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We Need A Fourth

SmartLess Media

SmartLess Media presents: We Need a Fourth! Hosts Kenny Mayne, Brian Baumgartner and Cooper Manning are looking for just one thing: someone to fill out their Saturday morning tee time. Join them each week as they talk to their famous friends who all have one thing in common: their love (and oftentimes hate) for the game of golf. They care less about swing speeds and spin rates, and more about who’s the biggest cheat their guests have ever played with, or what the perfect golf vacation looks

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00:54:35

Peter Jacobsen on His Rock Band With Payne Stewart +...

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2026/10/05

Peter Jacobsen spent three decades on the PGA Tour playing golf with rock stars by day and performing with them at night. He breaks down how Jake Trout and the Flounders was born alongside Payne Stewart, Huey Lewis, and Alice Cooper — and what it was actually like on the set of Tin Cup when the tour players walked up to Kevin Costner's shot and started ripping it onto the green. Plus: Jack Lemmon's famous opening tee shot at Pebble, why Jack Nicklaus sucked the air out of a room the same way Tiger

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01:19:03

Brandel Chamblee Sounds Off on Phil Mickelson's...

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2026/09/28

Brandel Chamblee has never been shy about LIV Golf, Phil Mickelson, or either of their legacies — and he's not starting now. He breaks down why LIV failed exactly as he predicted, what Phil could have been if he'd never left, and whether there's a path back for anyone who took the Saudi money. Plus: the Tiger vs. Jack GOAT debate, where Scottie Scheffler's ceiling is, and the Augusta evening that remains the sweetest moment of Brandel's entire career. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See

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00:59:32

Annika Sörenstam on Teaming up With Tiger, Ms. 59,...

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2026/09/21

Annika Sörenstam is the only player in LPGA history to shoot 59 — and that's not even the most remarkable thing she's done. She breaks down the 1995 US Open that launched her career, what it was actually like teaming with Tiger Woods against David Duval and Karrie Webb at the Battle of Bighorn, and the moment at a press conference when she decided to enter a PGA Tour event and play against the men. Plus: how many strokes she'd give Brian in a match, and why she says the number is non-negotiable

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00:46:18

ReRelease - Which Team Does Sportscasting Hall of...

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2026/09/14

This ReRelease episode, the guys welcomeasportscaster who has called 23 World Series and 6 Super Bowls: Joe Buck! He downplays his handicap, but don't you believe it. He shares which Manning brother Dake Maye reminds him most of, the horribly unlucky golf accident that his strong marriage survived, and he does play by play on our hosts worst golf shotsFollow Joe at @joebuck,and follow our hosts Cooper Manning@coopermanning, Kenny Mayne@mayne.kenny& Brian Baumgartner@bbbaumgartner We Need a

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00:47:18

ReRelease - What Does Superstar Golf Influencer Paige...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/09/07

On this ReRelease episode the guys are thrilled to welcomeperhaps the biggest golf influencer in the world: Paige Spiranac. Fresh off the finals at the Internet Invitational, Paige shares Kenny's hatred for golf dress codes, who is actually taking those pictures of her, and what happens when you go off script on the set of Happy Gilmore 2.Follow Paige at_paige.renee,and follow our hosts Cooper Manning@coopermanning, Kenny Mayne@mayne.kenny& Brian Baumgartner@bbbaumgartner We Need a Fourth is

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01:01:24

The Next Jim Nantz: Taylor Zarzour on Bryson's...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/08/31

Cooper Manning calls him the next Jim Nantz — and after this conversation, it's hard to argue. Taylor Zarzour calls the Masters with Mike Tirico, voices the Tennessee Titans, and has spent years interviewing golf's biggest personalities up close. He breaks down why Bryson DeChambeau is actually one of the most fun interviews in the sport, what Cam Ward told him about his touchdown calls, and why golf on the radio is the hardest thing to do in broadcasting. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company

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01:28:48

30 Years of Unheard Tiger, Jack, and Arnie Stories:...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/08/24

Tiger Woods, Jack Nicklaus, and Arnold Palmer: Rich Lerner spent 30 years inside the ropes with all three and has the stories nobody else can tell. He breaks down Tiger's case as the greatest golfer ever, what Ernie Els' father said about trying to compete with him, and why Arnie was unlike any famous person he ever encountered. Plus: the single most memorable moment of his entire career, which had nothing to do with a golf shot. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for

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01:04:17

Justin Thomas on the LIV vs PGA Tour War, Why Scottie...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/08/17

Justin Thomas doesn't hold back on the state of professional golf — what LIV's arrival actually did to the rivalries and personalities that made the game compelling, and why Bryson DeChambeau is central to that conversation. He also breaks down what makes Scottie Scheffler so hard to beat, and revisits the Sunday at Southern Hills where he was eight strokes back standing on the ninth green and somehow won his second major. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information

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01:01:44

Super Troopers' Jay Chandrasekhar Is So Addicted to...

