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The Climate Gap

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The Climate Gap sits at the intersection of climate tech and media. We learn from entrepreneurs, industry leaders, and investors driving meaningful change, and share their stories with a global audience.We produce content across four channels:- Quick Cuts: Short episodes. Sharp insights. No filter.- Pop-Up: Conversations live from the floor.- The Down Low with Joe: Insider views and industry shifts.- Into the Weeds: Where complexity meets clarity.The Climate Gap is powered by Element Six. Element

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18:57

Beyond the Dashboard with Derek John Mullassery

The Climate Gap ·

2026/02/25

Most smart building systems are excellent at telling you what’s wrong.Far fewer are designed to change what happens next.In this episode of Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Derek John Mullassery (COO, CopperTree Analytics) to explore the shift from fault detection and diagnostics (FDD) to automated action inside commercial buildings. Fault detection is no longer novel. Dashboards and alarms are everywhere. The real constraint in modern building automation is execution.Derek explains how

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22:21

Cloud BMS: The Next Frontier or Just Another...

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2026/02/24

For years, building management systems have lived on-premise. Local servers. Mechanical rooms. Site-by-site maintenance.But as HVAC, lighting, and access control become increasingly IP-connected, the conversation around Cloud BMS is accelerating.In this episode of Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Dhaval Shah, VP and Head of Product, Software and Services Portfolio for Digital Buildings at Schneider Electric, to unpack what Cloud BMS actually means and whether it’s becoming an operational

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18:48

Digital Twins that Drive Decisions: Speed to Value,...

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2026/02/16

Digital twins have been in the smart building conversation for more than a decade. What is changing now is the expectation.In this Climate Gap Quick Cuts episode, Ben Muwoki sits down with Rick Szcodronski, Chief Product Officer at Willow, to unpack how digital twins are evolving from visualisation and data layers into decision-making platforms that operators can actually trust and use.This conversation covers what separates digital twin projects that scale from those that stall, why speed to value

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20:18

Why is smart building deployment still so slow,...

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2026/02/12

In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Deepinder Singh, Founder and CEO of 75F, to unpack a problem many facility operators already understand: the issue is not data. It is deployment.While enterprise towers often receive bespoke engineering attention, the mid-market, small, and midsize buildings where most people actually work face a different challenge. Equipment diversity, inconsistent standards, retrofit history, and fragmented systems make repeatability

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16:06

Recurring Revenue, Real-World Results – Closing the...

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2026/02/09

Recurring Revenue, Real-World Results – Closing the Post-Sale GapRecurring revenue models are everywhere. But recurring value is still where many subscription, SaaS, and IoT businesses struggle.In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Beth Skierski, founder of EGS Solutions, to explore why Customer Success often falls short and how companies can close the post-sale gap that quietly drives churn.Across climate tech, smart buildings, and enterprise SaaS, many teams

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23:27

Brownfield to Boardroom: How to Make Smart Building...

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2026/02/04

Many “smart building” conversations still assume a clean slate at the start.New buildings, new systems, new budgets.That’s not how it usually plays out.Most of the buildings that will still be in use over the coming decades already exist today. And many of them were never designed for modern connectivity, analytics, or decarbonisation.In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Peter Rake to talk about where real progress actually happens: brownfield portfolios.The

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41:07

What’s Actually Broken And How We Fix It

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2026/02/04

In this episode of the Down Low with Joe, Lewis & Joe sit down with Ted Atwood at FutureBuilt.Ted has spent decades at the forefront of energy compliance, sustainability, and climate technology, building, scaling, and ultimately exiting a major platform in the space. Today, he advises companies across energy, real estate, and climate tech on what actually drives outcomes.We go deep on:What’s fundamentally broken in the built environment, and why progress feels slowThe biggest false beliefs

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45:07

Understanding Utility grade AI at scale with...

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2026/01/13

If your demand response program looks good on paper but fails under scrutiny, you don’t have a performance problem. You have a measurement problem.Ana-Paula Issa, CEO of Encycle, explains why.Utilities are offering more incentives than ever. AI, analytics, and advanced controls are being deployed across portfolios.And yet many operators still miss demand response targets, struggle to defend savings to finance, or confuse demand response with demand management.In this episode of The Climate Gap:

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14:46

The Gap Between FM Tech and Real Outcomes

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2026/01/09

Recorded live at FutureBuilt, Steve Hamby joins Joe Aamidor (Aamidor Consulting) and Lewis Martin (Element Six) to talk about what actually happens when facilities and real estate teams try to deploy technology at scale.Steve has spent his career working across facilities technology, IoT, and connected solutions. He has advised operators, vendors, and industry groups on how technology is adopted, where it breaks down, and why outcomes often lag behind capability.This conversation focuses on the gap

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23:10

Why Real Estate Tech Still Struggles to Deliver Real...

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2026/01/09

In this episode of the DLWJ, we’re joined by Maureen Ehrenberg, one of the most respected leaders in the global built environment.Maureen currently serves as Executive Managing Director of Strategic Growth and Solutions Development at Sireas Global Real Estate Advisors and is President Elect of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) for 2026. Her career spans decades of executive leadership at organisations like WeWork, JLL, CBRE and Grubb & Ellis, and she’s a recognised authority

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24:55

If your EMS creates more alerts than actions, you...

