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(CS)²AI Podcast Show: Control System Cyber Security

Control System Cyber Security Association International, or (CS)²AI, is the premier global non-profit workforce development organization supporting professionals of all levels charged with securing control systems. With over 34,000 members worldwide, we provide the platform for members to help members, foster meaningful peer-to-peer exchange, continue professional education, and directly support OT and ICS cyber security professional development in every way. Our founder, Derek Harp, interviews

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135: The Cassandra Panel: OT Threat Intelligence from...

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2026/10/06

The Cassandra Panel: OT Threat Intelligence from April to NowBryan Singer revisits an April threat briefing to ask what changed in six months, and the answer is a lot. Georgia Tech's Saman Zonouz shares research on thousands of internet-exposed PLCs, web-enabled controllers, shared firmware code across vendors, and exposed solar inverters. Daryl Haegley explains why threat intel has to start with knowing what's inside the fence, and Brad Willet brings the asset owner's view: stray contractor

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134: Engineers Belong at the Table: Cyber-Informed...

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2026/09/29

Three veterans of critical infrastructure security trace how the field went from arguing that infrastructure was even a target to treating digital risk as an engineering hazard. Ginger Wright, Sarah Freeman, and Marc Sachs define cyber-informed engineering in plain terms, share real examples of consequences engineered out of a system, explain why adversaries already read your engineering documentation, and make the case that engineers don't need to become hackers to belong in this conversation. They

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Episode 133: Engineering Expertise: Core Skills for...

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2026/08/18

Solving the OT Talent Puzzle: A Career Roadmap from Three Industry VeteransDerek Harp sits down with Marcus Sachs (Center for Internet Security), Patrick Miller (Ampyx Cyber), and Christian Harter (UPS) for a candid conversation about breaking into — and building a career in — ICS/OT cybersecurity. The panel tackles the IT/OT divide, why "dropping your ego" matters more than any certification, how AI is reshaping the skills employers want, and why old-school, face-to-face networking still beats the

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132: Solving Problems at Scale: Kenny Mesker on OT...

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2026/06/02

Kenny Mesker, OT Cybersecurity Strategist and Distinguished Engineer at Chevron, joins Derek Harp to share his remarkable journey from growing up on a farm in West Texas to becoming one of the industry's leading voices in operational technology (OT) cybersecurity.With more than 30 years of experience spanning electric utilities, SCADA systems, industrial control systems, and cybersecurity, Kenny reflects on the evolution of OT security from the days of air-gapped networks to today's interconnected

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131: OT Monitoring & SOC and Incident Response —...

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2026/02/04

In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp is joined by Jonathan Pollet, Marc Visser, and Bryan Singer for a deep-dive Q&A discussion following CS2AI’s January 21st community event on OT Monitoring & SOC and Incident Response. Drawing on decades of hands-on experience across industrial environments worldwide, the panel expands on questions that couldn’t be fully addressed during the live sessions.The conversation explores why OT monitoring and SOC capabilities must come before

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130: S4’s “Connect” Theme Explained — Dale Peterson...

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2026/01/14

In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp is joined once again by Dale Peterson, Founder of the S4 Conference and one of the longest-standing voices in OT cybersecurity. As Dale marks 25 years in the industry, the conversation takes a forward-looking turn toward what he believes is the next major inflection point for industrial security: connectivity driven by AI, data, and business systems.Dale explains why the 2026 S4 Conference theme, Connect, is not just about networking people,

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129: Why OT Cybersecurity Isn't a One-Tool Problem:...

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2025/03/27

In this insightful episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Jay Gignac, Vice President of Sales at FoxGuard Solutions, (CS)²AI Fellow and a passionate OT cybersecurity evangelist. The conversation centers around some of the most pressing challenges in the control systems industry—asset visibility, patch management, and community collaboration. Jay, who will be speaking at the upcoming Level Zero OT Cybersecurity Conference, offers expert-level advice for professionals navigating the

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128: From the Pentagon to Public Safety: Lucian...

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2025/02/18

Lucian Niemeyer, Chief Executive Officer of Building Cyber Security and former Assistant Secretary of Defense, joins Derek Harp to discuss the growing cyber risks to operational technology (OT) systems and the urgent need for proactive frameworks to protect public safety. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this episode delves into the vulnerabilities in smart buildings, connected infrastructure, and critical systems that could have life-threatening consequences if exploited.Lucian shares how his

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127: Unlocking the Power of Asset Inventory in OT...

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2025/02/11

Roya Gordon, previously the Executive Industry Consultant - Operational Technology (OT) Cybersecurity at Hexagon Asset Lifecycle Intelligence and currently, is the Deputy CISO at ENGIE North America Inc., joins Derek Harp live from Hack the Capitol 7.0 to explore the evolving landscape of asset inventory in operational technology (OT). Roya breaks down the differences between asset visibility, inventory, and management, sharing her firsthand experiences from both passive and configuration-based

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126: Shifting Left: Why Secure Software Starts at the...

