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Out and Back

Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter

Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson are professional marathoners chasing fast times and big goals on the roads. Training out of Flagstaff, Arizona, they’ve got plenty of stories from the grind of big mileage, the chaos of race travel, the highs and lows of racing on the world stage and the random stuff that happens between workouts. With a passion for storytelling, running culture, and building community, Rory and Jacob bring listeners behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. Training talk with a

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01:18:03

#23 Brady Holmer - What really matters when it comes...

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2026/02/08

Check out our links below!We welcomed back our first-ever returning guest, Brady Holmer, for a wide-ranging conversation on performance, recovery, and the details that actually move the needle.We cover everything from Diet Coke and caffeine’s role in performance to what truly matters for sleep and recovery—including optimal sleep routines, practical sleep hygiene tips, and simple adjustments athletes can make right away. Brady breaks down key recovery and readiness metrics like HRV, respiratory

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00:48:25

#22 - Mailbag, Boston Marathon Fields, Training Updates

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2026/02/01

Please give the podcast a follow, a 5 star review, and share with a friend with you enjoyed today's episde. Today Rory and Jacob break down the Boston Marathon elite fields, give an update on their training, and answer some loyal listener questions.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website

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00:55:30

#21 Eric Floberg - Floberg Runs, Dad Strength,...

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2026/01/25

Eric's InstagramEric's Youtube⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteSummaryIn this episode, Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson sit down with Eric Floberg, a unique figure in the running community known for his engaging YouTube content and inspiring journey in the sport. They discuss Eric's late start in running, his experiences with marathons, the intersection of running and business, and the importance of

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00:40:59

#20 Josh Hoey - Indoor 600 World Record, New...

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2026/01/18

In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, host Jacob Thomson and co-host Chris Striegel welcome elite 800-meter runner Josh Hoey. They discuss Josh's recent world record in the 600 meters, his training methods, and the importance of speed endurance. Josh shares insights into his upcoming races, adjustments to his training schedule, and the significance of altitude training in Flagstaff. The conversation also touches on the evolution of racing strategies in the 800 meters, the impact of

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00:42:33

#19 - Canadian Record, Rory runs 59:49 at the Houston...

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2026/01/13

⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteIn this episode of the Out and Back podcast, Rory Linkletter shares his experience of breaking the Canadian half marathon record. He discusses the immediate aftermath of the race, including drug testing and media obligations, and reflects on the race dynamics, training strategies, and the importance of competition. Rory emphasizes the significance of community support

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00:57:01

#18 - Houston Marathon Preview, What's in & What's...

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2026/01/08

⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website

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00:45:05

#17 JP Flavin - Marathon Project Champion, Brooks...

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2026/01/02

⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteWe're kicking off 2026 with a special New Year's Day episode featuring guest host John Gay from the Shakeout Podcast for a conversation with recently crowned The Marathon Project champion JP Flavin, fresh off his win and new lifetime best of 2:09:18. The pros-only event was held in Chandler, Arizona last week.Flavin, a member of the Michigan-based Brooks

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01:09:53

#16 Between Reps with Chris - Training Updates, most...

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2025/12/21

Join Jacob, Rory, and Chris as they dive into a good ole banter style episode that feels like a run with friends. From debating the most overrated running trends to sharing outrageous hot takes, this episode is packed with laughs and unexpected insights. Don't miss out on the fun—tune in and let us know if you agree with our spicy opinions! ⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website

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00:43:56

#15 Joe Whelan - 6 marathons in 1 year, 2:09 at CIM

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2025/12/14

⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website

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00:57:46

#14 Johannes Motschmann - 140 mile weeks, 2:10...

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2025/12/09

Please hit the follow and subscribe button and leave us a rating!⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website

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00:33:39

#13 - CIM & US Champs Preview, Taper Time, Key...

