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The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast

Brett McKay & Harry Jones

Harry Jones, the grizzly old no.8, and Brett McKay, the unremarkable schoolboy no.9, unite for the short-side set-piece combination you didn"t realise you needed in a rugby podcast. A couple of hosts who came together on a whim in 2022 have become arguably the best - and maybe the only - South African-American-Australian rugby podcast combination in the rugby world, blending the perfect combination of passion, humour, nonsense, and genuine insight. Tune in every week to find out where on earth Harry

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11:12

Weekend Post-Mortem: France, Boks leave their Marx

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/11/22

A very different and very short Weekend Post-Mortem for The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast, with Brett McKay giving a quick run through the two biggest games in Harry Jones’ convenient Springboks celebration-shaped absence on the ground in Dublin.And it was two intriguing contests for very different reasons. South Africa dominant in their win, but Ireland somehow staying in a contest they maybe had no right to, and Australian left to lament a 15pt loss to France that was only that wide because of what

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61:38

Ep.87 – Templars and Saintly uniforms with Riaan Louw

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/11/19

Riaan Louw joins Brett McKay and Harry Jones on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast once again as the Autumn Nations Series and November Tests reaches its penultimate weekend of a series that feels like it’s been going for longer than it has. And there’s so much to talk about in the rugby world suddenly! Are we seeing a changing of the guard in the Six Nations? Is there a chance of an upset anywhere this weekend coming? Do the World Rankigns feel about right? And who will possibly beat our presumptive

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30:07

Weekend Post-Mortem: Wallabies tour cannot end quicker

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/11/15

Brett McKay and Harry Jones are back for another Weekend Post-Mortem for The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast, after another big Saturday of Autumn Nations Series and November Tests in the norf’.An outstanding match in London, in which England really have upset the world rugby order after their impressive defeat of New Zealand, 14- and at a time 13-man South Africa got home over Italy in a weird game in Turin, Wales have scraped home over an unlucky Japan in Cardiff, and about the only positive from the

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66:14

Ep.86 – England might be good again with Charlie Morgan

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/11/12

Charlie Morgan once again joins Brett McKay and Harry Jones on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast as the Autumn Nations Series and November Tests heads into what looks like the most intriguing weekend of matches so far. Three of the six matches really stand out: England v New Zealand in London and Ireland v Australia in Dublin both on Saturday, followed by Scotland v Argentina in Edinburgh on Sunday. All three look intriguing as match-ups, it feels like there's an upset somewhere, and the rankings

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36:49

Weekend Post-Mortem: France aroused, not hard enough

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/11/08

South Africa have overcome a red card and France in Paris, Italy has conquered Australia again, and Scotland were just one Damien McKenzie away from history against New Zealand, and Brett McKay and Harry Jones pull it all apart on the Weekend Post-Mortem for The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast.The second weekend of Autumn Nations Series and November Internationals has thrown up some engrossing performances, if perhaps predicted results, and there is plenty to discuss as always. Will France learn

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Ep.85 – World Rugby’s Chicago problem with Martin Devlin

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/11/05

Brett McKay and Harry Jones are back on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast after one of them went missing temporarily in Chicago, and they’ve teamed up with Martin Devlin from the DSPN in New Zealand for a look back on the Ireland-All Blacks game at Solider Field. What was it that clicked on the hour for NZ? How did Ireland lose control of the match so quickly? And what on earth was going on with the set-up? No referee comms in the stadium, no TMO replays and decision on the big screens, and the pièce

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65:46

Ep.84 – A Japanese (rugby) inquisition

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/30

Brett McKay and Harry Jones are back on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast after an enjoyable late-season break, and they’ve used their first pod in three weeks to catch up on one family holiday and several intriguing current rugby matters.Namely, how was Brett’s trip to Japan? How much of the famed 8/9 travel budget is left? (Spoiler: not much) How have the Stormers started the URC so well? How on earth did the URC Judicial process suspend Jan-Hendrik Wessels for so long with so little corroborating

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33:50

Weekend Post-Mortem: Wallabies scrape through...

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/25

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34:32

the 8/9 Recap: They were VERY wrong at Ellis Park!

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/22

With the rugby world taking a little break in the international calendar, Brett & Harry have taken this little window to revisit some of their favourite episodes from The Rugby Championship.This week, a look back at the week following Australia’s historic win over South Africa in Johannesburg, with Riaan Louw joining the show to recall all the ways he and Harry were wrong about the Ellis Park clash as they sat amongst the crowd inside the great stadium. Equal parts awkward and hilarious. Learn

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28:19

the 8/9 Recap: Ellis Park was NOT supposed to happen!

