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Our Rough Draft

Tim & Denise Waters

Our Rough Draft is where real conversations about marriage, family, work, and life’s messy middle unfold. Hosted by Denise and Tim Waters, this podcast invites listeners into their living room as they share honest stories about building a marriage that lasts, raising kids in the whirlwind of school and sports, and balancing careers with connection. Each week, they bring a mix of laughter, lessons learned, and life experiments—because every family is a “rough draft” in progress. From kids’ sports to

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Ep. 21 Thatcher & College

Our Rough Draft ·

2025/12/19

Thatcher is home for graduation and we talk about it!

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Ep. 20 Traditions

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2025/12/16

Our final episode of the season sharing our family traditions!

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Ep. 19 Ode to College

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2025/12/09

What We Talk About:First-generation college stories — how two very different paths shaped your adulthood.How expectations, finances, imposter syndrome, and identity play into the college journey.Why finding your people matters more than the school itself — and how community becomes belonging.Raising college students while still becoming adults yourselves — and how your sons’ college + military paths mirror and diverge from your own.What higher education is getting wrong, what it must do to survive,

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Ep. 18 The Messy Middle

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2025/12/02

The Messy MiddleIn this wide-ranging, candid episode of Our Rough Draft, Denise and Tim unpack what “middle life” feels like—from the frustration of overgeneralized research to the consequences of repeated moves and the friendships that survive seasons of change.Denise reflects on her academic research (Cycle Zero complete!) and why she prefers “holding the process loosely” over blindly trusting one-size-fits-all systems. They talk about the Wenatchee move, what they learned (and what they regret),

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Ep. 17 The Art of Connection: Finding Joy in Small...

Our Rough Draft ·

2025/11/25

keywords gratitude, connection, Thanksgiving, family, change, art, personal growth, loss, traditions, reflectionIn this episode, Denise & Tim explore themes of gratitude, connection, and the complexities of navigating change in life. They discuss personal experiences related to new job opportunities, the importance of small moments of joy, and the challenges of maintaining gratitude amidst loss. The conversation also delves into Thanksgiving traditions and the significance of family connections,

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Ep. 16 Stories of Us

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2025/11/18

In this deeply personal episode, Denise and Tim share the origin story of their family — three boys, five tattoos, and a bond forged through deployment, surprise pregnancies, and the kind of vulnerability that makes a family stronger. From a secret pregnancy revealed on a honeymoon to a diagnosis that tested their resolve, this is the story of how they became the five.What We Talk AboutThe Monday before the wedding surprise — and why Denise kept it secretThatcher's arrival: 24+ hours of labor,

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Ep. 15 Veterans Day

Our Rough Draft ·

2025/11/11

Episode SummaryIn their new home podcast studio, Denise and Tim open up about what Veterans Day truly means — beyond the bumper stickers and well-intentioned “thank you for your service.” They explore the difference between Veterans Day and Memorial Day, the nuance of recognition versus understanding, and how storytelling keeps service experiences alive. Along the way, they reflect on Pat Tillman’s legacy at ASU, veteran benefits that miss the mark, and a powerful new film that gets it right.What We

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Ep. 14 Tim & Service

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2025/11/07

⚠️ Trigger WarningThis episode discusses suicidal thoughts and experiences. If you or someone you know is struggling, you are not alone. Help is available—call or text 988 to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline (available 24/7 in the U.S.). You can also visit 988lifeline.org for chat and resources.In this reflective and deeply personal episode, Denise and Tim open up about what service really means—before, during, and long after the uniform comes off.With Veterans Day on the horizon, they dive

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Ep. 13 When Jobs are Hard

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2025/11/04

⚠️ Trigger WarningThis episode discusses suicidal thoughts and experiences. If you or someone you know is struggling, you are not alone. Help is available—call or text 988 to reach the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline (available 24/7 in the U.S.). You can also visit 988lifeline.org for chat and resources.In this honest and emotional episode, Denise and Tim open up about the hardest chapters of their working lives. Tim shares the story of a toxic boss and the dark spiral that followed his return from

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Ep. 12 Best Jobs/Worst Jobs

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2025/10/28

In this episode, Denise and Tim discuss their best and worst job experiences, reflecting on the lessons learned and the impact of workplace culture. They explore the importance of mentorship, leadership, and finding joy in work, while sharing personal stories from their careers at Eddie Bauer and other companies.Eddie Bauer was a formative experience for both speakers, teaching them valuable lessons about leadership and teamwork.The importance of a supportive and value-driven workplace culture is

