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Defense in Depth

David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknap

Defense in Depth promises clear talk on cybersecurity"s most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community"s insights to lead our discussion.

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28:31

Why Overpromising is a Dangerous Sales Tactic

Defense in Depth ·

2026/03/05

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post, CISO, Upwind Security, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap, CISO, LinkedIn. Joining us is Octavia Howell, vp and CISO, Equifax Canada. In this episode: Beyond the quota The hard truth beats the polished bluff Paying for someone else's mistakes Reducing friction, increasing trust Huge thanks to our

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27:25

Should You Phish Your Employees or Not?

Defense in Depth ·

2026/02/26

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Mark Eggleston, CISO, CSC. In this episode: Breaking trust to test it Technical controls over testing The measurement imperative Fire drills, not gotchas Huge thanks to our sponsor, Scanner All your security logs end up in cloud storage like AWS S3. Scanner makes them searchable in seconds

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31:19

How Much Autonomy Should You Give AI Agents in Your SOC?

Defense in Depth ·

2026/02/19

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Cliff Crosland, co-founder and CEO, Scanner.dev. In this episode: Earning autonomy gradually The blast radius question The reality check Today's value, tomorrow's evolution Huge thanks to our sponsor, Scanner All your security logs end up in cloud storage like AWS S3. Scanner makes them searchable in

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32:45

Cybersecurity's Broken Hiring Process

Defense in Depth ·

2026/02/12

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Dr. Chase Cunningham, CSO at Demo-Force, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is Brett Conlon, CISO, American Century Investments. In this episode: The experience paradox Who benefits from the narrative Kitchen sink job postings The aggregation problem Huge thanks to our sponsor, Scanner All

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33:28

Simple Security Solutions That Deliver a Big Impact

Defense in Depth ·

2026/02/05

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is their sponsored guest, Rob Allen, chief product officer, ThreatLocker. In this episode: Getting permissions right The fundamentals that still fail Know what you have Simple controls, outsized impact Huge thanks to our

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30:42

When Cybersecurity Marketing Fails to Reach the Buyer

Defense in Depth ·

2026/01/29

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Patrick Garrity of VulnCheck for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining them is Tom Doughty, CISO, Generate:Biomedicines. In this episode: The 3Ms of product clarity Buzzwords work because buyers aren't experts Investor pressures distort messaging Threading the needle Huge thanks to our sponsor, Alteryx

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27:21

How Best to Prepare Your Data for Your Tools

Defense in Depth ·

2026/01/22

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining them is sponsored guest Matt Goodrich, director of information security, Alteryx. In this episode: The integrity challenge Zero trust for AI outputs Guardrails over garbage It looks good... Huge thanks to our sponsor, Alteryx Alteryx is a leading AI and data

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28:45

Don't Try to Win with Technical Expertise. Win by...

Defense in Depth ·

2026/01/15

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Jerich Beason, CISO, WM. Their guest is Pam Lindemoen, CSO and vp of strategy, RH-ISAC. In this episode: From loudest to most trusted Letting go of the win Listening over proving Beyond right and wrong Huge thanks to our sponsor, Alteryx Alteryx is a leading AI and data analytics

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25:28

What Makes a Successful CISO?

Defense in Depth ·

2026/01/08

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Ejona Preci, group CISO, LINDAL Group. In this episode: Consequence, not controls The credibility gap Defining the undefined Expanding the mandate A huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker makes Zero Trust

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29:38

How Should CISOs Talk to the Business

Defense in Depth ·

2025/12/18

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Binoy Koonammavu of Secusy AI for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is best-selling cybersecurity author Peter Gregory. His upcoming study guide on AI governance can be pre-ordered here. In this episode: Speaking the language of leadership Beyond translation: the

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32:45

How Much Cyber Risk Should a CISO Own?

Defense in Depth ·

2025/12/11

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Nick Nolen of Redpoint Cyber for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is Erika Dean, former CSO, Robinhood. In this episode: Delegation requires accountability The reality of daily decision-making The gap between theory and practice Beyond the advisory role Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker

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33:51

How To Tell When a Vendor is Selling AI Snake Oil

Defense in Depth ·

2025/12/04

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Christofer Hoff of Truist for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Caleb Sima, builder, WhiteRabbit. Joining them is Crystal Chatam, vp of cybersecurity, Speedcast. In this episode: Understanding the fundamentals The grift of superficial expertise Hands-on experience matters A vulnerability at the leadership level Huge thanks

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34:21

In the Age of Identity, is Network Security Dead?

Defense in Depth ·

2025/11/20

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Ross Haleliuk of Venture in Security for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Davi Ottenheimer, vp, trust and digital ethics, Inrupt. In this episode: Network security isn't dying—it's evolving The observability layer that can't be replaced What's old is new

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28:47

How to Manage Configuration Drift

Defense in Depth ·

2025/11/13

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Kevin Paige, CISO at ConductorOne, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Rob Allen, chief product officer, ThreatLocker. In this episode: When configuration drift becomes operational reality The garden that never stops growing From detection to cultural shift The maturity gap

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29:04

Is Least Privilege Dead?

Defense in Depth ·

2025/11/06

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Kevin Paige, CISO at ConductorOne, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Julie Tsai, CISO-in-Residence, Ballistic Ventures. In this episode: Is least privilege dead? Modern tactics, timeless principle Implementation over ideology Pragmatism over purity Huge

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32:55

How Do We Measure Our Defenses Against Social...

Defense in Depth ·

2025/10/30

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Mike Johnson, CISO, Rivian. Joining them is their sponsored guest Bobby Ford, chief strategy and experience officer, Doppel. In this episode: Beyond the click High-risk users demand different metrics Building engagement over punishment Creating a security culture through community Huge

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28:26

Sales Follow Up Sequences: What Works Best in Cyber?

Defense in Depth ·

2025/10/23

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Mike Gallardo for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining them is Alex Guilday, BISO, Royal Caribbean Group. In this episode: Timing the approach When persistence becomes harassment Playing the long game The necessity argument Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera AI is moving fast - can your security keep up

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24:42

What Soft Skills Do You Need in Cyber?

Defense in Depth ·

2025/10/16

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Evgeniy Kharam for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Ryan Dunn, Leader of Product and Supply Chain Technology, Specialized Bicycle Components. And check out "Architecting Success: The Art of Soft Skills in Technical Sales: Connect to Sell More" by Evgeniy Kharam

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27:52

What is the Visibility That Security Teams Need?

Defense in Depth ·

2025/10/09

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Bil Harmer, security advisor, Craft Ventures. Joining them is James Bruce, business security services director, WPP. In this episode: Turning visibility into actionable intelligence Pure visibility still provides an essential security foundation Finding strategic value The risk of gaps in

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26:01

Data Governance in the Age of AI

Defense in Depth ·

2025/10/02

All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Dan Walsh, CISO, Datavant. Joining them is their sponsored guest, Ash Hunt, vp, strategy, EMEA, Cyera. In this episode: The access creep challenge Bridging intent and execution Looking for integrity Racing against exponential complexity Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera AI is moving fast

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