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Between Two Pines

Introducing a running podcast for people who think running podcasts are stupid. This is an ultrarunning comedy podcast instead. So if you are looking for inspirational or deep, thought-provoking content, you will probably DNF your next race just from listening to this. Dom Grossman and Andy Pearson host this monthly variety show with guests who are probably too famous to be on it, totally worthless advice call-in segments, and other dumb jokes designed to make you shoot gel through your

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55:05

Comedian/Ultrarunner Dan Lamorte, Scariest Things in...

Between Two Pines ·

2025/10/30

Ever wonder what ultrarunning, standup comedy, and autistim have in common? Then you'll love this interview with standup comedian Dan Lamorte about his journey from 354 pounds to ultrarunner and more. Plus, for Halloween, the boys count down the scariest things you'll ever see at an ultra. And they dissect David Roche's decision to give away his golden ticket. Get 20% off Fast Pickle juice shots with code BetweenTwoPickles20 at https://fastpickle.com/s/d69c6b. And check out Tantrum packs at

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55:22

Rachel Entrekin, Jimmy Elam’s 200-Mile Cherry, and...

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2025/09/25

Andy’s out running 100 miles, so Dom brings in Rachel Entrekin to co-pilot this month’s episode. Together they spiral through a truly unhinged game of “Would You Rather,” debating if espresso + Benadryl is a performance enhancer, and why 13,200 Bottles of Beer on the Wall might be the ultimate race soundtrack. Then Jimmy Elam drops by to talk about popping his 200-mile cherry at the Mammoth, haunted belt buckles, and his strategies for mid-run pee breaks. Along the way, we cover mystery pacers, bad

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49:04

Rachel Entrekin, Strange Encounters of the Fart Kind,...

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2025/08/21

Take our listener survey! Dom and Andy are back with a mind-bending, occasionally stomach-turning episode of Between Two Pines. Dom recounts his very pukey Angeles Crest 100 experience (complete with landscape-mode vomit footage), while Andy reflects on the etiquette of awkward road-path drafting and the fine legal distinctions of fart assault. Then, the guys welcome ultrarunning phenom Rachel Entrekin, fresh off her 18-race winning streak and course-record run at Cocodona 250. Rachel talks

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53:36

Joe Corcione, The Boys Answer Your Questions, Western...

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2025/07/24

The Boys are back, and going head to head with Joe Corcione of the Everyday Ultra podcast in an audio Thunderdome to the death. Dom and Andy do something they’ve never done before, rip open the listener mailbag and read your letters live on air. From a runner overcoming cancer to toe-losing ultra veterans, to one very mysterious “K. Scheid” who may or may not be transforming into a goat, it’s all here. Then, they dive into a meta-analysis of the Western States live coverage, breaking down what

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43:03

Max Jolliffe, What Broke the Unbreakable Western...

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2025/06/26

Don't let the title fool you, Max Jolliffe doesn't want to be the king of anything. But the boy sit down with him between the pines this month anyway. Plus, they regale with stories of Utah 115 and preview all the people who will not be running Western States this year. Thanks to Dirtbag Bar and Janji for sponsoring Between two Pines!

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43:52

UltraSignup CEO David Callahan, Tim Tollfeson the...

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2025/05/15

This month, Dom and Andy ill-advisedly take on their boss and co-CEO of UltraSignup David Callahan. Plus, they deconstruct the new running caveman ad starring sweetboy Tim Tollefson and reflect on the week that was Cocodona. Get 10% off Janji gear with code BTP10 and 20% off Dirtbag Bars with code ULTRADIRTBAG20.

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42:38

Jason Hardrath, FKTs and Paragliding, and Ultra Brain...

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2025/04/24

The world's first (and only?) ultrarunner/paraglider Jason Hardrath sails straight into the pines to talk about his 121 career FKTs. Plus, the boys cover the scientific study saying marathons make you dumber, they preview their Utah 115 race, and they play Would You Rather? Ultra Edition. As always, get your own Janji give for spring with 10% off with code BTP10.

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42:53

David Roche, A Race to the Death, and High-Intensity...

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2025/03/13

Carb evangelist and Leadville 100 course record holder David Roche extols the boys on the virtues of being totally hairless, how meat can be vegan, and why he’ll win Western States without training. Plus, Andy counter-challenges someone to a Race To The Death, and Fartalk helps a caller with treadmill HIIT. And visit our friends at Janji and get 10% off with code BTP10.

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32:33

Maggie Guterl, Moth Tech Controversy, and the Best...

Between Two Pines ·

2025/01/30

Maggie Guterl gives Andy and Dom advice for being an IPOS and growing their social media followings. Plus, moths finally speak out about running brands appropriating their culture and the boys rank their favorite least favorite races for 2025. Get 10% off all Janji gear when you use code BTP10.

