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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom Cock, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it"s actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).

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31:41

House Rich?

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2026/01/15

Retirement income doesn’t have to mean hoarding assets or obsessing over leaving an inheritance. In this episode of Talking Real Money, Don and Tom dig into a topic that still makes many investors flinch: reverse mortgages. Using recent research and real-world planning logic, they walk through why modern reverse mortgages aren’t the shady last-ditch option they once were, how they can reduce cash-flow stress, and when they may (or may not) make sense as part of a broader retirement plan. Along the

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44:47

Bespoke Future

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2026/01/14

This episode dismantles the myth of “one-size-fits-all retirement,” arguing that retirement isn’t a date, an age, or a lifestyle—it’s a personal transition that demands both an income plan and a purpose plan. Don and Tom explore the growing trend of “un-retiring,” why fear and economic anxiety are lousy motivators for going back to work, and how a lack of planning fuels unnecessary worry later in life. Listener questions cover smart uses of 529-to-Roth conversions, parking large sums of cash, Roth

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44:25

Easier Usually Better

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2026/01/13

Tom Cock and Don McDonald kick off 2026 with a sharp, skeptical look at portfolio simplicity—what it really means, what it doesn’t, and why promises like “no sacrifice in returns” should always raise an eyebrow. Using a Morningstar article as a springboard, they dig into active vs. index funds, one-fund and target-date strategies, and the behavioral traps that complexity creates. Listener calls drive deeper discussions around Avantis funds (AVGE vs. AVGV), value tilts, international exposure,

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26:59

Nobody Knows

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2026/01/12

Predictions feel comforting—but they’re usually nonsense. In this episode, Don and Tom dismantle the illusion of foresight by revisiting last year’s loudest economic forecasts around tariffs, inflation, jobs, recessions, and markets. Drawing from a Wall Street Journal retrospective, they show how both political promises and expert predictions missed the mark, with reality landing squarely in the messy middle. The takeaway is classic Talking Real Money: nobody—not economists, not presidents, not

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29:53

Try Before You Buy?

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2026/01/09

Investing isn’t a game, and treating it like one can quietly sabotage your future. This episode dismantles the idea of “trying out” investments or advisors the way Wall Street has trained people to do for decades. Don and Tom argue that real financial advice starts with planning, not products, and that a true fiduciary focuses on taxes, portfolio design, and long-term goals — not beating markets or selling what’s hot. Listener questions tackle portfolio overlap inside a 401(k), when simplicity beats

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32:13

Can It Be Free?

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2026/01/08

0:04 Remembering the “good old days” of fat commissions0:33 From $200 trades to zero commissions—what really changed 1:18 Free trading everywhere… so how do brokers make money now? 2:37 Robinhood’s explosive growth and the rise of trading culture 3:15 Trading volume triples in six years—what that signals 4:42 Payment for order flow, cash sweeps, and hidden costs 6:21 Are investors actually getting a deal from free trading? 7:13 Why frequent trading and poor returns go hand in

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44:16

Very Different

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2026/01/07

This episode opens with a reality check on streaming delays before diving into the growing divide between investing and gambling, highlighted by Charles Schwab’s refusal to promote crypto, options, and prediction markets while Robinhood leans fully into high-intensity trading. Don and Tom warn that flashy features and frequent trading usually lead to worse outcomes, not better ones. Listener questions cover whether employees can roll a 401(k) during a plan change (usually no), how to cope with bad

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43:48

Picking a Good One

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2026/01/06

With Tom on vacation and an eerily convincing AI stand-in holding down the mic, Don kicks off 2026 by tackling one of the most persistent listener questions: how to actually find a true fiduciary—and how to eliminate salespeople fast. Using FINRA’s BrokerCheck as a simple filter, the show explains why the “B” matters, why dual-registered advisors are still a risk, and how complexity is often a red flag. From there, the conversation dives into the rise of RILAs (registered index-linked annuities),

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26:42

Why Complicate It?

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2026/01/05

Wall Street is pitching “fixed-maturity ETFs” as the perfect solution for retirees who want certainty, income, and peace of mind—but are they actually solving a problem that already has simpler answers? In this episode, Don and Tom break down what bonds and CDs really do, why fixed-maturity funds are being pushed so hard right now, and how fees quietly eat away at the promised benefits. Along the way, they explain the real role of bonds in a portfolio, why chasing yield is a trap, and how

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30:54

Q&A 2026

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2026/01/02

The calendar flipped, but the rules didn’t. In this New Year Friday Q&A, Don tackles listener questions on longevity annuities (QLACs), legacy insurance mistakes, advice-only advisory services, and the growing trend toward complex fixed-income systems and alternative investments. From insurance math that favors the house to eye-watering fees dressed up as innovation, the message stays consistent: simplicity beats sophistication, fees matter, and global diversification works the same whether you live

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45:00

Hot? Don't Touch.

