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The Luella Jonk Show

Dr. Luella Jonk, PhD

From the therapy room of a registered psychotherapist, dating coach and solopreneur who has tirelessly attempted a 'healthy' work-life balance for 25 years, it rarely existed for me and likely does not for most business owners, entrepreneurs and executives. The truth is relationships can really suffer. I will be interviewing expert guests who are doing things right so we can all learn to mix business with pleasure. Topics will range from building better relationships, connection, dating, and

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Episode #86: Eric Zeitler (Part 2) on Why Your...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2026/01/27

In this second conversation with Licensed Professional Counselor Eric Zeitler, we tackle one of the most frustrating dynamics in modern Catholic marriages: leadership. Or more accurately, the lack of it. Women tell me constantly that their husbands won't step up. Men tell Eric they don't know how—or worse, that they've tried and been shut down.Eric doesn't sugarcoat it: leadership in marriage requires two things. First, a willingness to sacrifice—to fall on the sword first, to put

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Episode #85: Eric Zeitler (Part 1) on Why Trauma...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2026/01/20

In this first part of a two-part conversation, Licensed Professional Counselor Eric Zeitler opens up about his innovative approach to therapy that honors both psychological science and Catholic faith. As founder of the Imago Dei Healing Institute, Eric has dedicated his practice to helping clients heal deep wounds while respecting their deeply held values—a balance many Catholics struggle to find in traditional therapy settings.Eric shares the powerful story that launched his mission: watching

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Episode #84: Stop Blaming Men. Stop Blaming Women....

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2026/01/13

In this solo episode, I'm addressing something that's been showing up constantly in my therapy room—and frankly, it's been irritating me more and more. Husbands are sending their wives viral videos that essentially say: "This is why I'm losing attraction to you. This is what you're doing wrong."And I need to talk about why this isn't helping anyone.I'll walk you through:✅ Why sending your wife a video that blames her destroys communication before it even starts✅

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Episode #83: Brenda Prato on Beyond Romance: What the...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2026/01/06

In this episode, I sit down with Brenda Prato, a canon lawyer from Malta who serves as Defender of the Bond in the Archdiocese of Liverpool and as a collegial judge in the Archdiocese of Armagh. As a married mother of two pursuing her doctorate in canon law at KU Leuven, Brenda brings both professional expertise and deeply personal insight to one of the Church's most misunderstood processes: marriage annulments.I'll walk you through:✅ What consent actually means in marriage—and why it's

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Episode #82: Faith Deepened This Year— Not Because...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/12/30

As I record this on December 30th, I'm not in the space of big resolutions or grand declarations for 2025. Instead, I'm sitting with what I've been noticing—about aging, about faith, about what actually sustains us when life shifts beneath our feet.At 57 (turning 58 in February), I'm discovering something unexpected: the less I try to control, the freer I feel. It's not that life has gotten easier—it hasn't. But I'm learning to trust more and grip less, and that shift has

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Episode #81: Dani Spies on How Your Nervous System...

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2025/12/23

In this episode, health and eating psychology coach Dani Spies shares her transformative journey from chronic dieting to food freedom. As the founder and host of Clean and Delicious, Dani helps women build healthier relationships with food, body, and weight—without restriction or rigid meal plans. Her turning point? Becoming pregnant and finally giving herself permission to stop trying to "fix" her body.I'll walk you through:✅ Why dieting from a young age created the very problems Dani

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Episode #80: Your Spouse Isn't Mad—They're Silent....

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2025/12/16

In this solo episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on something that happened between my husband and me on our recent vacation in Mexico—a moment so small, so ordinary, that you might miss it entirely. But this is exactly the kind of moment that quietly erodes long-term relationships without anyone noticing until the distance has already set in.This episode isn't about arguing better or fixing dramatic conflicts. It's about something far more subtle and far more common: what happens when

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Episode #79: Dr. Caryn Zinn on Why What You Eat...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/12/09

In this episode, I sit down with Professor Caryn Zinn—a powerhouse nutrition researcher and registered dietitian from New Zealand who's spent over 25 years turning conventional dietary advice on its head. As a Professor at Auckland University of Technology, Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Metabolic Health, and co-author of the bestselling "What the Fat?" series, Caryn has dedicated her career to helping people understand that the way we fuel our bodies directly impacts our capacity to

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Episode #78: Why Your Mind Feels Like It's Working...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/12/02

In this solo episode, I dive deeper into what I started exploring last week—why our minds feel so chaotic despite our best intentions. As a psychotherapist, I've watched clients struggle with scattered thoughts, emotional volatility, and decision fatigue, assuming something is fundamentally broken. But what if nothing is wrong with you? What if your faculties are simply responding to impossible demands?I'll walk you through:✅ The Catholic map of your interior life—intellect, will, memory,

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Episode #77: Why Therapy Might Not Be Working for You

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/11/25

In this solo episode, I share a profound realization that's been brewing in my practice for years—one that finally crystallized after listening to two Norbertine priests discuss the spiritual roots of psychotherapy. As a registered psychotherapist, I've helped countless clients function better, organize their thoughts, and reduce their symptoms. But something always felt hollow, both in my work and in the people I serve.I'll walk you through:✅ Why therapy can clean the house of your mind

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Episode #76: Sr. Orianne Pietra René on Finding God...

