertise!At SUNY Cobleskill, Dr. Essler's conservation work demonstrates how detection dogs fill practical niches. Her Round Goby project (tracking invasive fish from the Black and Caspian Seas) uses dogs for water sampling rather than locating individual fish.This mirrors

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53:05

Dr. Jenny Essler: Talking Monkeys, Dogs, and Wolves...

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2026/02/10

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, sit down with canine cognition researcher Dr. Jennifer Essler. She unpacks her journey from coding Capuchin monkey videos in a windowless lab to studying fairness in wolves and dogs.Starting with music studies before discovering comparative psychology, Essler's academic trajectory took her from Georgia State's primate labs to hand-raised wolf packs in Vienna's Wolf Science Center.It’s a unique research environment that

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48:28

What Sport and Professional Detection Teams Can Learn...

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2026/01/27

What to listen for:“Trust your dog, but trust your training first.”Our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, welcome back veteran USAR handler Bob Deeds to talk about the artificial divide between working dog and sport detection communities, and why both sides desperately need each other!Bob shares his journey from FEMA disaster work into nose work, leading into his innovative "geo-scenting" protocol. This hybrid sport combines geocaching with scent detection using clove oil,

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41:50

Ferrari's, 4 Runners, and Ford Raptors: Talking...

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2026/01/13

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, explore how drive, motivation, arousal, and focus work together as an integrated system—rather than isolated traits—to create elite performance.Using a car engine metaphor, Robin explains drive as the engine size or “genetic horsepower” a dog is born with. It’s fixed hardware that defines inherent desire for the work. Motivation is the fuel, built through reinforcement history. Even the biggest engine won’t run without gas, and Stacy

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9:31

Announcements for 2026 Distraction Camp and...

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2025/12/30

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, announce the opening of signups for the 2026 Distraction Camp and Intentional Handling and Hide Setting. Signups begin on January 4 at noon Central Standard Time. Christi Raak, who has been on the podcast, will lead the Distraction Camp, focusing on engagement, focus, arousal, and mobility. Lily Strassberg, currently in Israel, has given a tentative yes to co-teach Intentional Handling and Hide Setting. Both camps are expected to sell

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60:08

Bob Deeds: FEMA K9's, Nosework, and Chicken Workshops

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2025/12/16

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, welcome veteran USAR handler Bob Deeds, whose journey from compulsion-based training to positive reinforcement transformed both his career and the field itself!His career trajectory spans volunteer search and rescue in the early nineties through Texas Task Force One, where he deployed to the World Trade Center with his partner, Kenzie.The devastating loss of Kenzie in a 2007 training accident nearly ended his career until his friend

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45:09

Chocolate Cake, Green Eggs, and Ham: Analogies in...

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2025/12/02

What to listen for:Our hosts Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett explore generalization as the foundation of reliable detection work.Together, they reveal generalization as extending far beyond simple obedience across locations. It encompasses odor variability, environmental context, behavioral chains, and handler presentation.They explain how explosive and narcotic sources vary like chocolate-cake recipes: different manufacturers, cutting agents, and absorption materials create distinct odor

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34:40

Doing the Thing that Scares You

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2025/11/18

What to listen for:“[Being a part of] this podcast terrified me. Putting myself out there was so vulnerable, and I felt like it was such a big risk for you guys, as well. I’m so thankful. I’m glad you made me, but I’m also going to say I’m glad that I did it because in the end, I had the final say in buying the microphone and the headset.”After 151 episodes, Crystal Wing says goodbye (or rather, seeya later) to the K9 Detection Collaborative family, and lets us know the exciting things she has in

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54:38

Thoughts on Manipulating Odor Availability

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2025/11/04

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, break down how time, airflow, and placement reshape detection dog work!They kick things off by describing a week of hides left up to 96 hours, the longest-out scenario that reveals how odor pools migrate and change. Drawing from this experience, our hosts brainstorm creative ways to design hides that can better help your dog read scents.Central is the concept of "odor availability", which explains why surface

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50:04

Talking Detection with Steve White Pt. 2

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2025/10/21

What to listen for:“Search and rescue work is the volunteer profession that you pay to do and is one of the most stressful things you can ever do, because somebody else's life could depend on what you're doing.”In part 2 of their conversation with Steve White, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett ask about the development of Hydrated Intensive Tracking (HIT), which evolved from experiments with scent-in-a-bottle methods.Steve’s breakthrough came at a U.S. Police Canine Association seminar when

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53:04

Talking Detection with Steve White Pt. 1

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2025/10/07

What to listen for:Two-thirds of The Dames of Detection, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, welcome Steve White, a veteran law enforcement K9 trainer whose 46-year career began in military working dog handling in 1975.Steve discusses the challenges facing modern police canine programs, particularly how vendor-driven training models often prioritize efficiency over optimization, which creates sessions where handlers log hours without meaningful individual development.Central to Steve's philosophy

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50:57

Working in K9 With Kate Graham from Katalyst Kennels

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2025/09/23

What to listen for:"Get a dog, take the dog you have, start training, do it yourself. Yes, the client dogs will come, the other pieces will come, but get yourself out there."2/3 of our hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett, sit down with Katelyn Graham from Katalyst Kennels, who shares her expertise in breeding and training Labrador Retrievers for detection tasks while managing a multifaceted kennel operation!Katelyn’s going deep into producing what she calls “green dogs”: canine

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45:29

Choosing to Reinforce Pieces and Parts

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2025/09/09

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, dive deep into a counterintuitive training philosophy sparked by their recent interview with Petra Ford: sometimes accepting imperfection creates better performance in complex behavior chains.The conversation began with Petra's story about reinforcing her dog even when she knew it wasn't sitting perfectly square. When working on complex detection behaviors, trying to perfect every element simultaneously can

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52:52

Download from Intentional Handling and Hide Setting 2025

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2025/08/26

What to listen for:Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, do a deep dive into their recent Intentional Handling and Hide Setting camp where, during a sweltering week in Iowa, seventeen detection dog teams discovered how unconscious body positioning can make or break a search!The breakthrough moment came on Thursday during an outdoor search. A handler, diligently following instructions to avoid "going full frontal" on hides, had positioned herself away from the actual

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53:30

Distraction Camp 2025 Download

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2025/08/12

What to listen for:“We’re always inspired by the students and all the hard work that goes on. It blows my mind every single year.”Today, our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, reflect on their recent experience at Distraction Camp 2025, where handlers and dogs from across the country gathered on Robin's Iowa farm to build deeper relationships through the chaos of real-world distractions.This year's breakthrough came from an unexpected source: cats. The rallying cry “I

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54:22

Talking Training with Petra Ford Pt. 2

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2025/07/29

What to listen for:“I don’t just pet them, I go, ‘this is why you train the way you train, remember that’”Today, two-thirds of the Dames of Detection, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing, welcome back obedience trainer Petra Ford to talk about why she believes in a “you do you” approach to dog training.When her dog Zesty dropped eye contact during their first championship run, instead of demanding compliance, Petra simply said, "You do you,” acknowledging that forcing the moment would only add

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61:18

Talking Training with Petra Ford Pt. 1

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2025/07/15

What to listen for:"I care about my dog's emotional state, how they're feeling, and how confident they are. And I work on that a lot."Two-thirds of the Dames of Detection, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing, sit down with obedience trainer Petra Ford, who unpacks the importance of seeing dogs as individuals, not assumptions!Real progress, she says, starts when you stop correcting and start connecting.Petra shares how letting go of labels like “nervous” transformed her relationship

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