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Make Music: Song Production, Marketing, Indie Artist Tips, Advice, Music Industry, Song Exploder

Make Music: Song Production, Marketing is the podcast for indie musicians, songwriters, and producers who want to create professional music and actually get it heard. Learn songwriting, recording, mixing, mastering, and DIY production tips alongside powerful strategies for promotion, Spotify growth, playlist pitching, and social media marketing. Hosted by three artists with a combined 550k+ monthly Spotify listeners, this show gives you proven tools to make better songs and grow your career.

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00:18:41

Our Biggest Regrets as Independent Music Artists...

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2026/04/06

In this episode, we get honest about our biggest regrets as independent music artists—and how you can avoid them.Looking back, a lot of it comes down to lack of confidence and waiting too long to fully commit. We talk about how hesitation, second-guessing, and playing it safe can quietly hold you back and what happens when you finally decide to go all in on your music.If you’re an indie artist trying to build momentum, this episode is a reminder to trust yourself, take action, and stop delaying the

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00:14:38

How to Make Music Faster

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2026/04/03

In this episode, we break down simple, practical ways to speed up your workflow so you can finish more songs and stay creative.We talk about why having production templates can save you hours, how to build a go-to production palette so you’re not starting from scratch every time, and the small workflow tweaks that add up to big time savings. The goal isn’t rushing—it’s removing friction so you can stay in the creative zone. If you’re an independent artist or producer looking to improve your workflow

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00:13:29

If We Started Over as Independent Music Artists in...

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2026/04/01

If we were starting over as independent artists in 2026, what would we do differently? In this episode, we break down the moves we’d make to grow faster in today’s music landscape.We’d focus heavily on great songwriting, because no strategy beats a song that truly connects. We'd also focus on building a deep, engaged fan base—not just chasing streams, but creating real listeners who stick around. We also talk about why we’d collaborate more and actively seek feedback, instead of trying to do

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00:15:40

Refining Your Production Pallet Will Enhance Your Music

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2026/03/30

Want your music to stand out in a crowded, algorithm-driven world? In this episode, we explore how refining your production palette can elevate your sound, spark creativity, and help you stay unique as an artist.It’s easy to fall into repetitive habits—same sounds, same plugins, same arrangements. But the artists who grow are the ones who keep expanding their production toolkit and staying curious. By introducing new textures, instruments, and techniques, you can keep exploration alive and create

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00:16:05

How to Adapt to Changing Algorithms

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2026/03/27

How do you grow your music career when algorithms keep changing? In this episode, we break down exactly how to adapt to changing algorithms on platforms like Spotify, TikTok, and beyond—without chasing every trend.As streaming and social platforms evolve (especially with the rise of AI-generated content), one thing is becoming clear: great songs and real fan engagement matter more than ever. The artists who win aren’t just posting more—they’re building deeper connections.We dive into:Why focusing

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00:15:43

Has the Spotify Algorithm Changed?

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2026/03/25

Has the Spotify algorithm changed in 2026? In this episode, we break down a growing theory among independent artists and producers: Spotify may be shifting its algorithm to prioritize song quality over quantity.For years, consistent releases and high output have been key to triggering the Spotify algorithm. But with the recent explosion of AI-generated music flooding streaming platforms, the landscape may be evolving. Is Spotify now rewarding engagement, retention, and listener satisfaction more

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00:20:24

What is Digital Touring?

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2026/03/23

In this episode, we explore the concept of digital touring—a strategy where artists grow fanbases in specific locations online before ever stepping on stage. We talk about how some artists collaborate with musicians who already have strong followings in certain cities, releasing songs together to tap into those local audiences. Then, when it’s time to tour, they’re not playing to strangers—they’re performing for listeners who already know their music.

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00:20:43

Is Signing to a Label Worth It?

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2026/03/20

In this episode, we break down the realities of label deals and why they may not be the best path for most independent artists. We’ll talk about how label contracts really work, why many artists give up more control than they expect, and how the financial side of deals can be far less appealing than they appear on the surface. More importantly, we explore how modern artists can build sustainable careers without relying on a label—using direct fan relationships, independent releases, and smart

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00:18:34

Why Writer's Round Are a Great Place to Network

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2026/03/18

In this episode, Will shares his recent experience participating in a writer's round and how he was able to both network and earn some income.