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2025/11/18

In this episode, I sit down with Sr Orianne Pietra René, a Winnipeg-born religious sister with the Daughters of Saint Paul who's bridging ancient faith and modern technology in the most unexpected ways. From her conversion to Catholicism at age 12 to a chance confession that changed everything, Sister Orianne's journey into religious life—and social media ministry—is anything but conventional.I'll walk you through:✅ How a random priest at a youth conference asked one question that

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Episode #75: Fr. Thomas Morrow on Overcoming Anger in...

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2025/11/11

In this episode, I sit down with Fr. Thomas Morrow, a Catholic priest, theologian, and author whose expertise in marriage and family has helped countless couples build stronger, more resilient relationships. With a Doctorate in Sacred Theology from the Pope John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family and decades of pastoral experience, Fr. Morrow brings both scholarly wisdom and practical insight to the challenges modern couples face.From his bestselling work on overcoming sinful anger

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Episode #74: Michael P. on Finding Freedom and...

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2025/11/04

In this deeply informative episode, I sit down with Michael Podhajsky, a canon lawyer who brings compassion and clarity to one of the most misunderstood processes in the Catholic Church—annulments. As someone who's been married for nearly 28 years and has walked alongside friends and family through divorce, I realized how little I actually understood about this process, which is why I sought out Michael on LinkedIn.What struck me most about Michael isn't just his expertise in canon

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Episode #73: Trust as Faith in Motion—Learning to Let...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/10/28

In this vulnerable solo episode, I'm getting real about what it means to truly trust when life feels fragile and you're hanging on by a thread. We've all heard the beautiful spiritual advice to "trust God's plan," but what does that actually look like when you're anxiously checking your phone for that email, dreading an upcoming confrontation, or second-guessing a major decision you've made?I'm opening up about my own journey with trust—including the news I'm

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Episode #72: Anitial'a Ware and Her Road From...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/10/21

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Anitial'A Ware, whose story isn't theory—it's lived experience. As a former Division 2 All-American athlete, collegiate coach, and master's-educated science teacher who once identified as a lesbian for a decade, Anitial'A's journey from darkness to divine purpose is nothing short of miraculous.What struck me as a therapist wasn't just her courage, but her absolute clarity. She's not speaking from a place of

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Episode #71: Relationship Wisdom on the PLANTSTRONG...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/10/14

In this unique episode, I'm switching chairs—I'm the guest! Rip Esselstyn invited me onto his PLANTSTRONG Podcast to discuss marriage, relationships, and how couples navigate health changes together. If you've been following my show, you know I don't subscribe to just one way of doing things, whether it's diet or relationships. So when Rip reached out, I was thrilled to share my perspective with his plant-strong community.This conversation was particularly meaningful because we

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Episode #70: Katy Faust, Carrie Gress & Ester...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/10/07

In this powerhouse roundtable, three previous guests return to tackle the confusion eroding modern marriages and families. Children's rights advocate Katy Faust, philosopher Carrie Gress, and Catholic educator Ester Munt-Brooks bring decades of combined wisdom on what happens when we abandon the complementary nature of masculine and feminine roles—and why getting this right is essential for thriving relationships.From my therapy room, I'm witnessing a pattern: women burnt out from trying to

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Episode #69: Course Sneak Peek - The 'I vs We' Problem

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/09/30

In this solo episode, I'm sharing something close to my heart - a core teaching from my new Conjugal Love course that challenges everything our culture tells us about marriage and relationships. If you think marriage is supposed to be all roses and rainbows, I have news for you: you're setting yourself up for failure.I dive deep into the dangerous myth of individualism in marriage and why the moment you said "I do," it actually transformed into "we do." Yet most of us slip

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Episode #68: Best Snippets of My Marriage Course - A...

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/09/23

In this special solo episode, I'm sharing the most transformative moments from my new 12-module course on conjugal love. After 25 years as a therapist and coach, I've discovered that most of us have been viewing marriage completely wrong - and once you see it as God intended, everything changes.I'll walk you through:✅ Why trust is the holy cornerstone of marriage, not performance or perfection✅ How to give from your strengths instead of burning out trying to be both sexes✅ The

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Episode #67: Marriage as Sacred Mystery

The Luella Jonk Show ·

2025/09/16

In this special solo episode, I'm sharing the introduction to my new course on conjugal love - because I believe it could completely transform how you see your relationship. After 25 years as a therapist and coach, I've realized most of us enter marriage with no clue what it actually is, and it's so much more profound than we imagine.This course introduction covers:✅ Why my priest insisted I charge for this course (spoiler: free doesn't create commitment)✅ How discovering what the

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