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Third Due First In

The fire service is changing fast — we’re here to talk about it. Third Due First In is the podcast where frontline firefighters, chiefs, and public safety leaders break down the calls, the culture, and the challenges that come with keeping our communities safe. Expect stories, strong opinions, and the kind of straight talk you’d hear around the firehouse bay table.

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Ep 19: Clairton Works Explosion & The 1999 K-Mart Fire

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2025/11/06

Keith and Geno open with the recent explosion at U.S. Steel’s Clairton Works that claimed two lives and injured several others. Guest Rob Lisiecki from Clairton Works Emergency Services shares what it was like on scene and explains how their emergency department operates inside one of the region’s largest industrial sites.Then the crew looks back at the 1999 K-Mart Fire in Pleasant Hills—a day none of them will forget. Chief Dan Haeck, Captain Scott Kunz, and Geno Esken were on the first-in engine,

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00:58:33

Ep 18 – Chief Scott Garing: Fire Department Mergers...

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2025/10/30

In Episode 18, Chief Scott Garing joins the show to talk about the merger between the Harmony and Zelienople Fire Departments and what it takes to bring two volunteer companies together under one name. We also discuss leadership, department culture, and how collaboration can strengthen the fire service as a whole.Listen now and stay connected with the Third Due First In Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, and iHeart Radio.

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01:13:43

Ep 17 – The State of Pennsylvania’s Volunteer Fire...

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2025/10/23

In this episode, Keith and Geno sit down with Pennsylvania State Fire Commissioner Thomas Cook to discuss the current state of the volunteer fire service. They cover training challenges, statewide recruitment and retention efforts, funding updates, and how the Commonwealth is addressing the growing need for staffing support across departments. Commissioner Cook also shares insights from his decades of service—from his early years as a firefighter to leading the state’s fire programs.Plus, stick

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00:47:57

Ep 16 – Chief Mark Grimm: Building a Strong...

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2025/10/16

This week we’re joined by North Strabane Fire Chief Mark Grimm, who shares his experience leading the transformation of an all-volunteer fire company into one of Western Pennsylvania’s most respected combination departments. Chief Grimm discusses staffing, leadership, culture, and the importance of firefighter health and fitness in today’s fire service.Plus, we cover regional fire news and updates from across the area.

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01:18:56

Ep 15 – Healing Through Horses & Fighting the Hidden...

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2025/10/10

In Episode 15 of Third Due First In, we sit down with Amber from Bella Terra Stables to talk about their therapy horse program and how equine-assisted healing is helping first responders, veterans, and families find balance and peace through the power of horses.Then we’re joined once again by Chief Deputy Fire Marshal Don “DB” Brucker, who continues our important discussion on firefighter cancer prevention and dives into the growing threat of lithium battery fires in today’s fire service.We also hit

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01:19:36

Ep 14 – Therapy Dogs & Firefighter PTSI with Chief...

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2025/10/02

in Episode 14 of Third Due First In, we start with Mariah Murphy, who shares the story of her therapy dog Buddy and how programs like hers bring comfort to people during their most difficult times.Then we sit down with Allegheny County Chief Deputy Fire Marshal Don Brucker for an in-depth discussion on PTSI in the fire service. We cover the challenges first responders face, the importance of mental health resources, and the role of the National Firefighter Cancer Registry in protecting firefighter

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01:09:44

Ep 13 – Firehouse Law: Paid Crews, Stipends, and the...

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2025/09/25

In Episode 13 of Third Due First In, Keith and Geno sit down with Attorney Kim Houser—Assistant Chief in Greensburg, PA, rescue specialist with PA-HART and Region 13 Strike Team, Pro-Board Fire Officer I-IV, and senior partner at Mears, Smith, Houser & Boyle, P.C. Kim brings his extensive experience representing over 200 fire departments to unpack the legal side of firehouse operations.We dive into the growing trend of volunteer departments hiring shift crews, stipend programs. Kim also shares

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00:39:14

Ep 12 – Trench Rescue Success with Chief Robert...

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2025/09/18

In this episode of Third Due First In, Keith is joined by co-host Dan Haeck as they welcome Charleroi Fire Chief Robert Whiten Jr., Captain Matt Prentice, and Captain/Paramedic Kerry McCorkle Jr. to discuss a recent successful trench rescue. The crew walks us through the challenges, tactics, and teamwork that made the operation a success.Plus, Keith and Dan cover recent fire news, honor the sacrifices of firefighters across the country, and share important info on the National Firefighter Cancer

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00:41:41

Ep 11 | Remembering 9/11, Fire Service Stories &...

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2025/09/11

Episode 11 of Third Due First In, we open with Geno’s Raised by Giants segment — proudly sponsored by FireCam (firecam.com). From there, we reflect on the events of September 11th, honoring those lost and sharing personal experiences from that day. Dan then takes us into a powerful discussion on notable plane crashes throughout his life, leading into Flight 93.We also cover the latest fire service news, updates, and preview what’s ahead for the podcast — including upcoming guests like Capt. Matt

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01:05:28

Ep 10 – Chief Dillon Coleman on Live-In Programs,...

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2025/09/04

In Episode 10 of Third Due First In, we sit down with Chief Dillon Coleman to talk about the benefits of live-in programs, laying line under pressure, and how these programs help shape the next generation of firefighters. Deputy Chief Geno shares a training moment, and we hit the latest news from around the fire service.This episode is brought to you with support from FireCam.com — makers of helmet cams and fireground video solutions built for firefighters.We’re also proud to support the fire

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00:53:43

Ep 9 – Generational Firefighters & Lessons in Mayday

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2025/08/29

In this episode of Third Due First In, we sit down with Steven Marsh from Station 235 Logan’s Ferry Heights in Plum Borough to discuss their new stipend program and its impact on the department. Geno leads a “training moment” on mayday procedures and why following them to the letter can make all the difference. We also feature helmet cam footage from Sullivan Esken, followed by an in-studio discussion with Sully on carrying forward the fire service tradition across three generations of his family

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01:22:14

The Future of Fire Service in Allegheny County |...

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2025/08/21

In this episode of Third Due First In, we dive into the challenges facing the fire service in Allegheny County and what steps can be taken to move forward.Special Guest: Allegheny County Council President Pat Catena, discussing his recent meetings with local fire companies and what county government can do to help.Co-Host: Chief Dan Haeck, sharing his thoughts on a way forward for the fire service and reflecting on how the 70s, 80s, and 90s compare to today.Sponsored by FireCam – don’t miss details

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01:04:21

Ep 7 – County Meetings, Volunteer Service Challenges...

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2025/08/17

In Episode 7 of Third Due First In, we kick things off with McKeesport FF Sean Sokolowski sharing highlights about the Jimmy Ellis Training Weekend. Our main guest, Chief James Rush, joins us to break down recent county meetings focused on how to better support local fire departments. Chief Dan Haeck weighs in on the current state of the volunteer fire service and discusses the book Behind the Badge. We also review intense helmet cam footage from a McKeesport house fire with multiple rescues, cover

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