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Life Between Titles

Life Between Titles is a podcast about what happens after one chapter ends and before the next begins. Hosted by Savan Kong, this series explores identity, purpose, and personal growth in the moments when life slows down and the job title disappears. Through candid conversations with leaders, creators, and people in transition, each episode looks at how we rebuild meaning, stay resilient, and rediscover who we are when the structure of work falls away. Topics include leadership, career

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00:20:44

LAID OFF: A Year After the Pentagon. The Story I've...

Life Between Titles ·

2026/03/27

Unemployed for a year after leaving the Pentagon. This is my raw story. I spent nearly a decade inside the Department of Defense across three administrations, holding a title nobody had ever held before, doing work I genuinely believed in. When I left, I thought I'd be fine. Everybody told me I'd be fine. I was not fine.----⁠Buy Me a Coffee to Support LBT----This is the story I've been sitting on for a year. The deferred resignation program that got dangled in front of me and yanked back

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01:12:19

From Seattle Emcee to The Halls of O'Dea High School

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2026/03/24

What happens when the guy hyping up 70,000 fans at Husky Stadium is the same guy quietly mentoring high school boys in downtown Seattle? That's Dave Mazzeo and his story is one you won't forget. Dave is the Alumni Director at O'Dea High School and one of Seattle's most sought-after independent MCs. In this episode, we get into what it really takes to balance two careers that couldn't look more different on paper, why showing up for people IS the job, and what 25 years at one

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00:52:19

Left Booking.com to Build a One-Man Empire: Here's...

Life Between Titles ·

2026/03/18

Andy breaks down how he walked away from a dream job at Booking.com, moved his family to a town of 1,200 people in Oregon, and built a six-figure content creation business with nothing but a phone and a refusal to be perfect.————————————————————ABOUT ANDYAndy is a stay-at-home dad, UGC content creator, and one-man agency operating out of rural Oregon. A former Booking.com market manager who traveled three weeks a month, Andy pivoted to full-time dadhood after the birth of his twin boys — and

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01:13:11

You’ve Been Thinking About Prison Food (And...

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2026/03/14

Career transition, reinvention, and second chances don’t always look the way you expect. Aaron Brooks spent 30 years in government service — 6 on Navy submarines, 20 in federal corrections — teaching people how to cook, lead, and rebuild.In this first episode of Work Unscripted, Aaron breaks down what it actually takes to feed a crew underwater, manage a kitchen inside a federal prison, and earn the respect of men who have absolutely nothing to lose. This is not a story about punishment. It’s a

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00:04:41

Cooking for Submarines and Prisoners | A Navy...

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2026/03/10

What is it like to cook on a Navy submarine… and later cook inside a federal prison?In this first clip of Work, Unscripted, Savan Kong talks with Aaron Brooks, a 10 year Navy submarine veteran and 20 year Federal Bureau of Prisons employee who has spent his career cooking in some of the most unusual environments imaginable.Aaron shares stories from life on submarines, the chaos of cooking for hundreds of sailors underwater, and the surprising psychology behind running a prison kitchen.One of his

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00:14:54

I Talked to 22 People After They Lost Their Jobs....

Life Between Titles ·

2026/03/05

Job loss, layoff, career transition, unemployment — after 20 raw conversations with real people, host Savan Kong discovered that bouncing back has nothing to do with your resume and everything to do with your identity.What he heard completely changed how he thinks about job loss, reinvention, and what it really means to rebuild after something major happens in your life. No networking hacks. No resume tips. Just five honest, human truths — told through real quotes from real people who've been

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01:25:41

Oxygen Mask First, Danielle Luhmann on Sacrifice,...

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2026/03/01

What does it look like to pursue ambition without abandoning your identity or your familyIn this episode of Life Between Titles, I sit down with Danielle Luhmann, a lawyer turned therapist, mom of three, entrepreneur, and endurance athlete who has reinvented herself multiple times without burning her life down in the processWe talk about sacrifice and the anxiety of choosing the unknown, how to train for big goals without disappearing from your family, and why taking care of yourself is not selfish,

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00:05:00

25 Episodes Later, What I’ve Learned About Career...

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2026/03/01

I tried recording a polished version of this update four or five times.It was terrible.So here’s the real one.Since launching in October, Life Between Titles has grown into something bigger than I expected. We’ve published over 25 conversations with people navigating career pivots, identity shifts, burnout, reinvention, and the quiet struggle of being between chapters.The mission has always been simple. Talk about the in between. The part people usually struggle with in silence. And it’s working

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01:24:36

The Reset: Matt Kelly on Burnout, Fatherhood, and...

