Love Without Asterisks

What happens when the beliefs that once held everything together can no longer carry the weight of real life?In this foundational conversation, Jeff Click sits down with Christian ethicist David P. Gushee, whose early work helped shape modern evangelical ethics before a career-defining pivot reframed both his scholarship and his calling. Best known today for Changing Our Mind, Gushee reflects on how a series of transformative encounters with LGBTQ people he loved and served compelled him to

Before Free Mom Hugs became a global embrace, it was one mother standing in the heat of an Oklahoma Pride parade with a handmade button and a heart full of questions. In this second half of their two-part conversation, Sara Cunningham returns to the moment curiosity became courage. It is the chapter where love stops lingering in fear and finally steps into the open.In this continuation, Sara Cunningham, founder of Free Mom Hugs and author of How We Sleep at Night, sits with Jeff Click to trace the

Before Free Mom Hugs became a global movement, it was just one mom in Oklahoma, holding a secret she didn’t know how to carry. In this first half of a two-part conversation, Sara Cunningham—founder, author, and affirming mother—opens the door to her earliest struggle: the years she resisted her son’s truth, clinging to a faith that taught her love had limits.Together, Sara and Jeff look back on the collision between belief and belonging—the nights of prayer, the silence that stretched for years,

Love Without Asterisks is a podcast about what happens when the blueprint you’ve built your life around no longer fits the people you love most. If you have an LGBTQ+ someone in your life, this is for you. In Episode 1, Jeff welcomes longtime friend Peter Fulmer—dad to two LGBTQ kids—to show how presence, not perfection, becomes the clearest signal of love.Jeff, in his intro, lays the foundation for what’s ahead by naming the gap between a worldview shaped by tradition and the lived reality of

This is the official trailer for LOVE* (Love Without Asterisks)—a podcast for parents, friends, and loved ones learning what it truly means to love when someone you care about comes out as LGBTQ+. Hosted by Jeff Click, Love Without Asterisks explores the emotional, relational, and spiritual renovation that happens when unconditional love collides with a worldview shaped by tradition...one influenced by faith communities, family expectations, and cultural norms that often leave people unsure of how