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2025/12/31

This episode dismantles the idea that successful investing comes from finding the next hot thing. Instead, Don and Tom argue that good portfolios are built by eliminating what doesn’t belong: actively managed funds, sector ETFs, alternatives, high-yield bonds, gold, and other distractions that add complexity without purpose. Drawing on a Morningstar column by Amy Arnott, they reinforce that most investing mistakes come from chasing performance rather than embracing simplicity and discipline. The

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44:40

What's Actually New?

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2025/12/30

As the year crawls to a close, Don and Tom torch the ritual of “New Year, New You” financial advice and take aim at the endless lists of five things you must do next year. They break down why year-end deadlines are mostly psychological theater, why prediction-based investing is a sucker’s game, and how even AI—when pressed—admits the truth: diversification beats cleverness, patience beats prediction, and complexity usually hides higher costs and worse outcomes. Along the way, they tackle 529 plans,

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30:25

Tricky "Investments"

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2025/12/29

In this post-Christmas edition of Talking Real Money, Don McDonald and Tom Cock dismantle one of the most seductive myths in personal finance: the promise of high returns, no risk, and tax-free income. Using the lawsuit filed by Kyle Busch against Pacific Life as a case study, they expose the dark mechanics of indexed universal life insurance—hidden commissions, opaque costs, fabricated indexes, and returns that quietly disappoint. The episode then pivots to listener questions on diversification

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21:48

Extra Qs

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2025/12/26

A year-end Boxing Day Q&A covering realistic downside expectations for global portfolios, the marginal value of adding international small-cap value, details for RetireMeet 2026, and a deeply skeptical look at Medicaid-compliant annuities. The common thread: diversification helps, simplicity usually wins, and when complexity shows up early, commissions are often lurking nearby.0:04 Boxing Day confusion, goodwill, and a short-format holiday Q&A 1:07 Why this is a shorter, four-question episode to

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44:54

Market Value?

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2025/12/24

It’s surprisingly hard to know what something is really worth until someone actually tries to buy it—and that problem is front and center in private funds. Don and Tom unpack why private equity, private real estate, and other “alternative” investments often look calm and stable on paper, only to suffer brutal price drops once they finally trade in public markets. From a Wall Street Journal example of a private real estate fund losing roughly 40% overnight, to Morningstar’s troubling enthusiasm for

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44:56

Sucker's Rebellion

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2025/12/23

A Wall Street Journal column argues that younger investors are turning to options, crypto, and betting as a rational response to a “rigged” economic system. Don and Tom aren’t buying it. While acknowledging real headwinds—student debt, housing costs, wage gaps—they dismantle the idea that gambling is an intelligent adaptation. Drawing on history, lived experience, and actual math, they make the case that leverage, speed, and desperation reliably destroy wealth, while patience, diversification, and

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33:58

Money Suckers

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2025/12/22

Streaming was supposed to save us money. Instead, it quietly rebuilt cable… with better branding and worse self-control. Don and Tom trace the journey from rabbit-ear TV to today’s subscription sprawl, where “it’s only $14 a month” quietly becomes hundreds per year. They break down why streaming costs have exploded faster than inflation, how duplication and inertia drain wallets, and what actually works to fix it (bundling, pruning, and strategic binge-and-cancel). From there, the show pivots to

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22:47

More Holiday Q&A

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2025/12/19

In this holiday Friday Q&A, Don opens with a festive announcement about Season’s Readings—now Apple-featured and temporarily commercial-free—before diving into listener questions on fixed annuities versus CDs, a creative (and complex) 529-to-Roth strategy tied to Georgia tax deductions, simplifying IRA management and RMDs at Schwab or Vanguard, the unavoidable tax traps of old investment clubs structured as partnerships, and the perennial question of how much U.S. large-cap exposure belongs in a

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30:07

The Upside of Down

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2025/12/18

Market drops are a gift when you’re young and a potential gut-punch when you’re retired, and this episode walks through why that’s true—and what to do about it. Don and Tom break down sequence-of-returns risk in plain English, then explore practical defenses: cash buffers, CD ladders, bucket strategies, flexible withdrawals, partial retirement, and why stocks still belong in retirement portfolios whether you like it or not. Listener questions tackle letting portfolios ride for heirs, value vs. total

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45:00

Easy Money Isn't...

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk ·

2025/12/17

This episode of Talking Real Money takes aim at the latest “easy money” illusion—house flipping—explaining why rising costs, higher interest rates, softer housing demand, and plain old competition have drained much of its appeal. Tom and Don connect flipping’s decline to a familiar pattern of speculative behavior, much like day trading or past real estate manias, and reinforce why there are no reliable shortcuts to wealth. Listener calls drive a wide-ranging discussion on global diversification

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