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The Legal Burnouts

Kate Bridal, Josey Hoff, and Rhia Batchelder

Join former nonprofit attorney Kate Bridal, former paralegal Josey Hoff, and former BigLaw attorney Rhia Batchelder as they get real about all the stuff that leads to burnout in the legal industry and beyond. Through honest, good-humored conversations with each other and their guests, Kate, Josey, and Rhia offer solutions, laugh to keep from crying, and normalize the conversation around burnout.If you"re interested in booking Rhia and/or Kate to speak at your company, firm, or conference, send an

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Episode 29. Goodbye (For Now)

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2025/02/20

This will be our final episode (for now).Between busy schedules and Kate moving in a different career direction, she and Rhia made the difficult decision to let the podcast go. They discuss the decision in detail in the episode, but it wasn't one that was made lightly. We’ve absolutely loved highlighting your stories, speaking with our amazing guests, and helping people feel less alone in their burnout journeys! But making an independent podcast is a lot of work that sadly isn't sustainable

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Episode 28. Pivots and Recovery With Reshma Saujani,...

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2024/06/20

We’re ending Season 2 with a bang!In this episode, Kate and Rhia are joined by Reshma Saujani, leading activist and the founder of Girls Who Code and Moms First, formerly Marshall Plan for Moms. Reshma has spent more than a decade building movements to fight for women and girls’ economic empowerment, most recently advocating for policies to support moms impacted by the pandemic. She is also the author of the international bestseller Brave, Not Perfect, and her influential TED talk, “Teac...

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Episode 27. Farewell Josey and Career Clarity

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2024/06/12

It’s Josey’s last episode as co-host of The Legal Burnouts, so Kate and Rhia bid her a fond farewell and learn more about why she’s leaving and her next steps.Josey opens up about her current burnout, which stems mainly from physical injuries she sustained over a year ago. Josey didn’t address the injuries at the time they happened due to a combination of existing, unaddressed burnout and her impulse to overwork. However, she recently took the brave step to request leave, to give herself...

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Episode 26. Creating Your Own Spaces With Faridat...

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2024/06/05

This week, Kate and Rhia are joined by Rhia’s law school classmate Faridat Arogundade, a former Biglaw attorney who has created her own high-quality, plus-sized fashion line, Ìfẹ́mi. Faridat honestly and insightfully discusses her experience as a plus-sized Black woman in Biglaw and society in general. In her 8 years as a Biglaw attorney, Faridat experienced discrimination based on size, race, and culture. From not getting cold-called because of her name, to being short-change...

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Episode 26. Changing Lanes With Kyle Kelly

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2024/05/22

In Kate and Josey’s final guest interview together, they talk with the man who inspired them to start The Legal Burnouts, Kyle Kelly. Kyle, a former digital forensics professional, worked at tiny companies like Salesforce and Coinbase before deciding to break off and create his own legal technology. He is now the CEO and founder of Zubu, the world’s first native genAI legal holds solution.Kyle opens up about the challenges he’s faced in entrepreneurship: Pivoting away from an idea he’d had fo...

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Episode 25. Pregnancy, Parenting, and...

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2024/05/08

This week, Rhia and Kate speak to Megan Senese, cofounder of Stage, a women-owned legal marketing and business development firm that offers- among many other services- a free program to support working parents before and after parental leave. This program, called Courderoy, was partially inspired by Megan’s previous experience hiding her pregnancy from her firm for SIX MONTHS. Though nobody told Megan she had to hide her pregnancy, there were plenty of cultural indicators that she s...

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Episode 23. Infertility with Emily Petrich

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2024/04/24

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Episode 22. Crossover Episode With The Newfangled Lawyer

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2024/04/17

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Episode 21. The Enneagram With Enneagram Ashton

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2024/04/10

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Episode 20. Triggers and Glimmers With Paula Liub

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2024/03/27

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Episode 19. Nonlegal Lawyers With ex judicata

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2024/03/20

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Episode 18. DEI Layoffs and That Alabama IVF Decision

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2024/03/13

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Episode 17. Unlearning Toxic Perfectionism With Coach...

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2024/02/28

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Episode 16. Trans Rights, Elections, and Job Hunts,...

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2024/02/14

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Episode 15. Welcome Back, Barbie!

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2024/02/07

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Episode 14. Bonus Episode: Kate and Josey Play the...

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2023/11/03

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Episode 13. Season 1 Wrap Up With Josey and Kate

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2023/10/11

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Episode 12. Unspoken Rules With Chloe Diaz

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2023/10/04

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42:08

Episode 11. The Episode That Almost Wasn't With Henry...

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2023/09/27

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54:10

Episode 10. Being Kind to Yourself With Anti-Burnout...

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2023/09/20

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