Life Between Titles ·

2026/02/25

Matt Kelly hit a point where he had to admit something out loud, he was in his own way.After a decade in high pressure enterprise sales, constant flights, thousand dollar dinners, whiskey until 3 a.m., and living the persona the job demanded, the bill showed up in his body and his mind. He was run down, not sleeping, not healthy, and stuck in survival mode. Matt owns it with zero excuses, the problem was me, so he chose a reset.We talk about what it looks like to step back for your family, how

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01:24:18

Creative Grit and UX Design with Tim Salazar

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2026/02/05

What happens when immigrant parents want stability, but you want to create? Tim Salazar, a first generation Filipino American, joins Life Between Titles to talk about growing up between Northern California, Eastern Washington, and Seattle, chasing film and writing dreams in Los Angeles, and doing whatever it took to stay afloat. We get into his pivot into UX through library school at Pratt, what early UX looked like in the era of massive waterfall specs, and the lessons we both took from Amazon,

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01:16:47

Finding Your Leadership Vision with Vance Cooper

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2026/01/13

In this episode of Life Between Titles, I sit down with my friend Vance, a Philadelphia based healthcare leader with 15 years of experience, plus a PhD in corporate leadership.We talk about why Philly shapes leaders differently, how environment influences who you become, and what it looks like to be intentional about the people you surround yourself with. Vance also breaks down the difference between your job and your work, why self assessment is the starting point for real growth, and how

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01:33:43

Finding Worth Beyond Work with Andrew Merchant

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2026/01/07

What happens when the path you were taught to follow no longer fits the life you are living?In this episode, Savan sits down with Andrew Merchant for a deeply honest conversation about identity, depression, fatherhood, and choosing family over prestige. Andrew shares what it was like growing up in rural Alabama, building a marriage that started young, navigating undiagnosed depression, and stepping into the role of a stay at home dad in a household shaped by neurodivergence and intentional

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00:07:31

The Job Search Process is Broken

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2026/01/05

Starting 2026 unemployed and wondering what you are doing wrong?Hundreds of applications. Resume rewrites. LinkedIn Premium. Interview coaching. And still nothing moves?This is not about working harder.It is about understanding why the job market changed and how to change your strategy with it.If this sounds like you, you are not broken.The system changed.Hashtags#JobSearch#LifeBetweenTitles#Unemployed#CareerAdvice#JobSearchTips#2026Goals#ProfessionalGrowth

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01:22:14

Betting on Yourself with Jen Tran

Life Between Titles ·

2026/01/02

This is the last guest episode of the year, and I wanted to close out with a conversation that tells the truth about career transition, the parts that rarely make it into the highlight reel. Jen Tran takes us back to her first General Assembly UX class where she looked left, looked right, and realized most people in the room would not make the switch. Out of about 20 classmates, she saw only three successfully transition.Jen shares what it felt like to bet on herself in her mid thirties, with doubt,

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01:27:05

Growth Starts With Feedback with Tré Wright

Life Between Titles ·

2025/12/17

In this Life Between Titles conversation, Tré Wright breaks down what makes feedback sustainable, inviting it, receiving it without defensiveness, and building the muscle through small, consistent habits. We also talk about routines that reduce job search burnout, why community matters when the world feels heavy, and how coaching helps people find clarity, accountability, and a more authentic identity at work and at home.#LifeBetweenTitles#Leadership#FeedbackCulture#Coaching#CareerGrowth💡 Support

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01:27:14

Inside the Machinery of Public Service with Jason...

Life Between Titles ·

2025/11/30

In this episode of Life Between Titles, Savan talks with Jason Briefel about the unseen world of federal leadership, policy, and workforce reform. Jason shares a decade of experience representing senior executives across government, describing how agencies struggle to invest in their own leaders, why civil service systems remain outdated, and how culture often outweighs structure. He also opens up about the emotional toll of long job searches, the pressure of living with his parents as a married

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00:06:44

A Thanksgiving of Lessons, Gratitude, and Growth

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2025/11/26

In this Thanksgiving reflection, I look back on the first two months of Life Between Titles and the guests who shaped it. I share the lessons they taught me about leadership, reinvention, identity, creativity, fatherhood, and the courage it takes to walk into uncertainty. Each guest left me with something meaningful, from empathy to purpose to rediscovery. This episode is my way of saying thank you to everyone who trusted me with their story and to every listener searching for direction. Gratitude

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01:20:12

If It Doesn’t Challenge You, It Doesn’t Change You, A...

Life Between Titles ·

2025/11/25

In this episode of Life Between Titles, Cheryl Dillon shares a perspective shaped by years of guiding people through major life transitions. She explains why the hardest moments in life often become the catalysts for reinvention and how challenge, discomfort, and uncertainty can reveal the next chapter waiting on the other side. Cheryl also discusses the journey that led her to build Funderful Experiences, her approach to meaningful community, and the mindset shifts that help people move forward

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01:05:44

Reinvention Later in Life with Pamela Davis

Life Between Titles ·

2025/11/20

In this episode, I sit down with Pamela Davis, a seasoned professional whose journey reflects a lifetime of resilience, responsibility, and renewal. Pamela raised two daughters on her own, guided them through private school, worked long hours to keep them supported, and later stepped into another demanding chapter caring for her mother through ten years of dementia. In her fifties, she returned to college to earn her degree in education, proving that personal growth can unfold at any stage of

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01:23:39

Office Hours with Ringo Nishioka | The Truth About...

Life Between Titles ·

2025/11/12

In this first episode of Office Hours, host Savan Kong talks with longtime HR leader Ringo Nishioka about what really happens behind the scenes when layoffs, promotions, and performance reviews unfold. Ringo shares decades of experience from inside the world of human resources, explaining how employees can protect themselves, how to negotiate an exit package, and what it actually means to be “layoff resistant.”This is an unfiltered look at the business of people. Whether you are between jobs,

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