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America"s Test Kitchen

We take America"s Test Kitchen"s inquisitive and relentless approach to telling unexpected, funny, and thought-provoking narratives about food and drink. This is not a recipe show. And this is not a show about celebrity chefs or what they like to eat. Proof plunges into history, culture, science, and the psyche to uncover the hidden backstories that feed your food-obsessed brain. A production of America"s Test Kitchen.

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38:51

The Hospital That Serves Wild Game

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2025/12/18

What if hospital food could actually help you heal? In this episode of Proof, Reporter Otis Gray travels from the waters of Southeast Alaska to the Alaska Native Medical Center, the only hospital in the U.S. that serves wild game like moose, caribou, salmon, and seal to patients. We'll explore how traditional Indigenous foods can function as medicine, offering not just nutrition, but comfort, connection, and a sense of home.Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize

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37:05

Creating A Copycat Levain Cookie Recipe

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2025/12/11

Have you ever wondered what really goes into developing a recipe at America’s Test Kitchen? In this episode of Proof, ATK Associate Producer Angelica Quintanilla-McCall takes us behind the scenes as Deputy Food Editor, Andrea Geary, embarks on a mission of testing, tweaking, and tasting, in order to create the ultimate Levain-style cookie recipe. If you want to bake Andrea's take on the Levain Cookie, follow this link for the free recipe on our website and app! And if you're interested in being

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39:03

Why Dinner Parties Still Matter

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2025/12/04

Dinner parties are having a moment again; where homemade meals feel almost radical in our fast-paced world. But this isn’t the first time they’ve surged back into American life. Reporter Otis Gray visits three New York dinner parties where we learn it’s never just about the food.Inspired to host your own dinner party? Check out our website for this list of dishes that are sure to wow. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at

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38:11

What Does a Shared Menu Look Like Across a Divide?

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2025/11/27

What happens when two chefs, Yia Vang and Colby Rasavong, inherit a fraught history and decide to cook their way through it? In this episode, reporter Ngoc Bui takes us inside a Hmong-Lao dinner where they use food to open conversations about a complex past and explore how a new culinary vernacular can bridge generations. Check out our recipe for Hmong Grilled Hilltribe Chicken with Kua Txob, inspired by Yia Vang, and this classic Laotian recipe for Nam khao! Connect with quality therapists

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40:05

Whose Borscht Is It Anyway?

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2025/11/13

What happens when food travels with a diaspora? Reporter Kat Chow thought her family’s corned beef stew was a Chinese take on an Irish dish...until she discovered its true origins. In this episode of Proof, Kat traces the unexpected route that luo song tong—Hong Kong-style Borscht—took across continents and generations.Craving a hearty beef stew? Check out this recipe on our website. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at

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37:26

The (Social) Mushroom Network

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2025/11/06

The way wild mushrooms make it to your plate defies almost every rule of the modern food system. Unlike most produce, wild mushroom cultivation isn’t easily scalable, predictable, or consistently regulated. Instead, a web of small-scale, often hidden systems connects wild fungi to the commercial marketplace, including one that operates deep in the forest. Reporter Sarah Vitak embeds with mushroom foragers to understand this mysterious supply chain.Foraged some mushrooms? Consider making our Wild

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30:21

The Hot Dog King: An Episode from The Sporkful Podcast

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2025/10/30

Today’s story, from Dan Pashman and The Sporkful, is about the people behind New York’s hot dog carts, and one man’s fight to keep his spot. From street corners to museum steps, street vending is a grind that is shaped by city politics, impossible permits, and everyday hustle. In this episode, we meet Dan Rossi, a Marine vet who’s spent nearly 20 years guarding his cart outside The Met, the most coveted location for selling a hot dog in New York City, and fighting for his right to stay. Listen to

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2:51

A New Season of Proof Starts November 6!

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2025/10/23

Is the mushroom foraging business as innocent as it seems? What does it take for two cultures at odds to come together to make the ultimate fusion cuisine? How does the development of a viral cookie recipe work here at America's Test Kitchen? We answer these questions and more on the new season of Proof. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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42:02

The Legacy of America's Culinary Founding Father...

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2025/10/16

In this three-part series, reporter Otis Gray explores the extraordinary life of James Hemings; the enslaved chef who forever changed American cuisine.Episode three investigates the mysterious final chapter of James Hemings' life, exploring the unanswered questions surrounding the death of one of America's first great chefs. We also examine his undeniable legacy and the widespread impact of his cooking on modern day American cuisine and traditions. Connect with quality therapists and mental

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33:20

The Bargain for Freedom (Part 2: The James Hemings...

