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Specialty Matcha Podcast

Sanko Matcha Products

The Specialty Matcha Podcast is hosted by Ryan Ahn and Zongjun Li, cofounders of Sanko Matcha Products. We discuss the growth in popularity of matcha, innovation, and matcha science. We also interview thought leaders, tea merchants, and tea educators to discuss everything from sourcing, processing, blending, milling, storytelling, health claims, and much more. Sanko Matcha Products is a startup dedicated to using functional design to create contemporary matcha gear and the use of new technology to

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00:50:16

Global Japanese Tea Association, with Simona Suzuki

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2025/12/18

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) interview Simona Suzuki from the Global Japanese Tea Association. They discuss the origins of the association, its mission to connect tea lovers and producers, and the challenges faced by the Japanese tea industry, particularly in light of the recent matcha boom. Simona shares insights on community engagement, education, and the importance of balancing tradition with innovation in tea culture. The conversation highlights the

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00:55:02

2025 Specialty Matcha Podcast AMA

Specialty Matcha Podcast ·

2025/12/11

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) explore various aspects of matcha and tea culture more broadly, including how matcha can serve as a gateway to other leaf teas, their vision for a tea farm, the importance of sifting matcha, the relevance of best buy dates, and what consumers should ask to ensure they receive high-quality products. Thanks to all the listeners who submitted questions to our first AMA!

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01:32:49

The Matcha Program with Jules Reyes and Marc St Raymond

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2025/12/04

In this episode, Ryan and Sam (Zongjun) discuss the evolution of matcha with guests Jules Reyes and Marc St Raymond, formerly of the Jade Leaf Matcha. They explore the journey of matcha from a niche product to a mainstream beverage, the importance of consumer education, and the challenges of preparing matcha in cafes. The conversation delves into the significance of feedback in shaping matcha programs, the role of marketing in consumer expectations, and the future trends in the matcha industry. They

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01:02:50

Interrogating Chanoyu Narratives with Dr. Rebecca...

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2025/11/27

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, hosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) talk with with Dr. Rebecca Corbett, a historian specializing the history and practice of Japanese tea culture (chanoyu), and early modern Japanese women’s history. Dr. Corbett shares her personal journey into the world of tea and discusses the complexities of gender roles within tea practices. The conversation also touches on the influence of the Urasenke school, the secretive nature of knowledge transmission in Chanoyu,

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01:07:50

We made an interesting discovery

Specialty Matcha Podcast ·

2025/11/20

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) discuss their journey in developing a countertop matcha mill and the challenges they face in sourcing high-quality tencha. They explore the unexpected flavor profiles discovered in fresh milled gyokuro and the science behind milling and flavor extraction. The conversation delves into the contradictions within the matcha industry, the power dynamics at play, and the future of specialty matcha.

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01:02:34

The Price of Transparency

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2025/11/13

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) delve into the complexities of transparency in the matcha industry. They discuss the challenges faced by farmers and brands in sharing sourcing information, the importance of consumer education, and the evolving market dynamics that influence pricing and quality. Ultimately, they envision a future where consumer preferences shape the matcha landscape, leading to a richer and more diverse culture around matcha consumption.

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01:12:38

Matcha Sensory

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2025/11/06

In this episode, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) explore matcha through the lens of sensory science, flavor profiling, and quality assessment. They discuss cultural perspectives on taste, the socially-constructed nature of quality assessment, the role of descriptive analysis, and different frameworks for tasting. The episode concludes with comparative tastings examining the effects of temperature and dilution in matcha preparation, differences across matcha blends, and a comparison between two hand-picked,

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01:12:21

An Afternoon with a Chashi

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2025/10/30

https://forms.gle/48rLN1nXi6vAC1YF6In this episode, the hosts delve into the intricate world of matcha blending after spending an afternoon with a top-ranked chashi. The conversation covered topics such as new and exciting cultivars, compromises made when blending lower quality tencha, and their options of Chinese matcha which might surprise you!Koto Tea Space / Chajin Life in Bangkok recorded this great video referenced in the episode where they touch on one of the theories behind the

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00:55:18

Currency of Trust

Specialty Matcha Podcast ·

2025/10/23

*Correction: Uji City produced only 37.6 tons of tencha in 2024, not 70 tons. I confused this number with the area of actively farmed tea cultivation in Uji City which is 73.6 hectares (source: https://www.pref.kyoto.jp/nosan/documents/r6chachosa2.pdf)In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) delve into the intricate relationship between trust and the matcha industry. They explore how trust serves as the primary undercurrent of the industry, the complexities surrounding

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00:58:58

Interview with Cosmic Cultures, Lissi and Zach

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2025/10/16

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) welcome Lissi and Zach from Cosmic Cultures. They discuss the importance of low intervention agricultural practices in matcha, especially regarding the use of synthetic fertilizers and pesticides . The conversation delves into the importance of building relationships with farmers, the evolving landscape of matcha sourcing, and the significance of educating consumers about the quality and taste of naturally grown matcha. They