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Ep. 11 How We Are Wired

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2025/10/21

SummaryIn this conversation, Denise Waters shares her experiences with personal overwhelm, the challenges of parenting, and the differences in perspectives on sports and optimism. The discussion explores the balance between order and chaos in daily life, the dynamics of relationships, and the importance of understanding personal differences. Denise reflects on her journey of self-awareness and growth, emphasizing the need for grace and flexibility in navigating life's challenges.TakeawaysDenise

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Ep. 10 Travel Debrief

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2025/10/17

In this episode, Denise & Tim reflect on their recent trip to Italy, exploring how travel shapes perspectives and fosters connections. The conversation covers their experiences in Sorrento, the challenges faced during the trip, the cultural immersion through cooking classes, and the historical significance of Pompeii. The hosts emphasize the importance of teamwork and personal growth through travel, while also looking ahead to future adventures.TakeawaysTravel broadens our horizons and

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Ep. 9 Travel

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2025/10/14

In this engaging conversation, Denise and Tim explore the profound impact of travel on personal growth, relationships, and family traditions. They share memorable trips, including their engagement story, and discuss how travel has shaped their lives and strengthened their bond. The couple reflects on the joys and challenges of traveling together, the importance of authenticity in relationships, and the lessons learned from family travel. They also look forward to future adventures, emphasizing the

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Ep. 8 Listening

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2025/10/07

SummaryIn this conversation, Denise Waters and her guest explore the critical role of listening in communication, emphasizing the need for empathy and understanding in conversations. They share personal anecdotes and discuss the challenges posed by biases and the importance of creating space for untold stories. The dialogue highlights the significance of asking the right questions and being present in conversations, especially in a divided world. The episode concludes with a listener challenge to

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Ep. 7 Parenting

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2025/09/30

SummaryIn this conversation, Denise Waters and her partner discuss their experiences and insights on parenting, particularly focusing on the challenges and joys of raising three boys. They explore the dynamics of parenting from a distance, the impact of deployment on family relationships, and the importance of maintaining strong connections among siblings. The conversation also touches on the expectations versus reality of parenthood, the roles each parent plays, and the cherished memories that

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Ep. 6 Family Dynamics

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2025/09/23

In this episode, Denise Waters explores the complexities of family dynamics, sharing her personal experiences and insights. She discusses her family's history, the impact of divorce, and the importance of support systems. Denise reflects on navigating relationships within her extended family, the challenges of grief, and the legacy of emotional health. She emphasizes the need for open communication and the potential for change in family dynamics, encouraging listeners to consider their own family

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Ep. 5 Meet Tim

Our Rough Draft ·

2025/09/19

SummaryIn this episode, Tim Waters shares his personal journey, exploring his identity through various roles such as husband, father, soldier, and coworker. He reflects on the values of loyalty and service, particularly from his time in the military, and discusses his love for adventure and the outdoors. Tim emphasizes the importance of these experiences in shaping who he is today and invites listeners to engage with him and his wife, Denise, as they share their stories in future

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Ep. 4 Kids Sports

Our Rough Draft ·

2025/09/16

From early mornings and long weekends to lessons learned on the field, Denise and Tim share the highs, lows, and funniest stories about raising kids in sports culture. (Pippa Grange’s Fear Less makes an appearance, too.)Keywordskids sports, parenting, youth sports, baseball, volleyball, sportsmanship, life lessons, family, friendships, coachingSummaryIn this episode, Denise Waters and her co-host explore the chaotic yet rewarding world of kids sports. They share personal anecdotes about their

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Ep. 3 Meet Denise

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2025/09/12

Wife, mom, coach, writer, professor. Denise wears many hats, and in this episode she opens up about her story, her work, and what drives her. A deeper look at the woman behind the mic.I say in here that we will release every two weeks, LIES! It is scheduled weekly!Keywordspodcast, storytelling, relationships, connection, parenting, education, career, personal growth, life experiences, communicationSummaryIn this episode of 'Our Rough Draft,' Denise Waters introduces the podcast, sharing her journey

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Ep. 2 Work, Life, Relationship Balance

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2025/09/09

How do you juggle demanding careers, a marriage, and raising kids without losing yourself? Denise and Tim unpack what balance looks like for them—their wins, their struggles, and the lessons learned along the way.Key WordsWork-Life Balance, Relationships, Communication, Intentional Living, Personal Growth, Stress Management, Family Dynamics, Rituals, Connection, Supportive PartnershipsSummaryIn this engaging episode, we explore the often elusive concept of work-life balance. Our conversation delves

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