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2025/10/09

In this three-part series, reporter Otis Gray explores the extraordinary life of James Hemings; the enslaved chef who forever changed American cuisine.Episode two meets Hemings back at Monticello where his cooking became the backdrop to some of the most pivotal moments of Jefferson's political career and our country's history; all the while training his brother Peter in exchange for his freedom. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at

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38:08

The Man Who Commanded Jefferson's Kitchen (Part 1:...

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2025/10/02

In this three-part series, reporter Otis Gray explores the extraordinary life of James Hemings; the enslaved chef who forever changed American cuisine.Episode one traces James’ early years at Thomas Jefferson’s Monticello, his journey to becoming the first American to train in the kitchens of Paris, and the pivotal choice that would ultimately shape his future and his freedom. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at

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53:13

America's Beef with Beef

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2025/09/04

Many meat eaters might have experienced a phenomena called the meat paradox, where we acknowledge our love animals--like beef, or cow--but we...eat them. Reporter Avery Thompson faces the paradox head-on at a farm in Oklahoma. (We discuss death, animal slaughter, and other sensitive topics in this episode, so listener discretion is advised.)Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.rula.com/proof⁠⁠⁠⁠ EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼

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36:05

Has Airplane Food Actually Gotten Better?

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2025/08/28

What does it take to serve a dinner in first class at 37,000 feet? And are we in a new golden age of fine dining on airplanes? Reporter Emily Siner reports. Want to channel your inner first-class diner? Check out our breakdown of different kinds of caviar here. Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.rula.com/proof⁠⁠⁠ EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ ⁠⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/proof⁠⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee

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57:02

Was the Modern Gyro Invented in Chicago?

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2025/08/21

When reporter Justin Barney first moved to Nashville, he kept seeing signs for "Chicago-Style Gyros." Chicago-style? What's that? And why Chicago? These questions sent him down a deep reporting rabbit hole as Justin tries to uncover the origins of this enigmatic dish.Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠⁠https://www.rula.com/proof⁠⁠ EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ ⁠⁠https://nordvpn.com/proof⁠⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee

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50:40

Brewing a Revolution: The Origins of Fair Trade Coffee

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2025/08/14

We often see labels that say "Fair Trade" -- particularly in the context of chocolate or coffee. But what does it actually mean for a food to be "fair trade"? Reporter Andrew Stelzer follows the people and revolutionaries who helped jumpstart fair trade coffee in the United States.Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠https://www.rula.com/proof⁠ EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ ⁠https://nordvpn.com/proof⁠ Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back

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50:03

Tradwives and the Original Kitchen Influencers

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2025/08/07

In 1924, a man in Iowa named Henry built a radio station so that he could sell more seeds. Then, his rival Earl also created a radio station to sell more of his seeds. This rivalry laid the groundwork for the radio homemaker movement, where women—usually the men’s wives and sisters—filled air time sharing step-by-step recipes, dispensing advice and becoming early social media influencers recording straight from their kitchens, with fans writing letters by the thousands, and visiting the beloved

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Brand New Episodes of Proof Starting August 7th!

Proof ·

2025/07/31

The new season of Proof is filled with food origin stories that you'll want to share at your next dinner party. We ask: What can we learn from trad wives and kitchen influencers from a century before? How do mushrooms make their journey from the hands of foragers to our dinner table? What even is a Chicago Style Gyro, and where does it come from? These are just some of the questions we dig into in Season 20 of Proof from America's Test Kitchen.How did James Hemmings, born into slavery and

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49:44

As American as Pie

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2025/07/03

While developing her award-winning cookbook, 50 Pies, 50 States, Stacey Mei Yan Fong was about to become a permanent American resident. As she navigated the application process, she researched, developed, and baked pies that represented all 50 states, and delivered them to recipients in each of those states. Now, Stacey will soon be eligible to apply for American citizenship. In this episode, Stacey revisits the pie recipes and recipients to contemplate her choice. Check out America's Test

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54:05

Love (and Food) Actually

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2025/06/05

Proof contributor Aaron Pang wasn't sure if he'd find community and people to eat with when he arrived in Iowa to attend his creative writing program. In this episode, Aaron offers listeners a slice into his life today, and shares the mic with his ride-or-die culinary companion, Connie Chen. Make our version of Aaron and Connie's beloved "Filet-O-Fish" sandwich with our recipe for Crispy Fish Sandwiches! Get a 14-day free trial for an America’s Test Kitchen digital

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41:51

Cracked Open: An Episode from the Feet in 2 Worlds...

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2025/05/29

Today’s story comes from The Hustle, the new podcast series from Feet in 2 Worlds about the ways immigrants navigate a changing economy — today and throughout history. In the face of oppressive working conditions and economic exploitation, thousands of predominantly Mexican American women in San Antonio took a stand against the pecan industry’s giants in 1938. Their determination and the strike’s eventual success serves as a reminder of the potential for collective action. Feet in 2

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