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Sources & Methods

National security, unlocked. Each Thursday, host Mary Louise Kelly and a team of NPR correspondents discuss the biggest national security news of the week. With decades of reporting from battlefields and the halls of power, they bring you inside the Pentagon, State Department, and intelligence community to help you understand America"s shifting role in the world, and how events in faraway places matter here at home. Additional episodes feature interviews with power players from the NatSec world --

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27:40

Iran’s fight for survival / The widening war /...

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2026/03/05

The U.S.-Israeli war with Iran is spilling out across the region. What are the goals? And how does it end?Host Mary Louise Kelly talks with International Correspondent Aya Batrawy, based in Dubai, and Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman, about the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran. Six days of war have turned the middle east upside down, and it's still not clear how the U.S. will determine when its objectives have been accomplished.Recommended Iran reading:Blackwave by Kim GhattasAll the Shah’s Men by

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11:18

Iran's supreme leader is killed. What happens now?

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2026/02/28

President Trump says Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is dead. This comes after Israel and the United States launched missile attacks across Iran targeting the country's top leadership. Iran responded with missile and drone strikes in several countries in the Gulf region.Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with NPR national security correspondent Greg Myre and NPR international correspondent Daniel Estrin about what this means for the Iranian regime and what might come next.Email the show

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25:11

U.S. and Israel strike Iran. Here's what we know

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2026/02/28

Overnight, the United States and Israel launched military strikes against Iran.The strikes targeted Iran’s top leaders, Supreme Leader Khamanei and President Masoud Pezeshkian — trying to kill them, according to a person briefed on Israel’s operation who spoke to NPR. Iran has responded by lobbing missiles at Israel and other countries in the region that host U.S. troops.Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with Greg Myre, NPR national security correspondent, and Daniel Estrin, NPR international

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30:07

Drone warfare / Iran on the brink? / Ukraine four...

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2026/02/26

The seas of the Middle East are bristling with American warships and airpower trained on Iran. What does President Trump have in mind for them?Host Mary Louise Kelly talks with National Security Correspondent Greg Myre and Pentagon Correspondent Tom Bowman about Trump's aims in nuclear negotiations with Iran and the risks of military action.And four years after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a look at the many obstacles to peace and how Ukraine has pioneered a scrappy, improvised way of

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26:56

China: Purging generals and testing nukes? / Trump,...

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2026/02/19

Did China conduct secret nuclear tests? The United States thinks so. Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with NPR Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman and NPR China correspondent Jennifer Pak about China's nuclear arsenal and U.S. claims of an illicit Chinese nuclear test conducted in 2020. They also check in on other national security topics swirling this week: Board of Peace inaugural meeting, Iran and Ukraine.Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor

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25:35

Europe's post-Munich exhale / Machado on gifting...

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2026/02/17

If you heard our show last week you know we were at the Munich Security Conference – a gathering in Germany where world leaders, security experts and defense officials meet yearly to take the temperature of the global order.This is a special follow-up episode to share some of what we learned there. Host Mary Louise Kelly spoke with Michael Froman, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, after Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s keynote address. She also hosted a conversation with María Corina

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27:00

View from Munich / Europe’s far-right / DNI in Georgia

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2026/02/12

“The world has entered a period of wrecking-ball politics,” begins the Munich Security Report, released as the world’s security establishment gathers in Germany.Host Mary Louise Kelly is on the ground at the Munich Security Conference, as is Berlin Correspondent Rob Schmitz. Together with National Security Correspondent Greg Myre, they check in on Europe’s effort to bolster its own defenses, as the U.S. pulls back. Rob explains Germany’s right-wing populist AfD party’s political ascendence and its

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27:11

'Persons of no interest:' embassy wives become spies...

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2026/02/10

Two American women -- living in Cold War-era Moscow, with husbands in the CIA -- suddenly become undercover agents themselves. That's the set-up for PONIES, a new spy thriller now available on Peacock. Mary Louise Kelly speaks with star Haley Lu Richardson and showrunner David Iserson about the show, the research behind it, and what makes a good spy. Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign

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28:02

Can Iran negotiate its way out of a U.S. attack?

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2026/02/05

President Trump says he’ll act against Iran “with speed and violence,” if he doesn’t get a deal to rein in Iran’s nuclear program.Host Mary Louise Kelly talks with National Security Corresponent Greg Myre and Science and Security Correspondent Geoff Brumfiel about how, after a month of turmoil, the US and Iran seem to have arrived at talks over Tehran's nuclear capabilities. And they'll unpack how much more dangerous the world is after the expiration of the last U.S.-Russia nuclear weapons

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38:46

Is the “president of peace” preparing for war?