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2025/02/04

In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Mehdi Tarrit Mirakhorli, Associate Professor at the University of Hawaii and a Cybersecurity Expert, to discuss Secure by Design—a fundamental shift in how we develop and deploy software in industrial control systems (ICS) and operational technology (OT). With over 15 years of R&D experience for DARPA, the Air Force, and DHS, Mehdi shares why modern software is inherently vulnerable and how we can learn from aviation, medical, and

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125: Decoding SBOMs: Kyle McMillian on Cybersecurity...

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2025/01/28

Derek Harp welcomes Kyle McMillian, Product Security Officer at Siemens, to discuss the evolving landscape of software bill of materials (SBOMs) and their role in modern cybersecurity. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this conversation unpacks the challenges and opportunities posed by SBOMs in an industry grappling with legacy systems and modern threats.Kyle dives into the origins of SBOMs, their role in addressing vulnerabilities like Log4J, and their potential to transform procurement, risk

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124: Capture the Flag: Transforming Cybersecurity...

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2025/01/21

Derek Harp sits down with Kenneth Warren, Staff OT and Offensive Security Engineer at GRIMM Cyber, to discuss how gamification and Capture the Flag (CTF) competitions are revolutionizing cybersecurity training. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this conversation explores how CTFs and cyber ranges create safe, hands-on environments for learning offensive and defensive cybersecurity skills.Kenneth explains how CTFs offer opportunities to tackle real-world scenarios, from navigating complex

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123: From Classroom to Crisis: Immersive Training for...

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2025/01/14

Derek Harp hosts Jeff Hahn, Project Manager at Idaho National Laboratory (INL), to discuss innovative approaches to training in the ICS and OT cybersecurity space. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, Jeff shares insights into how INL’s escape rooms provide hands-on, immersive learning experiences for professionals and students alike.The escape rooms integrate learning objectives from INL’s renowned 301 Red Team/Blue Team training, transforming them into engaging, gamified challenges. These

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122: Securing the Future: Rob Shaughnessy on...

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2025/01/07

Derek Harp welcomes Rob Shaughnessy, President & CEO, Director of Psymetis, Inc., to discuss critical issues in the world of ICS and OT security, recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0. Rob dives into the vulnerabilities surrounding the development of innovative technologies, supply chain risks, and the evolving threat landscape posed by nation-state actors.The conversation highlights the growing need for transparency in supply chains, the legal gaps in cybersecurity requirements for technology

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121: From Farm to Fork: Kristin Demoranville on Food...

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2024/12/31

The intersection of cybersecurity and the food industry takes center stage as Kristin Demoranville, founder and CEO of Anson Sage and host of Bytes and Bites, joins Derek Harp at Hack the Capitol 7.0. This compelling conversation reveals how digital systems impact every aspect of the food supply chain, from farming and production to transportation and storage.Kristin highlights key vulnerabilities, including risks in automated farming equipment, robotic processing lines, and self-driving

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120: ResetCon and the Future of Cybersecurity:...

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2024/12/24

In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Jay Warren, co-founder of ResetCon, to discuss the intersection of cybersecurity research, critical infrastructure, and collaborative defense strategies. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this conversation highlights the pressing need to close gaps between academia, offensive researchers, and critical industries.Jay delves into the mission of ResetCon, an inaugural conference designed to connect academic researchers, defense

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119: Revealing the OT Threat Landscape: Remote...

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2024/12/17

Our host Derek Harp sits down with Adam Robbie, Head of OT Threat Research at Palo Alto Networks, live from Hack the Capitol 7.0. Adam shares critical insights into emerging cybersecurity challenges within Operational Technology (OT) environments, including findings from Palo Alto's extensive OT threat landscape research.Listeners will hear about the top attack vectors impacting critical infrastructure: remote access vulnerabilities, supply chain risks, and lateral movement across networks. Adam

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118: Preparing for Cyber Threats: A Strategic...

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2024/12/10

In this episode of the CS2AI Podcast, host Derek Harp dives deep into the evolving threats to national security and critical infrastructure with Mark Montgomery, Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Recorded live at the Hack the Capitol 7.0 conference in Washington D.C., this episode sheds light on the increasing cyber vulnerabilities faced by the United States from nation-states like China and Russia, as well as criminal actors exploiting critical infrastructure. Mark shares

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117: Rapid7’s Approach to ICS and OT Security:...

(CS)²AI Podcast Show: Control System Cyber Security ·

2024/12/03

Join Derek Harp and his guests from Rapid7—Lonnie Best, William Price, and Nicholas Butcher—as they delve into the critical challenges and exciting opportunities within the Operational Technology (OT) and Industrial Control Systems (ICS) cybersecurity landscape. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this episode highlights the growing demand for OT cybersecurity, innovative approaches to managing threats, and the evolving dynamics between IT and OT professionals.In this episode, the panel discusses

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116: Cyber Safety in the Age of OT Threats: Insights...

(CS)²AI Podcast Show: Control System Cyber Security ·

2024/11/26

In this episode of the CS²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp is joined by Lucian Niemeyer, CEO of Building Cybersecurity, for an enlightening discussion on the critical importance of protecting operational technology (OT) systems. Recorded at the Hack the Capitol 7.0 conference, Lucian emphasizes the increasing threats to critical infrastructure posed by nation-state actors and other adversaries, describing the current landscape as a "Sputnik moment" for cybersecurity.From vulnerabilities in water systems

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