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00:25:17

Part 2: If Streaming Dies, What's Next?

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2026/03/16

In this episode, we continue talking about whether or not streaming will last and strategies that could be implemented to not go out with it.

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00:19:41

If Streaming Dies, What's Next?

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2026/03/13

In this episode, we discuss if streaming will die and whether or not we're worried about this. Thanks for listening!

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00:19:07

Get Wider Mixes With This Technique

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2026/03/11

In this episode, you'll learn how to create space by strategically shaping the low mids so that key elements like vocals, bass, and lead instruments stay clear in the center while supporting elements add width around them. We’ll talk about why contrast between instruments is essential, how subtle EQ moves can dramatically improve stereo width, and how to keep your mix full without it becoming cluttered.

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00:26:44

Our Evolving Philosophies on AI Generated Music

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2026/03/06

AI is changing music fast—and our thoughts on it are changing too. In this episode, we unpack our evolving philosophies on AI-generated music, from early skepticism to more nuanced perspectives. We discuss the creative possibilities, ethical concerns, and practical realities of using AI tools in songwriting and production, especially for independent artists. Is AI a threat to artistry, a powerful creative assistant, or something in between? Whether you’re curious, cautious, or already experimenting

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00:16:57

Should Indie Artists Use Suno?

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2026/03/04

In this episode, we tackle a hot topic in the music world: should independent artists use Suno, the AI-driven music generator, as part of their creative process? We break down what Suno is, how it helps musicians quickly generate song ideas, demos, background tracks, and inspiration without needing traditional production tools, and why many indie artists enjoy experimenting with it.

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00:29:18

How Bailey Gillen (The Figs) Collabed With Forest Frank

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2026/03/02

In this episode, we have a conversation with Bailey Gillen from The Figs and talked about his artist journey that led to a massive collaboration with Forest Frank on the song "Lemonade".

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00:15:03

Do You Need to be Famous to Make it in Music?

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2026/02/27

Can you succeed in the music industry without being a household name? In this episode, we explore what it really takes to make it as a musician, from building a loyal fanbase and leveraging online platforms, streaming, and social media, to honing your craft and collaborating with the right mentors. We break down the myths around fame, share practical strategies for independent artists, and reveal how artists can thrive without ever topping the charts. Whether you’re an aspiring musician or a

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00:24:26

Comparing William Toll's First and Most Recent Song...

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2026/02/25

In this episode, we break down William Toll’s musical journey by comparing his very first song production with his latest release. We analyze changes in songwriting, production techniques, mixing, and overall sound, highlighting the growth and experimentation that have shaped his music. Whether you’re an aspiring musician, producer, or simply a fan, this episode offers valuable insights into how artists refine their craft, embrace new tools, and develop their unique style over time. Don’t miss this

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00:20:47

The Best Way to Level Up Your Craft as an Artist

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2026/02/23

Looking to take your artistic skills to the next level? In this episode, we dive into the most effective ways artists can grow and improve their craft. From coaching with the best mentors to leveraging online courses, video tutorials, and digital resources, we cover everything you need to accelerate your learning and boost your creative career. Discover practical tips for finding the right guidance, staying motivated, and mastering techniques that will make your art stand out. Whether you’re a

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00:16:59

How to Improve Your Production by Using Reference Tracks

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2026/02/20

Want your music to sound more polished and professional? In this episode, we break down the power of reference tracks and how they can help you level up your production. Learn how to analyze tones, mixes, arrangements, and dynamics from songs you love—and apply those insights to your own tracks. Perfect for producers and songwriters looking to sharpen their ear and take their music to the next level.

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00:23:13

Our First Songs vs Our Most Recent Songs

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2026/02/18

Ever wondered how far a songwriter can come? In this episode, we take a trip down memory lane and share our very first songs alongside our most recent tracks. Hear the growth, the mistakes, the breakthroughs, and the moments that shaped our sound. Whether you’re just starting out or deep in your songwriting journey, get inspired by our evolution and see what’s possible when you keep creating.

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