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The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life.

Dennis Williams, Josh Mora

The Back 9 is a podcast hosted by Dennis Williams and Josh Mora, targeting individuals in or approaching mid-life who seek more fulfillment in various aspects of their lives. The hosts discuss topics such as starting over in careers or dating, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness, openness to change, and learning from experiences. The podcast aims to create a safe space for introspection, covering challenges like living alone, dating fears, and making mistakes. They invite guests, including

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28:06

TB9, S11 — 19th Hole: When The Back 9 Starts To Feel...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2026/03/17

Have you noticed the moment when the Back 9 of life stops being a metaphor and starts feeling real? As Season 11 of The Back 9 wraps, we reflect on the shifts that come with midlife. Our daughters are grown. Our health and longevity feel personal. Time carries more weight. This season we explored fatherhood, friendship, identity, reinvention, and building the next chapter. In this 19th Hole, we turn the conversation inward. We talk about mortality, letting go of roles that no longer fit, and the

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45:33

TB9, S11, E18: Baby Joe Mesi — Life After the Fight

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2026/03/10

What happens when the dream ends before you're ready? Heavyweight contender Joe Mesi once carried the pride of his hometown on his back. They packed arenas, he had the Olympics within reach, and the path seemed clear—until a brain injury ended his boxing career overnight. Joe joins us to talk about the identity crisis that can follow when athletes lose the one thing they were built to do. We explore life after sports, rebuilding purpose after career loss, and how reinvention often begins in the

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42:40

TB9, S11, E17: Vince Cellini — Fatherhood & Playing...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2026/03/03

40 years of marriage. Three sons raised into men. This is the long game of fatherhood. Veteran sportscaster Vince Cellini joins The Back 9 for a steady, practical conversation about healthy masculinity in fatherhood, long-term marriage and evolving identity in midlife. We talk about raising sons into capable men, balancing career ambition with presence at home, and staying consistent when work never really turns off. Vince shares how his blue-collar roots shaped his leadership as a husband and

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32:52

TB9, S11, E16: Kee Kee Buckley — The Road to Shama...

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2026/02/24

What happens when you achieve the life you planned… and realize you're still not happy? Kee Kee Buckley had the Hollywood executive title, the resume, the access, but she felt she had lost her identity. When she got laid off she packed her Prius, grabbed her rescue dog Yoda, and drove across the country searching for Shama — the Sanskrit word for inner peace. On this episode of The Back 9, we talk with Kee Kee about identity loss, career pivots, spiritual awakening, and the courage to leave a life

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38:08

TB9, S11, E15: Jim Brock, Jr. — The Rarity and Power...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2026/02/17

Men need strong friendships. Few of us are lucky enough to keep them for decades. On this episode of The Back 9, we sit down with Jim Brock Jr. — a 30+ year friend — to talk about the rare power of long-term adult male friendship and what it takes to stay connected through the peaks and valleys of life. What makes a friendship survive decades? What allows two men to be instantly available for each other no matter the circumstances. How can you pick up the phone after years and feel like no time has

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39:01

TB9, S11, E14: Gus Ramsey — The Art of the Career Pivot

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2026/02/10

What do you do when your industry shifts — and your 21-year run suddenly ends? This week, we sit down with longtime ESPN producer Gus Ramsey to talk about career pivots, layoffs, reinvention, mentorship, and retirement planning on the Back 9. After producing SportsCenter's most important shows during its peak, Gus was forced to recalibrate. Instead of chasing relevance, he focused on usefulness — launching a coaching practice, leading the prestigious Dan Patrick School of Sportscasting, and

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36:36

TB9, S11, E13: Author and Therapist Colette Fehr —...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2026/02/03

Most relationships don't end because of one big blowup. They end because too much goes unsaid. This week on The Back 9, therapist and author Colette Fehr returns to the show to talk about her new book, The Cost of Quiet, and why avoiding conflict can quietly push couples toward distance, disconnection, and divorce. The three of us dig into how "keeping the peace" turns into resentment, how intimacy fades when hard conversations don't happen, and why this pattern shows up so often in midlife

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44:00

TB9, S11, E12: Expat Business Coach Linda Perry:...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2026/01/27

What does it actually take to design a life you want? And do you earn your way to that clarity by going through the harder chapters first? We're joined by someone who can answer those questions. Expat business coach and former federal criminal defense attorney Linda Perry has created a life that is a perfect model of what it looks like to build with intention. Linda shares how a 17-year career in law, a difficult ex-husband, and the work of self-reflection all shaped her understanding of who she

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43:31

TB9, S11, E11: Financial Advisor Mike Gyzl – Getting...

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2026/01/20

On this episode we give you some bang for your buck, as we sit down with financial advisor Mike Gyzl of Cetera Investors to talk about a topic most families avoid until it becomes urgent: money. Mike explains the "retirement red zone," how to think about replacing a paycheck after work ends, and why the coming wealth transfer makes family planning more important than ever. We also dig into how to bring kids and young adults into the conversation, why they often tune out their parents but will listen

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41:35

TB9, S11, E10: Joyce Feldman: Fitness That Sticks and...