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/15

With the rugby world taking a little break in the international calendar, Brett & Harry have taken this little window to revisit some of their favourite episodes from The Rugby Championship.This week, a look back at our TRC Post-Mortem following the Wallabies famous – infamous, for some – victory over the Springboks at Ellis Park in Johannesburg, snapping a streak that went back more than 60 years, and which has so far proved to be a high point for Australia in 2025. Learn more about your ad

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Ep.83 – Was that the last ever TRC with Geoff Parkes

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/09

The Rugby Championship has been run and won for 2025, but the real question would seem to be has it been run and won forever? Rugby writer and author Geoff Parkes joined Brett McKay and Harry Jones on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast to ponder that very question.And as a way to wrap up The Rugby Championship properly for 2025 (but maybe forever), Harry sat a couple of homework tasks before this week’s chat, namely: 1. Was that the last ever TRC? 2. If this was the last TRC, how will the TRC be

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32:41

TRC Post-Mortem: Stupid mistakes kill Wallabies. Again

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/04

The All Blacks have swept the Bledisloe Cup series, and Brett McKay and Harry Jones pull it all apart in another TRC Post-Mortem for The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast.A relatively even first half contest looked more comfortable than perhaps it was, courtesy of two late tries, before the Wallabies cruelled their own second half with silly mistakes, skill errors, and poor decision-making, leaving them and Australian fans to contemplate the what-ifs for yet another year. And because the WiFi gods

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14:37

the 8/9 Tap & Go: Is this South Africa's Rugby...

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/02

It’s the final round of The 2025 Rugby Championship this weekend, with a couple of key southern hemisphere matches to be played in Perth and, er… London? Brett & Harry ask the key questions for TRC Rd.6. Can the Wallabies square the Bledisloe Cup series in Western Australia, and can Los Pumas possible bounce back against the Springboks at Twickenham? This week's key questions: Q1. Despite the Horror of Ellis Park, is this South Africa's Rugby Championship to lose? (reckon this is the

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68:24

Ep.82 – It was all about the closure with Jamie Wall

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/10/01

With the Bledisloe Cup decided for another year, but the return Test and The Rugby Championship still very much up in the air, Kiwi rugby journalist Jamie Wall joined Brett McKay and Harry Jones on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast to dive deep into the fallout. While the result at Eden Park wasn’t so surprising last weekend, the way the All Blacks closed the game out, and the way the Wallabies simultaneously killed off their best Bledisloe chance in many a year went against recent form lines and

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34:44

TRC Post-Mortem: Just holding on isn’t enough

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/09/27

The All Blacks have retained the Bledisloe Cup for another year, and Brett McKay and Harry Jones feel like the nine-point margin was about right on another TRC Post-Mortem for The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast.New Zealand started sharply and looked ominous early on, before Australia swing momentum and reduced the halftime margin to just three points. After the break and in the end, it will be another case of Wallabies errors and missed opportunities to rue, with crucial mistakes killing off any

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Ep.81 – Evolution of the humble tackle bag with Reg...

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/09/25

Global CEO of Rhino Rugby equipment Reg Clark joined Brett McKay and Harry Jones on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast to get into the weeds about a rarely-thought, but crucial part of the modern game: the humble tackle bag. Rhino Rugby are perhaps the dominant player in the technical training equipment game, supplying so many national unions and the British & Irish Lions with crash pads, training aids, and scrum machines. In 2025, they’re also supplying South African rugby with their match balls, which

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18:47

the 8/9 Tap & Go: How deep doth the fallout run?

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/09/16

We keep saying The 2025 Rugby Championship is the tightest one yet, and so it remains after four rounds. Everyone has two wins and two losses. Everyone has won and lost at home, everyone has won and lost away.Brett & Harry ask the key questions in this TRC week off before we resume for Round 5 next weekend. But how will Australia and New Zealand bounce back after stinging losses? And how confident are Argentina and South Africa right now? This week's key questions: Q1. How deep is the

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34:18

TRC Post-Mortem: Razor’s edge lost; Rassie rules

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/09/13

The Rugby Championship is officially nuts. After four rounds, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, amd Argentina all have four wins. Brett McKay and Harry Jones try to make sense of it all on another TRC Post-Mortem for The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast.In Sydney, Los Pumas scored the two point-win they perhaps should have claimed a week ago, though Australia now lead the tournament courtesy of double bonus points in a loss and the worst forward pass miss in a long time. In Wellington, the Springboks

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15:39

the 8/9 Tap & Go: Who on Earth wins this weekend?

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/09/12

If the 2025 Rugby Championship is the tightest one yet, Round 4 this weekend looms as the hardest to pick yet. Australia and Argentina have both rung the changes to their teams, forced and not, New Zealand appear to have beefed up their pack but snuck a debutant on the wing, and South Africa have named such a young side that Rassie may well be now operating two RWCs ahead.Brett & Harry ask the key questions ahead of this weekend’s 4th Round of TRC matches in Sydney and Wellington. Can Argentina

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64:36

Ep.80 – Finally, a Rugby Championship with Marcello...

The 8-9 Combo Rugby Podcast ·

2025/09/11

It is officially the tightest Rugby Championship anyone can remember and former Argentinean centre Marcello Bosch joined Brett McKay and Harry Jones on The 8/9 Combo Rugby Podcast to flip a coin in an attempt to work out what happens this weekend in Round 4.Certainly, the rise of the Wallabies has helped, but the rise of Los Pumas cannot be ignored in that conversation. Marcello can’t be more impressed with the evolution of Argentina under Felipe Contepomi, and believes there’s no coincidence

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