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Future Proof HR

Thomas Kunjappu

Welcome to the Future Proof HR podcast by Cleary, hosted by Thomas Kunjappu, Cleary"s CEO. In this podcast, we dive into the latest innovations in HR, exploring how AI and automation are transforming people operations. Thomas regularly shares his insights on the future of work, while also bringing in thought leaders who are pushing the boundaries of AI in HR to offer fresh perspectives on the challenges and opportunities ahead. Whether you"re an HR leader aiming to optimize your operations or

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43:37

Human Connection Is the Product: Why This HR Leader...

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2026/01/16

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Amaan Hussain, Director of HR at The Acquisition Group, to explore how HR leaders can adopt AI without sacrificing the human connection that defines their organization. With over a decade of experience leading HR strategy in high-growth, direct-to-consumer environments, Amaan shares how his team balances efficiency, empathy, and scale in a world increasingly shaped by technology.Amaan explains why his organization is

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38:25

Judgment Over Tools: Leading HR Through the AI Noise

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2026/01/13

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jamie Rivero, HR Director at MYCO Mechanical, Inc., to explore what disciplined HR leadership looks like in a rapidly changing environment. Drawing on nearly two decades of experience across manufacturing, logistics, healthcare, retail, and construction, Jamie shares how HR leaders can navigate AI adoption and major system decisions without losing credibility or trust.Jamie explains why moving too fast on AI and HR

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43:25

From Service to Predictive: How HR Leads AI as...

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2026/01/06

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Jessica DeLorenzo, Chief Human Resources Officer at Kimball Electronics, to explore how HR leaders can guide AI adoption as a business transformation, not just a technology rollout. Drawing from her non-traditional path into HR and nearly a decade inside a global, low-margin manufacturing organization, Jessica shares how HR can move from reactive service delivery to predictive, value-adding leadership.Jessica explains why

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36:08

Future-Proofing HR in a High-Risk Industry: Lessons...

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2025/12/17

In this episode of theFuture Proof HRpodcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down withAmy Johnston, Head of People and Capability at Orion New Zealand Ltd., to explore what it really takes to future-proof HR inside a high-risk, highly regulated industry undergoing massive transformation. As electricity demand accelerates due to electrification, sustainability goals, and AI-driven data centers, Amy shares how HR plays a critical role in keeping people safe, workforces resilient, and organizations ready for

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38:46

Future-Proof HR Isn’t About Tools: Learning,...

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2025/12/12

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Diana Alvis, VP of HR at Crown Capital MGMT, to discuss what it actually takes to future-proof HR beyond tools, hype, and fear. With more than 20 years of experience across retail, public sector, healthcare, immigration law, and construction, Diana brings a grounded, operator-first perspective on learning, judgment, and using AI responsibly to raise the quality of HR work.Diana shares how HR fundamentals translate across

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47:45

People First, AI Forward: Rethinking HR for a Faster,...

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2025/12/10

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Julie Fonzo, Senior Vice President of Human Resources at Five Star Breaktime Solutions, to discuss how HR can move fast with AI while staying grounded in real human connection. With experience across startups, turnarounds, growth environments, and M&A, Julie brings a business operator mindset and a clear approach to using technology to elevate not replace the employee experience.Julie shares how her team supports

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44:56

Learning, Thinking, Adapting: The Human Skills That...

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2025/12/06

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Marta Vittini, Vice President of Human Resources at Renovation Brands, to explore the human skills HR leaders must protect as technology accelerates change across every part of the workplace. Drawing on experience leading acquisitions, shaping culture across distributed teams, and driving AI adoption from the inside, Marta reflects on what it now takes for HR to stay sharp, relevant, and trusted in a world where tools

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48:25

The Business Athletes: How HR Leaders Bring AI to...

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2025/12/03

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Shari Chernack, Chief People Officer at Isaacson Miller and an ICF-certified executive coach, to unpack what it now takes for HR to operate as true business athletes in the age of AI. Drawing on experience across Fortune 100, PE, and VC-backed environments, Shari talks about how the CHRO role has shifted from administrative support to strategic leadership and why HR leaders can’t afford to stay on the sidelines as AI

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37:21

Co-Creating AI-Ready, Truly Human Workplaces: HR as...

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2025/11/21

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Nicole Dessain, Founder of TheTalent Imperativeand curator of the HR Hackathon Alliance, to talk about what it really means for HR to co-create AI-ready, truly human workplaces. Nicole shares how a CEO survey calling CHROs the least AI-savvy in the C-suite sparked her own 30-day AI learning challenge, and how that personal reset turned into a practical blueprint any HR leader can use to build confidence and credibility

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35:27

AI in the Middle, Humans in the Lead: Inside a Lean,...