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2026/01/29

Last week, President Trump was announcing a Board of Peace for Gaza. This week, he’s threatening war against Iran.Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with NPR’s national security correspondent Greg Myre and NPR’s Tel Aviv-based correspondent Daniel Estrin about war, peace and the Middle East.Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign up at plus.npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices:

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30:46

Do we know what’s happening with Greenland?

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2026/01/22

For weeks, President Trump has made plain he wants the United States to own the Arctic island. Then on Wednesday, he appeared to back down, and announced a “framework” of a deal. Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with reporter Willem Marx in Davos and NPR Pentagon Correspondent Tom Bowman about the deal and how this could signal a new world order.Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign up

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28:18

Iran in crisis. Trump weighing military action....

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2026/01/15

It’s day 19 of turmoil in Iran. President Trump continues to weigh military action against the regime.Host Sacha Pfeiffer speaks with NPR national security correspondents Greg Myre and Quil Lawrence about Iran, oil and Trump’s pick to lead the U.S. Southern Command. Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign up at plus.npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices:

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25:03

What’s happening with the U.S. and Venezuela?

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2026/01/08

One week ago, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro was leadingthe country. Now, he’s sitting inside a detention center in Brooklyn. Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with NPR international correspondent Carrie Kahn in Bogotá about what she’s hearing from Venezuelans, and NPR Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman about the Trump administration’s plans for the country. Bowman also shares his reporting that the Pentagon will review the role of women in ground combat units. Email the show

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20:14

Venezuela leader captured. Trump says U.S. to 'run'...

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2026/01/04

After months of threats, warnings and seizing of alleged drug boats – tensions between the United States and Venezuela have now come to this: the arrest of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro.Now, President Trump says the United States is “running the country.” In this special episode of Sources & Methods, host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with national security correspondent Greg Myre, Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman, international correspondent Carrie Kahn and Rep. Adam Smith about the latest from

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29:01

Undercover for the holidays: Some of our favorite spy...

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2025/12/29

What's more thrilling than a great... thriller? As national security buffs, we have thoughts.Host Mary Louise Kelly chats with national security correspondent Greg Myre and books and culture reporter Andrew Limbong about some of their favorite books and authors in the world of espionage fiction.Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign up at plus.npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message

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25:55

From CIA Officer to Governor: Abigail Spanberger on...

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2025/12/22

Virginia governor-elect Abigail Spanberger will be the first woman and the first former CIA officer to lead the commonwealth.Host Mary Louise Kelly talks to Spanberger about her unconventional career path that took her from Langley to D.C. and now to Richmond, and how some of her skills from gathering intelligence come in handy in politics. Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign up

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28:19

Is ISIS making a comeback?

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2025/12/18

The terrorist group has been linked to the mass shooting in Australia and a deadly attack in Syria. What do these two attacks reveal about the group's strength?Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman and Middle East correspondent Jane Arraf about how the Islamic State has adapted in a post-caliphate world and what American forces are doing in Syria.Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to

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28:16

Is Trump breaking up with Europe?

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2025/12/11

In recent days, President Trump has called European leaders “weak," Biden-era aid to Ukraine “stupid" and Russia “strong.” It’s a radical shift in how the United States views its closest ally. Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with national security correspondent Greg Myre and Paris correspondent Eleanor Beardsley about where the transatlantic alliance goes from here.Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete

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25:28

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is in hot water – again

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2025/12/04

Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth was already facing questions for his role in the September 2 strikes on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean. Then on Thursday, a Pentagon report dropped that says he risked a United States bombing mission in Yemen when he shared classified plans on Signal. Host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman and national security correspondent Quil Lawrence about the controversies Hegseth keeps finding himself in. Email the show

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14:39

MAGA and 'The Mission' of the intelligence community

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2025/11/24

Ideology is the enemy of intelligence, says Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Tim Weiner. His recent book, a history of the modern CIA, is called The Mission: The CIA in the 21st Century. A version of this interview previously aired on NPR's All Things Considered.We're off the rest of the week and back with a regular Thursday episode on December 4. Email the show at sourcesandmethods@npr.orgNPR+ supporters hear every episode without sponsor messages and unlock access to our complete archive. Sign

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