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2025/12/01

If you enjoyed this episode - please give us a review and follow!Today we discuss the upcoming California International Marathon (CIM), which is also the USATF Marathon Championships. Go through Jacob's build up, race strategy, and expectations for the competition. We delve into tapering, carb loading, and fueling strategies. We also talk about the rest of the competitive field at CIM. The conversation highlights the excitement surrounding marathon racing and the camaraderie among athletes as

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00:46:27

#12 Mica Rivera Wood - Building Instagram and Youtube...

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2025/11/23

If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a follow and share it with a friend!Mica Rivera Wood discusses balancing being a creator and an elite runner, her decision to transition from track to marathon running. She reflects on her initial fears and the excitement she feels about taking on this new challenge. Mica shares her thoughts on her potential in both track and marathon running, emphasizing the joy of embracing new experiences in her athletic journey.The Woodsrun InstagramMica's

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00:52:10

#11 Brady Holmer - Vo2 Max, How to Increase Volume...

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2025/11/17

Please give us a follow at the links below and share with a friend. Today we chat with Brady Holmer. This was a very science heavy episode. We cover Vo2 Max training in marathons, how to increase volume, marathon fueling, heat training for performance, Brady's personal goals for the upcoming CIM race and more.Follow Brady:SubstackTwitter⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website

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00:54:06

#10 Ran to Japan - Why is Japan so deep in the...

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2025/11/09

Please give us a follow, share this episode with a friend, and check out our socials!Join the nearly 100k subs Jake has on YouTube here:⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteToday are joined by Jake Bearclough, better know as Ran to Japan. We explore the cultural differences in running training between Japanese and American runners, find our why Japan is so good at the marathon, highlight the differences

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00:37:59

#9 - Biya Simbassa, 2:06 Marathoner, Top American...

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2025/11/01

Please do us a massive favor and like, rate, and share the podcast if you enjoy it!Biya is a former teammate and training partner of both Jacob and Rory. We got to chat with Biya about his new coaching set up with Ian Carter and the workouts that lead to his 2:06 Marathon in Valencia last year. We touch on his fueling and race strategies. We chat about the competition in New York City Marathon and what Biya has done to prepare for the course.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s

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00:52:14

#8 - Reed Fischer - Tinman Elite's new focus, New...

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2025/10/26

Give us a follow and join us on social media if you enjoyed today's episode.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteToday on the Out and Back podcast, we sat down with professional marathon runner Reed Fischer. We talked about Reed bouncing off the World Championships to race the New York City Marathon. We covered how he is preparing for multiple marathons in a season, his experience at the World

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00:48:33

#7 - Chicago Marathon War Stories, Rory runs 2:06,...

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2025/10/15

⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website"Marathons are freaking hard!"

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00:49:09

#6 - Chicago Marathon Preview, The Record Chase is...

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2025/10/09

Be sure to give us a rating and leave a comment!⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteWe discuss the upcoming Chicago Marathon, focusing on Rory's training, Canadian record attempts, and the competitive landscape of elite marathon running. They delve into the importance of consistency in training, pre-race preparations, and the dynamics of race day. Chicago Marathon Trivia Questions. The conversation

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00:45:36

#5 Mike Arishita - CEO & Founder of Blanks Nutrition,...

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2025/10/01

Blanks Sports NutritionIn this episode of the Out and Back podcast, Rory and Jacob welcome Michael Arashida, CEO and founder of Blanks Sports Nutrition. They delve into the complexities of sports nutrition, emphasizing the importance of individualized fueling strategies for athletes at all levels. Mike shares insights on the art and science of nutrition, the challenges of running a sports nutrition company, and common mistakes made by amateur athletes. The conversation highlights the necessity of

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00:47:15

#4 Julia Paternain - World Championship Medalist,...

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2025/09/26

In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, hosts Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter welcome Julia Paternain, a bronze medalist at the Tokyo World Championships in the marathon. Julia shares her unique journey from a competitive swimming background to becoming a marathon runner, detailing her experiences in college athletics, her training in Flagstaff, and her preparation for the Tokyo marathon. She discusses the challenges she faced, her strategies for success, and the surreal experience of winning

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