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2025/12/17

If your EMS creates more alerts than actions, you don’t have a data problem. You have a decision problem.Ryan Adelman, CEO of Phoenix Energy Technologies, explains why.Energy management systems promise visibility and control. In reality, many operators are overwhelmed by alarms, managing massive multi-site portfolios with small teams and data they do not always trust.In this episode of The Climate Gap: Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Ryan Adelman, CEO of Phoenix Energy Technologies, to unpack

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47:51

Market Updates With Joe

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2025/12/16

In this market update episode, Lewis Martin is joined by analyst Joe Aamidor to break down what’s really happening across smart buildings, energy management, and OEM digital strategy.They dive into Siemens’ recent moves around Brightly, Setmetrics and XOI, and why this signals a deeper structural shift rather than a one-off acquisition. Joe explains how CMMS platforms are becoming a critical control layer, why asset intelligence and energy analytics are converging, and how OEMs are quietly scaling

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1:05:04

Autonomous Buildings Are Closer Than You Think

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2025/12/11

AI in buildings is having its breakout moment.But most of what we see today is still surface-level. Chatbots on top of legacy systems. Optimisers tweaking setpoints. Dashboards that look new, but run on the same foundations we’ve had for decades.In this episode, Lewis and Joe sit down with Troy Harvey, Co-Founder & CEO of PassiveLogic, to unpack a very different view of the future: fully autonomous buildings powered by actionable AI, generative control models, and real-time digital twins that

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28:06

Why Net Zero Gets Stuck Between Policy and Practice |...

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2025/12/11

Net zero sounds simple in press releases, but within real organisations, it becomes far more complex.Reporting cycles absorb time, voluntary targets lose momentum, and teams often end up counting carbon instead of cutting it.In this episode of Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Joel Cesare, who has lived net zero from almost every angle. He helped deliver Santa Monica’s net zero ordinance, led sustainability at Skanska, and ran Google’s Absolute Zero program before joining the executive team at

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58:04

Smart Building Reality Check: how AI is really...

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2025/12/05

AI won’t transform facility management with moonshots, it’ll transform it with thousands of tiny wins.McKesson’s Drew DePriest joins The Down Low with Joe to break down what AI actually looks like inside a Fortune 10 real estate organisation, far from the hype, and deeply rooted in the realities of FM, data, and operations.Most AI conversations in smart buildings revolve around flashy pilots, giant platforms, or “intelligent buildings” that never escape the pitch deck.Drew shares a very different

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44:55

From Engineer to Executive: Tyler Smith on Building...

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2025/12/03

In this In The Weeds episode of The Climate GAP, Lewis sits down with Tyler Smith, Vice President of Global Lifecycle Solutions at Johnson Controls. Tyler is one of the most experienced voices driving the healthy buildings movement, and his 20-year career tells the story of an industry in transformation.From engineering grad to executive, his journey tracks directly with the evolution of building tech. Smart systems. Indoor air quality. Fault detection. Decarbonisation. And now, AI.In this

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59:05

Buildings as Grid Assets. The New Power Players.

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2025/11/24

Buildings aren’t just consuming energy.They’re becoming part of the grid.In this panel edition of The Down Low with Joe, we bring together three leaders who are reshaping how distributed energy resources (DERs) and virtual power plants actually work at scale:Courtney Blodgett — Co-Founder, EdoFocused on building-level load flexibility, automated pre-cooling/pre-heating, and unlocking value with minimal impact on occupants.Brendan Reed — VP Growth, SparkfundDriving utility-scale DER deployment,

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56:00

Building Smart Companies, Not Just Smart Buildings

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2025/11/20

Smart buildings aren’t broken.. their data is.From inconsistent BAS naming to years of legacy config, most buildings struggle not because they lack sensors, but because the underlying data model is impossible to trust.In this episode of The Down Low with Joe, Nick Gayeski, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Clockworks, breaks down what a decade of FDD deployments has taught him about data quality, ontologies, and why XETO and ontologies matter more than any dashboard or AI feature.We discuss:• Why bespoke

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25:01

The weakest link in smart buildings isn't what you...

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2025/11/17

Smart buildings depend on data, but the operational networks carrying that data are often the weakest and most overlooked part of the entire system.In this episode of Quick Cuts, Ben Muwoki sits down with Andrew Rodgers, Co-Founder of ACE IoT Solutions, to expose the hidden fragility inside OT networks and explain how it impacts analytics, energy optimisation, controls integration and digital building projects.Andrew shares insights from his background in industrial automation, IT and software, and

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37:27

Why Carbon Credits Have a Bad Reputation

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2025/11/17

Carbon credits are confusing until you anchor them in data.Most portfolios juggle policy, paperwork, and risk while hoping the math adds up. Ashley Sarauer breaks it down. She explains how to turn real building upgrades into verified, bankable carbon credits that buyers trust and owners can model into cash flow.In this episode of The Down Low with Joe, Ashley shares what makes a carbon credit high-quality, why building data beats guesswork, and how a platform approach can transition projects from

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