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2026/08/10

Jay Chandrasekhar played golf 680 out of 730 consecutive days — and that's not even the most obsessive thing about his relationship with the game. The Super Troopers director breaks down his four different golf addictions, what it's like lying to his crew so he can sneak out for nine holes during a shoot, and why he wrote an entire movie set in Scotland just so someone else would pay for the golf trip. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection

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01:02:04

The PGA Tour Secrets Only A Veteran Caddie Would...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/08/03

Michael Collins spent 10 years as a PGA Tour caddie and a stand-up comedian at the same time — and the stories he's collected from inside the ropes are unlike anything you've heard before. He breaks down what really goes on out there, how the caddie world actually works, and why the job is nothing like what most people think it is. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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00:38:36

ReRelease - YouTube Golf Star Fat Perez Isn't Crazy...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/07/27

On this ReRelease episode, the guys meet golf influencer, cold beer enthusiast and former accountant Fat Perez. We learn about his golf eurostep, his chance meeting with Pat Perez, and why he's never going back to that desk job. Follow Fat Perez at @thefatperez, and follow our hosts Cooper Manning @coopermanning, Kenny Mayne @mayne.kenny & Brian Baumgartner @bbbaumgartner We Need a Fourth is produced by SmartLess Media and Electric Avenue. Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning, Kenny Mayne and

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00:44:41

ReRelease - PGA's Max Homa Revives His Savage Swing...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/07/20

On this ReRelease episode the guys are joined by one of the best and one of the funniest guys on the PGA tour: Max Homa. Max revives his infamous swing roasts on our hosts, talks about getting a headlock from Aaron Rodgers' security team and tells us about his PGA record setting 477 (!) foot driveFollow Max at @MaxHoma, and follow our hosts Cooper Manning @coopermanning, Kenny Mayne @mayne.kenny & Brian Baumgartner @bbbaumgartner We Need a Fourth is produced by SmartLess Media and Electric

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00:52:25

JR Smith on the 2016 Cavs Reunion, LeBron Chasing...

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2026/07/13

JR Smith, LeBron James, and the 2016 Cavs championship team are all deep into golf now — and JR has stories. He breaks down what really happened on the Cavs reunion trip across England and Scotland, how good LeBron can actually get, and what it was like walking away from the NBA to become the oldest guy on a college golf team. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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00:38:13

ReRelease - Can Eli Manning Count a Bank Shot as a...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/07/06

On this ReRelease episode, Brian, Cooper, and Kenny welcome golfer and two time Superbowl champion Eli Manning to the podcast, and we cover his fluke hole in one, how Brian possibly violated his locker back in the day, and who is the biggest bully of the Manning brothers. Follow Eli Manning at @elimanning and watch Monday Night Football with Peyton and Eli on ESPN2, and @chadpowershulu premiering September 30. We Need a Fourth is produced by Smartless Media and Electric Avenue. Brian

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00:34:17

ReRelease - Austin Reaves Says He's Better Than Steph...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/06/29

On this ReRelease episode, Brian, Cooper, and Kenny are joined by Lakers guard and one hell of a golfer Austin Reaves from the hallowed grounds of St. Andrews, Scotland. Fresh off a round at the Old Course with our hosts, Austin settles his golf debt to Brian, says Kenny would not lose a hole to Lebron, watches Cooper drink a shot of liquefied haggis (!), and stakes his claim to to be the best golfer in the NBA. Steph? Thoughts? Follow Austin at @austinreaves12 We Need a Fourth is produced by

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00:43:09

Melvin Gordon on Chasing Barry Sanders, "Disrupting"...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/06/22

Melvin Gordon still thinks about the 41 yards that kept him from passing Barry Sanders' rushing record — and how that ties into his love for golf. He breaks down how he went from hating golf on his very first round to building Vibes Golf Club, a community aimed at changing who shows up on the course, and co-hosting We Know Ball, a show built to bring golf to people who'd otherwise never tune in. Plus: the saga of his five broken drivers this year, his ongoing campaign for left-handed golfer rights,

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01:00:30

Lamorne Morris On His Golf Addiction, Why It's Harder...

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2026/06/15

Emmy winner Lamorne Morris joins Brian, Cooper, and Kenny to talk about the golf addiction that snuck up on him less than a year ago and hasn't let go since. He breaks down why golf is harder than anything else he's done and what it's like watching Kevin Hart pursue the game from his studio trailer. Plus: the greatest shot of his life at Big Cedar Lodge, the six-inch eagle putt that somehow became a bogey, and what Nick Cage told him about Liberace and dressing for your level of talent. Hosted by

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00:58:14

Jermaine Kearse on Malcolm Butler, the Pro Athlete...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/06/08

Jermaine Kearse won a Super Bowl with Seattle, made one of the greatest catches in Super Bowl history in the next one, and has made peace with how that game ended. He joins Brian, Cooper, and Kenny to break down life on the Pro Athlete Golf Tour—where Hall of Famers from every sport compete for real prize money—and what Jack Nicklaus told the football players about why the game will never come naturally to them. Plus: his 3.2 handicap, his indoor golf facility in Washington, and his dream round with

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00:48:47

Andy "David Wallace" Buckley on his Linsanity Run,...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/06/01

Andy Buckley, David Wallace from The Office, joins Brian, Cooper, and Kenny live at SiriusXM in Hollywood. Andy breaks down his Linsanity six weeks as a junior golfer that landed him at Stanford, qualifying for the U.S. Amateur on a 20-foot putt on the final hole, and why he quietly holds the distinction of being the only guy in the room who's played in a major. Andy also tells the full story of how he got cast on The Office after years away from acting and the time Tiger Woods ignored him

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00:38:47

ReRelease: Jason Bateman Talks About Unsolicited...

We Need A Fourth ·

2026/05/25

SmartLess Presents: We Need A Fourth. Welcome to We Need A Fourth, hosted by Brian Baumgartner, Cooper Manning and Kenny Mayne. This is a comedy about how much our hosts and guests both love, and sometimes hate, golf. Episode 2--and they said it wouldn't last! We are delighted to welcome golfer and Smartless OG Jason Bateman to help us understand how children affect your handicap, unsolicited swing advice, and the fastest way to get a new iPhone. Follow @jasonbateman and watch Black Rabbit on

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