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Neither Here Nor There

Neither Here Nor There

Two expats in Spain coming together to teach about what it takes to move into and out of new cultures.

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00:28:54

The Settled Stage

Neither Here Nor There ·

2025/11/14

Maybe one reason some of us have never pursued gardening is because we haven't stayed somewhere long enough to allow roots to grow.On this episode of Neither Here Nor There, hosts Ruthie Gomez and Laura talk with Brandi Carrano about the Settled stage of transition, the hands-down favorite phase where you finally have a sense of belonging and commitment impossible in other stages. They explore how settling provides the gift of freed-up mental bandwidth since moving takes enormous physical,

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00:23:51

Soul Care in Entering

Neither Here Nor There ·

2025/11/07

Moving from a place where making tomato soup required a harrowing market trip to somewhere you can simply buy it from the store should feel like relief, but sometimes it brings unexpected depression instead.On this episode of Neither Here Nor There, hosts Ruthie Gomez and Laura talk to guest Audrey Wells about soul care during the entering stage of transition, when unspoken expectations clash with reality in confusing ways. They explore how the entering phase can bring both wild excitement and

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00:36:41

The Entering Stage

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2025/10/31

Sometimes entering means discovering your new reality includes a flea-infested carpet and no closet when you expected a furnished room.On this episode of Neither Here Nor There, host Ruthie Gomez talks with co-host Laura and guest Audrey Wells, the Executive Pastor at ICB Barcelona about the entering stage of the transition cycle, when expectations collide with reality in ways both pleasant and jarring. They explore how the entering stage involves constantly adjusting expectations as you settle into

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00:18:36

Soul Care in Chaos (Minisode)

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2025/10/24

Chaos can feel like a brain wipe, washing your soul of all that it knows and leaving you staring blankly mid-conversation.On this episode of Neither Here Nor There, host Ruthie Gomez talks with co-host Laura about caring for your soul during the chaos stage of transition. They explore how the overwhelming nature of chaos can make it difficult to focus on anything, leading to forgotten tasks and mental fog as your brain tries to process countless details simultaneously. Laura shares her current

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00:39:35

The Chaos Stage

Neither Here Nor There ·

2025/10/17

The chaos stage is aptly named - it's when you are absolutely in between, beginning with the end and ending with the beginning.On this episode of Neither Here Nor There, host Ruthie Gomez talks with co-host Laura about the chaos stage of the transition cycle, the most stressful phase when people go into survival mode. They discuss how chaos can last anywhere from hours to years depending on circumstances, sharing personal stories of extended periods living out of suitcases, delayed housing

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00:22:12

Goodbyes and Remembrance (Minisode)

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2025/10/10

Goodbyes are hard because we weren't made for them - we were fashioned as eternal beings for a world without sorrowful farewells.On this episode of Neither Here Nor There, host Ruthie Gomez talks with co-host Laura about the deeper spiritual and emotional dimensions of saying goodbye during life transitions. They explore C.S. Lewis's insight that our longing for permanence stems from being made for an eternal country, and how this understanding can transform the way we approach difficult

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00:31:16

The Leaving Phase

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2025/10/03

Saying goodbye well requires intentional preparation that can begin months before you actually leave.On this episode of Neither Here Nor There, host Ruthie Gomez talks with cohost Laura about the leaving phase of the transition cycle and introduces the RAFT tool - an acronym for Reconciliation, Affirmation, Farewell, and Think Forward. They explore how this framework helps individuals and families navigate the emotional complexity of saying goodbye to people, places, pets, and possessions while

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00:13:55

Transition (Minisode)

Neither Here Nor There ·

2025/09/26

Small uncertainties like currency changes and unfamiliar products can feel overwhelming during major life transitions.On this mini-sode of Neither Here Nor There, host Ruthie Gomez talks with cohost Laura as they offer soul care for those walking through seasons of change by exploring the unchanging character of God during times of transition. They discuss how minor questions pile up in your mind during moves and how meditating on God's constant nature provides stability when everything else

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00:31:18

Overview of the Transition Cycle

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2025/09/19

Can you believe that experiencing complete chaos during major life changes is actually a predictable and normal part of transition?On this inaugural episode of Neither Here Nor There, host Ruthie Gomez and guest Laura discuss the transition cycle and how understanding its predictable patterns can help anyone navigate times of change with more peace and preparation. They break down the four stages of transition - settled, leaving, chaos, entering, and re-engagement - explaining how each phase brings

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00:02:53

Preview for Season 1

Neither Here Nor There ·

2025/09/12

What if the complete chaos you feel during major life changes is actually totally normal? Join host Ruthie Gomez and guest Laura as they break down the four predictable stages of transition and why understanding this cycle can help you navigate change with more peace and less self-judgment. Because here's the truth: no one is the best version of themselves during transition - and that's perfectly okay.Neither Here nor There - Helping you feel normal in the chaos of change. New episodes every Friday

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