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Future Proof HR

Thomas Kunjappu

Welcome to the Future Proof HR podcast by Cleary, hosted by Thomas Kunjappu, Cleary"s CEO. In this podcast, we dive into the latest innovations in HR, exploring how AI and automation are transforming people operations. Thomas regularly shares his insights on the future of work, while also bringing in thought leaders who are pushing the boundaries of AI in HR to offer fresh perspectives on the challenges and opportunities ahead. Whether you"re an HR leader aiming to optimize your operations or

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All Episodes

35:18

The New Shape of HR: AI, Shared Services, and the...

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2026/03/06

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Amy Wang, Head of HR and Payroll Shared Services at Mercedes-Benz North America, to discuss how HR is changing as AI, shared services, and human leadership increasingly overlap.With experience across IT, procurement, operations, and HR, Amy brings a cross-functional perspective on what it takes to build systems that are both scalable and people-centered. She explains why the future of HR depends on

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46:30

The Plus-Shaped Leader: Leading at the Intersection...

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2026/02/27

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Fernando Garcia, Chief People and Legal Officer at Opta Group (at the time of recording), to unpack what HR leaders are getting wrong about AI, and what they should be doing instead.Fernando brings a rare blend of experience across HR, legal, compliance, and business strategy, and he makes a clear case for why AI will not replace HR, but it will reshape the job. The work that remains, he argues, is the

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41:51

Beyond Survival Mode: How HR Brought Wellness + AI to...

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2026/02/24

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil, our podcast co-host and executive producer, sits down with Dominique Williams, Head of HR for North and South America at Forbo Movement Systems, to discuss the high-stakes transformation of HR in a manufacturing environment. Dominique shares her journey of walking into a "blank slate" organization—where the entire previous HR team had departed—and how she rebuilt the function from the ground up while facing a heartbreaking reality:

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37:03

HR in the Age of AI: Leadership, Talent, and the New...

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2026/02/20

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Adam McCoy, VP of HR at DMC Global Inc., to discuss what AI really means for HR leaders navigating economic pressure, talent shifts, and rising expectations to do more without adding headcount.Adam explains why he is not asking for more HR headcount and how AI is changing the way teams prioritize, execute, and deliver value. From building leadership training with AI to rethinking day-to-day workflows, he

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45:18

AI That Elevates People: Building Strategy,...

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2026/02/17

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Stefani Voorhees, Chief Human Resources Officer at Propio Language Services, to explore what it really takes to adopt AI across an organization without losing the human element.Stefani shares how executive alignment, transparency, and a clear philosophy that “AI makes people better, not replaced” shaped a company-wide shift toward responsible experimentation. From forming an internal AI function to

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45:34

The Strategic Pivot: Navigating HR Layoffs, Brand...

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2026/02/13

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Chelly Conley, Director of Global HR and Inclusion at KnowBe4, to discuss the raw reality of the HR industry in 2026. From navigating the toughest job market in over a decade to surviving the "Wild West" of AI adoption, Chelly shares a no-sugarcoat guide to staying resilient and relevant.Chelly opens up about the "visceral" state of the current HR labor market, where experienced professionals are facing

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47:53

Trust Is the Strategy: Transparency During Reorgs,...

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2026/02/10

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Jennifer Albert, Chief People Officer at Extensiv, to explore what it really takes to lead through sustained change. From reorgs and acquisitions to AI adoption, Jennifer explains why trust and transparency are the difference between momentum and breakdown.Jennifer shares how her background in psychology and business shaped her approach to HR leadership during periods of intense disruption. The

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39:17

Revenue, Risk, and Remote Truth: Future-Proofing...

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2026/02/06

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Jim Kanichirayil, our podcast co-host and executive producer, sits down with Amanda Woodard, Senior Director of HR at Submittable, to unpack what changes when talent acquisition goes hybrid, candidate pools explode, and AI makes it easier than ever for bad actors to slip into your pipeline.Amanda shares her unconventional path from customer success into TA and HR, and why that revenue-side experience helped her operationalize recruiting like a

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38:46

The 24-Month Head Start: Rethinking People, CX, and...

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2026/02/03

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Lorena Scott, Chief People Officer and Head of Customer Experience at Relay, to explore how AI can be used to accelerate people and CX roadmaps without losing the human moments that matter most.Drawing on her dual mandate across People and Customer Experience, Lorena shares how Relay thinks about AI not as a replacement for people, but as a way to expand capacity, unlock time, and bring forward initiatives that would

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32:52

Human First, AI Powered: How One Company Scaled...

