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The Climate Gap

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The Climate Gap sits at the intersection of climate tech and media. We learn from entrepreneurs, industry leaders, and investors driving meaningful change, and share their stories with a global audience.We produce content across four channels:- Quick Cuts: Short episodes. Sharp insights. No filter.- Pop-Up: Conversations live from the floor.- The Down Low with Joe: Insider views and industry shifts.- Into the Weeds: Where complexity meets clarity.The Climate Gap is powered by Element Six. Element

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14:46

The Gap Between FM Tech and Real Outcomes

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2026/01/09

Recorded live at FutureBuilt, Steve Hamby joins Joe Aamidor (Aamidor Consulting) and Lewis Martin (Element Six) to talk about what actually happens when facilities and real estate teams try to deploy technology at scale.Steve has spent his career working across facilities technology, IoT, and connected solutions. He has advised operators, vendors, and industry groups on how technology is adopted, where it breaks down, and why outcomes often lag behind capability.This conversation focuses on the gap

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23:10

Why Real Estate Tech Still Struggles to Deliver Real...

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2026/01/09

In this episode of the DLWJ, we’re joined by Maureen Ehrenberg, one of the most respected leaders in the global built environment.Maureen currently serves as Executive Managing Director of Strategic Growth and Solutions Development at Sireas Global Real Estate Advisors and is President Elect of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) for 2026. Her career spans decades of executive leadership at organisations like WeWork, JLL, CBRE and Grubb & Ellis, and she’s a recognised authority

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24:55

If your EMS creates more alerts than actions, you...

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2025/12/17

If your EMS creates more alerts than actions, you don’t have a data problem. You have a decision problem.Ryan Adelman, CEO of Phoenix Energy Technologies, explains why.Energy management systems promise visibility and control. In reality, many operators are overwhelmed by alarms, managing massive multi-site portfolios with small teams and data they do not always trust.In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Ryan Adelman, CEO of Phoenix Energy Technologies, to unpack

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47:51

Market Updates With Joe

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2025/12/16

In this market update episode, Lewis Martin is joined by analyst Joe Aamidor to break down what’s really happening across smart buildings, energy management, and OEM digital strategy.They dive into Siemens’ recent moves around Brightly, Setmetrics and XOI, and why this signals a deeper structural shift rather than a one-off acquisition. Joe explains how CMMS platforms are becoming a critical control layer, why asset intelligence and energy analytics are converging, and how OEMs are quietly scaling

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1:05:04

Autonomous Buildings Are Closer Than You Think

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2025/12/11

AI in buildings is having its breakout moment.But most of what we see today is still surface-level. Chatbots on top of legacy systems. Optimisers tweaking setpoints. Dashboards that look new, but run on the same foundations we’ve had for decades.In this episode, Lewis and Joe sit down with Troy Harvey, Co-Founder & CEO of PassiveLogic, to unpack a very different view of the future: fully autonomous buildings powered by actionable AI, generative control models, and real-time digital twins that

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28:06

Why Net Zero Gets Stuck Between Policy and Practice |...

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2025/12/11

Net zero sounds simple in press releases, but within real organisations, it becomes far more complex.Reporting cycles absorb time, voluntary targets lose momentum, and teams often end up counting carbon instead of cutting it.In this episode of Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Joel Cesare, who has lived net zero from almost every angle. He helped deliver Santa Monica’s net zero ordinance, led sustainability at Skanska, and ran Google’s Absolute Zero program before joining the executive team at

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58:04

Smart Building Reality Check: how AI is really...

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2025/12/05

AI won’t transform facility management with moonshots, it’ll transform it with thousands of tiny wins.McKesson’s Drew DePriest joins The Down Low with Joe to break down what AI actually looks like inside a Fortune 10 real estate organisation, far from the hype, and deeply rooted in the realities of FM, data, and operations.Most AI conversations in smart buildings revolve around flashy pilots, giant platforms, or “intelligent buildings” that never escape the pitch deck.Drew shares a very different

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44:55

From Engineer to Executive: Tyler Smith on Building...

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2025/12/03

In this In The Weeds episode of The Climate GAP, Lewis sits down with Tyler Smith, Vice President of Global Lifecycle Solutions at Johnson Controls. Tyler is one of the most experienced voices driving the healthy buildings movement, and his 20-year career tells the story of an industry in transformation.From engineering grad to executive, his journey tracks directly with the evolution of building tech. Smart systems. Indoor air quality. Fault detection. Decarbonisation. And now, AI.In this

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59:05

Buildings as Grid Assets. The New Power Players.

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2025/11/24

Buildings aren’t just consuming energy.They’re becoming part of the grid.In this panel edition of The Down Low with Joe, we bring together three leaders who are reshaping how distributed energy resources (DERs) and virtual power plants actually work at scale:Courtney Blodgett — Co-Founder, EdoFocused on building-level load flexibility, automated pre-cooling/pre-heating, and unlocking value with minimal impact on occupants.Brendan Reed — VP Growth, SparkfundDriving utility-scale DER deployment,

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56:00

Building Smart Companies, Not Just Smart Buildings

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2025/11/20

Smart buildings aren’t broken.. their data is.From inconsistent BAS naming to years of legacy config, most buildings struggle not because they lack sensors, but because the underlying data model is impossible to trust.In this episode of The Down Low with Joe, Nick Gayeski, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Clockworks, breaks down what a decade of FDD deployments has taught him about data quality, ontologies, and why XETO and ontologies matter more than any dashboard or AI feature.We discuss:• Why bespoke

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25:01

The weakest link in smart buildings isn't what you...