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2026/01/13

We kick off the new season with our Wellness episode. Joyce Feldman, the leader of South Florida's Big Children's Foundation, which focuses on teens in foster care. Our discussion focuses on the importance of mentorship from men, and how early support, consistency, and real relationships matter more than quick fixes. Joyce is also a long-time health and fitness expert, and she leans into that expertise to share tips on how we can keep our fitness resolutions heading into the new year. It's a

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New Year, New Elements — Making the Turn TB9, S11

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2026/01/06

Kick off the new year with The Back 9 as we take you inside what's ahead in Season 11 to preview all our new elements of the show — including an updated format designed to help you quickly find the conversations that matter most to your life during midlife. We are emphasizing the topics our beloved listeners ask for most: parenting, modern masculinity, health and wellness, friendship, purpose, and legacy. Along the way, we look back at holiday travel chaos, laugh about over-cologned Uber drivers,

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24:43

TB9 — 19th Hole: A Year-end Reflection on...

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2025/12/30

In this season and year-end wrap-up of The Back 9, we reflect on the conversations, moments, and themes that defined Season 10. From a viral clip with Kerri Ballinger to powerful discussions on wellness, early detection, loss, and personal reinvention, this season delivered big moments of depth, honesty, and perspective at every turn. We share the insights from guests including Sean Springman, Ross Deutsch, and Sheryl Campbell, and take a personal look at our recurring themes of setting boundaries,

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34:43

Integrative Wellness Founder Judy Mackey: How to Be...

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2025/12/23

On this episode of The Back 9, we sit down with integrative wellness leader Judy Mackey to explore a smarter, whole-person approach to healing and cap a season devoted in large part to wellness. In facing her own health crisis, Judy discovered the power of Eastern medicine and integrative care — a journey that ultimately led her to help build StrataMed at Garden of the Gods. She explains how integrative approaches help uncover illness, and why trauma, behavior, and mindset often matter just as much

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35:57

Entrepreneur Chase Glick: How to Drink Healthy (TB9,...

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2025/12/16

Okay, maybe not how to drink healthy, but how to drink healthiER! On this episode of The Back 9, we sit down with Chase Glick, founder of Chay Spirits, to talk about personal reinvention, massive weight loss, and building a better-for-you alcohol brand from scratch. After losing more than 150 pounds, Chase rethought his relationship with alcohol — and set out to create an alcohol brand that actually fit a healthy lifestyle. He breaks down how keto changed his life, why ingredients matter, and how

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48:46

OUR LIVE SECOND ANNIVERSARY SHOW (Recorded from...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2025/12/09

We're celebrating two years of The Back 9 with our Second Anniversary Show, recorded live. We revisit the conversations that shaped our biggest episodes of the past year — from modern masculinity and leadership to healing, reinvention, and emotional resilience. Kerri Ballinger returns to complete the story behind her viral clip, sharing what EXACTLY was in her bath, and the rest of her journey through chronic illness. And Suzette Bravo joins us to break down what aspects of masculinity women

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34:51

Author Sheryl Campbell: Literally Rebuilding Life One...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2025/12/02

We sit down with author and Adirondack 46er Sheryl Campbell, whose powerful back-nine journey includes surviving breast cancer, navigating divorce, and losing her business during COVID. Sheryl shares how a single winter hike in the Adirondacks sparked her mission to climb all 46 high peaks, helping her quiet the noise, reclaim her identity, and finally let go of the past. Her story — including how losing a treasured object helped her find something far more meaningful — is an inspiring reminder that

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40:51

Health Executives Jim Coghlin & Tricia Laursen: Don't...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2025/11/25

On this week's Back 9, we sit down with Jim Coghlin and Tricia Laursen, the leaders of Detect Together, a nonprofit teaching people how to recognize subtle health changes and act early. Jim shares the personal loss that inspired the mission, and Tricia explains t a simple way to know your baseline, spot persistent changes, and communicate clearly with your doctor. Together, they break down why half of all cancers are diagnosed late, how small symptoms get dismissed, and why self-advocacy is one of

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Entrepreneur Tom Kubiniec: How to Figure It Out When...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2025/11/18

This week on The Back 9, we sit down with entrepreneur Tom Kubiniec, a former touring guitarist whose life took a hard left turn after an injury ended his music career. What followed was a masterclass in learning how to figure it out when life blows up your plan. Tom shares the story of landing his first major contract in an industry he barely understood, the lessons he learned while making money, losing money, and rebuilding again, and the surprising truth he discovered along the way: success

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43:16

Kerri Ballinger: Finding Health Beyond Prescriptions...

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2025/11/11

This week on The Back 9, we sit down with Kerri Ballinger. She's a practitioner of NAET, a holistic approach that uses energy balancing and muscle testing to reduce allergic reactions and restore wellness. Kerri shares her jaw-dropping story of overcoming a near-death chronic illness and helping her son heal from severe allergies through integrative methods. Together, we explore how Western medicine and holistic healing can work in harmony and the courage it takes to look beyond conventional

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43:03

High School Coach Ross Deutsch: Turn Tragedy Into a...

The Back 9 - Midlife, Best Life. ·

2025/11/04

This week on The Back 9, Dennis and Josh welcome high school basketball coach Ross Deutsch for a powerful and inspiring conversation about healing, resilience, and purpose after loss. Ross opens up about the unimaginable loss of his son Rory, and how that tragedy inspired the creation of the Rory David Deutsch Foundation, a beacon of hope for families facing pediatric cancer. He shares how his family — wife Mindy, sons Robbie and Rickey, and daughters Reggie and Rosie — showed him why giving your

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