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2026/01/30

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marlene Cosain, HR Director at Abby Connect, to explore what it really looks like when a human-centered company introduces AI into the core of its business without eroding trust or displacing its people.Drawing on her journey from receptionist to HR Director, Marlene shares how Abby Connect navigated the launch of an AI receptionist inside a company built on human connection. She explains why transparency, early

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49:22

People + Strategy: Coaching the System, Not Just the...

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2026/01/26

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Andy Martiniello, Chief People Officer at Equipment Ontario and Principal Coach at Martiniello Coaching & Consulting, to explore what it really means for HR to work at the intersection of people and strategy, not as separate disciplines, but in lockstep.Drawing on a career spanning sales leadership, executive coaching, HR technology, and strategy work, Andy shares how coaching senior leaders requires a deep

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47:03

Beyond the Seat at the Table: Claiming Authority...

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2026/01/20

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Kendall Schultz, Chief People Officer at Triumph Behavior Support, to explore what it really takes for HR to move beyond a cost center and earn authority inside fast-growing, high-pressure organizations. With over 15 years of experience across venture-backed and private equity environments, Kendall shares how HR leaders can build credibility through execution, not permission, while navigating scale, risk, and constant

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43:37

Human Connection Is the Product: Why This HR Leader...

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2026/01/16

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Amaan Hussain, Director of HR at The Acquisition Group, to explore how HR leaders can adopt AI without sacrificing the human connection that defines their organization. With over a decade of experience leading HR strategy in high-growth, direct-to-consumer environments, Amaan shares how his team balances efficiency, empathy, and scale in a world increasingly shaped by technology.Amaan explains why his organization is

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38:25

Judgment Over Tools: Leading HR Through the AI Noise

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2026/01/13

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jamie Rivero, HR Director at MYCO Mechanical, Inc., to explore what disciplined HR leadership looks like in a rapidly changing environment. Drawing on nearly two decades of experience across manufacturing, logistics, healthcare, retail, and construction, Jamie shares how HR leaders can navigate AI adoption and major system decisions without losing credibility or trust.Jamie explains why moving too fast on AI and HR

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43:25

From Service to Predictive: How HR Leads AI as...

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2026/01/06

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jessica DeLorenzo, Chief Human Resources Officer at Kimball Electronics, to explore how HR leaders can guide AI adoption as a business transformation, not just a technology rollout. Drawing from her non-traditional path into HR and nearly a decade inside a global, low-margin manufacturing organization, Jessica shares how HR can move from reactive service delivery to predictive, value-adding leadership.Jessica explains why

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36:08

Future-Proofing HR in a High-Risk Industry: Lessons...

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2025/12/17

In this episode of theFuture Proof HRpodcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down withAmy Johnston, Head of People and Capability at Orion New Zealand Ltd., to explore what it really takes to future-proof HR inside a high-risk, highly regulated industry undergoing massive transformation. As electricity demand accelerates due to electrification, sustainability goals, and AI-driven data centers, Amy shares how HR plays a critical role in keeping people safe, workforces resilient, and organizations ready for

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38:46

Future-Proof HR Isn’t About Tools: Learning,...

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2025/12/12

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Diana Alvis, VP of HR at Crown Capital MGMT, to discuss what it actually takes to future-proof HR beyond tools, hype, and fear. With more than 20 years of experience across retail, public sector, healthcare, immigration law, and construction, Diana brings a grounded, operator-first perspective on learning, judgment, and using AI responsibly to raise the quality of HR work.Diana shares how HR fundamentals translate across

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47:45

People First, AI Forward: Rethinking HR for a Faster,...

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2025/12/10

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Julie Fonzo, Senior Vice President of Human Resources at Five Star Breaktime Solutions, to discuss how HR can move fast with AI while staying grounded in real human connection. With experience across startups, turnarounds, growth environments, and M&A, Julie brings a business operator mindset and a clear approach to using technology to elevate not replace the employee experience.Julie shares how her team supports

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44:56

Learning, Thinking, Adapting: The Human Skills That...

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2025/12/06

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marta Vittini, Vice President of Human Resources at Renovation Brands, to explore the human skills HR leaders must protect as technology accelerates change across every part of the workplace. Drawing on experience leading acquisitions, shaping culture across distributed teams, and driving AI adoption from the inside, Marta reflects on what it now takes for HR to stay sharp, relevant, and trusted in a world where tools

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48:25

The Business Athletes: How HR Leaders Bring AI to...

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2025/12/03

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Shari Chernack, Chief People Officer at Isaacson Miller and an ICF-certified executive coach, to unpack what it now takes for HR to operate as true business athletes in the age of AI. Drawing on experience across Fortune 100, PE, and VC-backed environments, Shari talks about how the CHRO role has shifted from administrative support to strategic leadership and why HR leaders can’t afford to stay on the sidelines as AI

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