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2025/11/17

Smart buildings depend on data, but the operational networks carrying that data are often the weakest and most overlooked part of the entire system.In this episode of Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Andrew Rodgers, Co-Founder of ACE IoT Solutions, to expose the hidden fragility inside OT networks and explain how it impacts analytics, energy optimisation, controls integration and digital building projects.Andrew shares insights from his background in industrial automation, IT and software, and

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37:27

Why Carbon Credits Have a Bad Reputation

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2025/11/17

Carbon credits are confusing until you anchor them in data.Most portfolios juggle policy, paperwork, and risk while hoping the math adds up. Ashley Sarauer breaks it down. She explains how to turn real building upgrades into verified, bankable carbon credits that buyers trust and owners can model into cash flow.In this episode of The Down Low with Joe, Ashley shares what makes a carbon credit high-quality, why building data beats guesswork, and how a platform approach can transition projects from

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43:53

The Missing Link Between the Grid and Buildings

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2025/11/12

Energy data shouldn’t be this hard to get, but across 10,000+ utilities, it still is.In this episode of The Down Low with Joe, Udit Garg, SVP of R&D at Arcadia, joins Joe Aamidor and Lewis Martin to unpack how the “Plaid for Energy” is finally making energy data usable.. at scale.Udit explains why every clean energy or smart building solution depends on the same two things: usage and rates. He shares how Arcadia’s acquisitions of Urjanet and Genability are powering a unified data platform for

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15:21

Rethinking Smart Building Intelligence with Gary...

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2025/11/12

In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Gary Chance, CEO of Nantum AI, to explore how AI and human operators can work together to transform building data into measurable, portfolio-wide outcomes.Every year, new technologies promise to revolutionize the real estate industry. Every year, most of them fail to stick. Gary explains why adoption—not technology—is the most challenging part of innovation and how operators can transition from awareness to action.We dig

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49:55

Connecting the Disconnect: Merging CRE and FM Tech

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2025/11/07

From silos to systems: in this bonus episode of The Down Low with Joe, Lewis and Joe sit down with Richard Reyes, Digital Strategy Lead at ConnexFM and CEO & Executive Director of OSCRE International, to unpack how the built world finally starts speaking a common language.Richard shares how his journey from enterprise architecture, data science, and financial services led him into the built environment, and why he now sees his role as a “bridge builder” between CREtech and FM tech. Together,

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12:36

Digital Spin or Digital Twin with Elisa Rönkä,...

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2025/11/04

“If your digital twin can’t prove value in 90 days, it’s not a product, it’s a demo. Elisa Rönkä of Johnson Controls shares what makes digital twins pay back fast.”Most digital twins look great on a screen but collapse under CFO scrutiny.They model every pipe, point, and person in the building yet still fail to show a single verified saving.In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Elisa Rönkä, who leads the digital business for Johnson Controls across EMEA, to

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51:15

The Human Side of Smart Buildings

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2025/10/29

The smartest buildings don’t just run on data — they run on people.From intern to Operations Manager, Reed Powell has spent his career helping MacDonald-Miller Facility Solutions evolve from a regional mechanical contractor into a leader in smart building service and energy innovation.In this episode of The Climate GAP: Quick Cuts, Reed shares how the company balances cutting-edge technology with the craft, mentorship, and trust that define lasting performance.We discuss:How sustainability became

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52:33

DLWJ: How WSP Is Redefining Smart Buildings

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2025/10/29

Smart buildings aren’t about gadgets — they’re about outcomes.From “digital twin” hype to fragmented vendor promises, owners are often told their buildings are intelligent when they’re really just connected.In this episode of The Down Low with Joe, Jay Wratten, Global Smart Places Lead at WSP, unpacks what true digital transformation looks like at enterprise scale — and why success starts with understanding the problem, not the platform.We discuss:Why most smart building strategies fail before they

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16:43

AI won’t fix your building if your data is scattered...

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2025/10/28

AI won’t fix your building if your data is scattered.Work orders in one tool, cleaning in another, room booking in a third, BMS alarms in a fourth. AI can’t infer what it can’t see.In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki speaks with Brett Fisher, Senior Director at ServiceNow, who is a leader in the Workplace Platform Stack. Together, they get practical about what must live in your platform layer, how to model context across assets, people, and spaces, and which integrations move

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16:17

Direct vs. Channel with Tim Miscovich, Chief...

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2025/10/20

In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Timothy Miscovich, Chief Commercial Officer at wtec, to unpack one of the biggest go-to-market decisions in smart buildings and climate tech:Do you scale through partners, or do you build direct?Tim has built teams and channels across 30 countries, leading wtec’s smart lighting and sensor business through direct, channel, and hybrid models. His take is refreshingly grounded. There is no easy button. Markets are different

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