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2025/11/18

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Leah Pearson, Senior Director of Human Resources at First Onsite Property Restoration, to unpack what it really takes to run HR inside a disaster-response organization. Leah shares how her sales background shaped her business-first approach, how she built a culture where employees raise their hands to drive change, and why she believes AI should sit in the middle of the process while humans stay in the lead. She and

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34:04

Led by Curiosity: From Accidental HR to Building the...

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2025/11/14

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Divya Devakran, Director of Human Resources at EVS Engineering, to trace her path from “accidental” HR to building a company GPT. Divya shares how she built EVS’s HR function from the ground up, why she started a passion project to create an AI-powered policy and coaching bot for her organization, and how she is thinking about psychological safety, guardrails, and the very real time crunch HR teams live in. She and Thomas

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43:57

Future of HR and AI: The Mindset and Skills You Need Now

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2025/11/11

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Tara Blythe, Chief People Officer at Infotech, to break down what “future-ready leadership” really means in the age of AI. Tara explains why AI is less a threat to humanity and more a catalyst for becoming more human, as leaders relearn curiosity, creativity, and critical judgment. She shares her “AC cheat code” framework, combining Action (agility, agency, adaptability) with Connection (communication, curation,

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41:32

Reinventing HR: Courage, Curiosity, and the AI-Ready...

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2025/11/07

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Alim Dhanji, CHRO at TD SYNNEX, whose career spans HR, finance, M&A, and even serving as President of Adidas Canada.From leading through supply chain crises to running startups and now driving an AI-first HR transformation, Alim shares how curiosity, simplicity, and critical thinking have shaped his leadership across every function.He talks about reimagining HR as a series of products, helping teams overcome fear of

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34:29

Human at the Core: How HR and AI Drive Care, Culture,...

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2025/11/04

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Omar Alhadi, Senior HR Director atAdobe Population Health(APH), a rapidly scaling, multi-state healthcare provider redefining how proactive, human-centered care is delivered.From leading HR as a one-person operation to shaping a strategic function that bridges AI, culture, and clinical innovation, Omar shares how he’s building an HR model where technology amplifies human connection instead of replacing it.He talks about

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44:01

Spreadsheets, Stories, and Strategy: What Moves HR...

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2025/10/31

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Spandana Suddapalli, Head of People at Vidmob, whose career bridges analytics, leadership, and culture building across global tech and high-growth startups. Known for her ability to combine human insight with data-driven decision-making, Spandana unpacks what it really takes to build an HR function that’s both strategic and emotionally intelligent in the age of AI.From transforming recruiting guardrails to crafting

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35:18

HR’s New Era: Leading with Data, Empathy, and AI

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2025/10/28

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Ester Gramegna, Head of Human Resources at Aventum Group, a global leader in reinsurance that’s reimagining what modern HR looks like in an AI-driven workplace.Ester brings a global and deeply human perspective to digital transformation, showing how HR can balance analytics, automation, and empathy to guide organizations through change. With a background in research and data, she’s helping Aventum build scalable,

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39:02

Stay Curious, Get Creative, Build What’s Next: The...

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2025/10/24

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Ken Moses, Chief People Officer at Cascade Environmental, whose career spans both high-tech and heavy industry. Known for his experimental mindset and willingness to challenge convention, Ken has turned curiosity into a leadership philosophy; one that’s redefining what HR can look like in an AI-driven world.From testing recruiting bots and using AI to analyze engagement surveys to reimagining how internal communications

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48:36

More Human Than Ever: How HR Can Redefine Work...

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2025/10/21

In this episode of the Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu, CEO of Cleary, sits down with Sabrina Sdao, Chief Growth Officer at Thursday Strategy and former corporate strategist at Deloitte, to discuss how organizations can thrive in the age of AI through adaptability and human-centered growth.With over a decade of experience advising companies on transformation, Sabrina shares how adaptability has become the single most important skill for every worker. From the C-suite to the front line. She

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53:50

How HR Evolved: From Paperwork to Partnership

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2025/10/15

In this episode of the Future Proof HR Podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Gene Hallenbeck, Vice President of Human Resources at Dennis & Co Auto Group and longtime HR educator, to unpack how HR evolved from paperwork to partnership.With over four decades of experience from rotary phones and filing cabinets to AI-driven analytics, Gene has seen HR transform from an administrative function into a strategic, trusted advisor to the business. He shares what it takes to modernize HR structures,

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46:22

Building an AI-First Culture: Embedding AI in the...

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2025/10/10

In this episode of the Future Proof HR podcast, Thomas Kunjappu sits down with Lauren Tropeano, Chief People Officer at Docebo, a global AI-first learning platform supporting HR and L&D teams worldwide. Lauren is helping shape what it means to be an AI-first organization—from rethinking learning and development to weaving AI literacy into every level of the employee experience.Lauren shares how her team is translating a bold AI vision into everyday behavior, creating a culture where curiosity,

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