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01:00:29

Eric Senseman Retires Again, Gift Guide For Your...

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2024/12/19

The Corporanino Cowboy himself Eric Senseman drops in between the pines to talk about life as a 30-something-year-old retiree. And since that's depressing, there's pretty of holiday cheer from gift guides for your crew, a Christmas poem tradition, and the look ahead to what awaits us in 2025.

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30:16

Christian Allen, the New York City Marathon Recap,...

Between Two Pines ·

2024/11/22

Coming fresh off the most unusual (for them) but very popular New York City Marathon, the boys recount their favorite moments of the weekend. What is Strava edging, and why aren't you on the BTP Edging group? Christian Allen tells all, and leaves us envious of his vicious mullet and stride. Support our sponsors by taking 10% of Janji gear with code BTP10.

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46:14

Olympic Marathoner Molly Seidel, Camille Herron's Two...

Between Two Pines ·

2024/10/24

As the boys prep for the New York City Marathon, they sit down with the Olympic bronze medalist Molly Seidel to ask how to run a marathon and learn about how she's leaning into her villain era. Support our sponsors by taking 10% of Janji gear with code BTP10.

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32:22

@YaBoyScottJurek, Vice Presidential Announcement, and...

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2024/08/29

The boys are finally back in town! Dom and Andy relive their greatest Western States moments and then interview one of the greatest ultrarunners of all time: @YaBoyScottJurek.

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30:23

Fearing and Loathing in Olympic Valley with Billy...

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2024/06/20

Dom and Andy start a road trip to the starting line of Western States. But after they eat a bag of expired gels and begin to hallucinate, things take several very weird turns. This very special epsiode is chock full of guests, including an interview with filmmaker and dog kidnapper Billy Yang. Plus, get your very own Between Two Pines trucker hat, available now in the UltraSignup merch store. And get 10% off all Janji gear when you use code BTP10.

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27:25

Tim Tollefson, Would You Rather? and Tripping Between...

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2024/05/23

K-Pop star Tim Tollefson, who you may know from Instagram, drops in between the pines to talk about being a pro runner for a decade, how much money he makes, and his almost unbelievable wins at UTMB and Western States. Plus, get your very own Between Two Pines trucker hat, available now in the UltraSignup merch store. And get 10% off all Janji gear when you use code BTP10.

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35:02

Semi-Rad, NOT the Barkley Mararathons, and a New Soap...

Between Two Pines ·

2024/04/25

Curl up inside the mind inside the man behind Semi-Rad, Brendan Leonard. It’s nice and toasty and full of graphs in there. Plus, the boys break down the world’s most insane race that’s NOT the Barkley Marathons. And don’t miss the debut of Between Two Pine’s brand new soap opera: THE WESTERN STATE. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And don’t forget to get 10% off Janji gear with code BTP10 and 10% off Currex insoles with code USIGNUP10.

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35:42

Amelia Boone, Pop Tarts, and Would Your Rather? Ultra...

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2024/03/14

Amelia Boone is one of the most accomplished OCR competitors in the history of the sport so it’s a shame that she appeared on the podcast. But if you’re curious about her secret love for slapping children, stealing iPod Shuffles, and housing Pop Tart, you’ll love this episode. This episode is brought to you by Janji and Currex enjoy exclusive discounts with BTP10 for 10% off Janji and USIGNUP10 FOR 10% off Currex.

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24:00

Andrew Glaze, 200 Weeks x 100 Miles, and Scary...

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2024/02/15

Andrew Glaze is an alien that has descended to earth just to run 100+ miles every week for more than four years and make us all look bad. The boys try to dissect him in this month’s episode. The episode is sponsored by Janji. Janjko makes running apparel for everyday exploration, with designs, materials, and features meant to help runners go further. Each Janji collection is informed by a different part of the world where we collaborate with local artists on unique designs and partner with clean

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31:59

Dylan Bowman, Predictions for 2024, and Some Rocks

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2024/01/18

The boys make predictions for ultrarunning in 2024 that are 100% guaranteed true or your money back. Then they talk with FreeTail (aka MingleTrack) founder Dylan Bowman and ask him if his Hardrock was bussin or suss AF. This episode is brought to you by Janji. Get 10% off Janji apparel with promo code BTP10. Go to janji.com to give it a try. This episode is brought to you by the Devil's Gulch Race in Washington State, happening on July 13-14th, 2024. The first 50 registrants snag a free pair of

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10:04

Between Two Christmas Trees Holiday Special

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2023/12/21

Break out the bear bells for this holiday extravaganza bonus episode. The boys look back on the year in ultra, talk about a Christmas miracle, and perform their own holiday poem just for you.

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