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00:56:55

Korean Matcha (Malcha)

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2025/10/09

In this episode, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) explore the history and evolving landscape of matcha and Korean tea culture. They discuss the globalization of matcha, the impact of Japanese colonial history, and the modern practices of tea production in Korea, particularly in regions like Jeju Island but also Boseong and Hadong. The conversation highlights the unique characteristics of Korean matcha, its potential in the global market, and the cultural narratives surrounding tea. The Korean Way of Tea in

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01:35:50

Interview with Per Oscar Brekell

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2025/10/02

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, hosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) talk with Oscar Brekell, a renowned expert and author in Japanese tea. He is the founder of the tea brand Senchaism, author of multiple books including A beginner's guide to Japanese Tea, and is a certified Nihoncha instructor.They explore Oscar's journey into the world of Japanese tea, the inner workings of tea research institutes, and the significance of cultivar development and processing techniques in shaping

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00:55:07

New Culture Creation & End of Season 3

Specialty Matcha Podcast ·

2025/09/11

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Sam (Zongjun) reflect on the evolution of matcha culture, the challenges posed by a global shortage, and the importance of embracing new consumer trends. They discuss the cultural shifts in matcha consumption, the stigmatization of non-Japanese matcha, and the need for a more inclusive global matcha community. The conversation highlights the potential for matcha to thrive as a global beverage while addressing the complexities of supply and

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00:50:48

Interview with Soy Té, Carolina

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2025/09/04

In this episode, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) interview Carolina , founder of Soy Té, who shares her tea journey. Carolina discusses the evolution of the matcha scene in Mexico, the different consumer groups, and the cultural influences on matcha consumption. She also shares her experiences in Japan, the challenges of sourcing quality matcha, and the importance of educating consumers about matcha. The conversation highlights the need for transparency in the industry and the significance of maintaining

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00:43:03

Interview with Abby the Matcha Scientist

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2025/08/28

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) interview Abby, a matcha scientist, who shares her journey from getting a PhD in chemical engineering at Stanford to exploring the world of matcha. The conversation delves into the science behind matcha, the challenges in researching it, and the importance of consumer education and transparency in the matcha industry. Abby discusses her use of colorimetry to measure matcha quality and the need for more scientific studies on

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01:51:33

Tea farming, tencha processing, and cultivars with...

Specialty Matcha Podcast ·

2025/08/21

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, hosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) welcome back Pau from Tea Nursery to discuss various aspects of tea cultivation and processing. The conversation delves into the 2025 spring harvest in Wazuka, including weather impacts and frost prevention techniques. They explore the realities of tea farming and the physical demands of tencha processing. The discussion also covers matcha fertilization practices, the effects of environmental stress on tea plants, and the

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00:57:51

Interview with Rocky's Matcha, Rocky

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2025/08/14

In this episode of the Specialty Match Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) interview Rocky Xu, founder of Rocky's Matcha. They discuss Rocky's journey into the world of matcha, the evolution of his brand, and the importance of authenticity and community in building a successful business. Rocky shares insights from his previous experience at Nike and how it has influenced his approach to branding and collaborations. The conversation also touches on sourcing philosophy and the significance of

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00:43:41

Interview with Zenkyu Matcha, Kensuke Suji

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2025/08/07

In this episode of the Specialty Match Podcast, Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) interview Kensuke Suji, Founder of Zenkyu Matcha based in Tokyo. Suji-san shares his journey from a corporate marketing career at Procter & Gamble to launching his own matcha brand. He discusses the cultural perceptions of matcha in Japan, the challenges of sourcing quality matcha, and the importance of mindfulness in the matcha making experience. The conversation also touches on market trends, consumer preferences, and the

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00:47:30

Interview with No Bad Matcha, James

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2025/07/31

In this episode, Ryan and Zongjun interview James from No Bad Matcha, discussing the evolution of matcha in the Philippines, the challenges faced in the specialty cafe industry, and the importance of sourcing high-quality matcha. James shares insights on consumer preferences, recipe development, matcha workflows, and the future of matcha in the region, emphasizing the need for education, quality control, and of course... no bad matcha.

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01:22:47

Interview with Haru Matcha, Nicha and Francis

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2025/07/24

In this episode of the Specialty Matcha Podcast, cohosts Ryan and Zongjun (Sam) talk to Nicha and Francis, the cofounders of Haru Matcha based in London. The discussion dives into the UK matcha scene, their experience visiting tea farms in Gokasho and other regions around Uji, and how they’ve built their brand. Nicha and Francis also share their unique perspective as professional behavioral scientists, exploring how theories and frameworks from consumer behavioral science can be leveraged to

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