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The Color Between The Lines with Esther Dillard

The Color Between the Lines with Esther Dillard is a storytelling podcast that explores the histories, voices, and truths that often go unheard—but deeply shape our world.*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" tabindex="-1" dir="auto" data-turn-id="4e29b2f2-7c46-4232-803b-4c51b0aa0f0d" data-testid="conversation-turn-6" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn="assistant"> Hosted by award-winning journalist and educator Esther Dillard, the show features

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16:49

How One Vote Ended Reconstruction: Jim Clyburn on the...

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2026/02/24

Did Reconstruction fall apart or was it ended by a single vote?In this episode of The Color Between the Lines, South Carolina Congressman James Clyburn explains how three razor-thin votes reshaped American history including the impeachment of Andrew Johnson, the disputed 1876 election, and the decision that effectively ended Reconstruction. By an 87 commission vote, Reconstruction came to an end. What followed was nearly 100 years of Jim Crow. Congressman Clyburn draws powerful parallels between

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26:19

Melba Moore: Broadway, the Tony Award, Faith, and the...

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2026/02/10

Tony Awardwinning performer and Broadway trailblazer Melba Moore joins The Color Between the Lines for an intimate, wide-ranging conversation about her life, career, and the personal journey behind her memoir, This Is It: Marvelous and Getting Better.In this interview, Moore reflects on:Her defining Broadway role in Purlieand what it meant to win a Tony Award without formal theater training Growing up with strong grassroots values and how family shaped her resilience Navigating success,

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2:56

Why We Didn’t Learn About Robert Smalls in School |...

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2026/02/07

Why didnt we learn about Robert Smalls in school?Robert Smalls was an enslaved Black man who stole a Confederate ship during the Civil War, freed his family and crew, delivered the ship to Union forces, and later became a United States Congressman during Reconstruction. Yet his name is rarely taught in American classrooms. In this explainer episode, journalist and storyteller Esther Dillard examines why Robert Smalls story was left out of textbooks, how Reconstruction was later reframed as a

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2:56

Why Didn’t We Learn About Robert Smalls in School?...

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2026/02/03

Why didnt most Americans learn about Robert Smalls in school? Robert Smalls was formerly enslaved, stole a Confederate ship during the Civil War, freed his family and crew, and later became a United States Congressman during Reconstruction. And yet, his story is rarely taught in classrooms. In this explainer, journalist and storyteller Esther Dillard explores why Robert Smalls legacy was left out of history education, how Reconstruction was reframed as a failure, and how the erasure of Black

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18:21

Why Victims Don’t Leave Abusive Relationships |...

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2026/01/27

Its one of the most common and misunderstood questions people ask about domestic violence. In this episode, Im joined by Nathaniel Fields, CEO of the Urban Resource Institute, to break down what survivors are really weighing when they decide whether to stay or leave.We talk about the realities many people never consider including why survivors may stay to protect their pets, how immigration status can make leaving more dangerous than staying, and why shame and fear often keep people trapped in

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4:58

Fair Lending in the Age of AI: What’s Legal, What’s...

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2026/01/20

Fair lending laws were designed to protect people not algorithms. So what happens when artificial intelligence starts deciding who qualifies for a loan, a mortgage, or financial opportunity? In this explainer episode, journalist Esther Dillard breaks down how AI is being used in lending, what federal fair lending laws actually require, and where technology is already raising serious civil rights concerns. This episode is connected to my in-depth conversation with Alphonso David, a nationally

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Looking Back: A Year of Conversations on History,...

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2026/01/06

As a new year begins, this episode takes a moment to pause and reflect on the conversations that shaped the past one.Over the last year on The Color Between the Lines, I spoke with authors, advocates, and public voices about history, power, health, and the stories that continue to influence our communities. This episode looks back at a few of those conversationsnot as nostalgia, but as context for where we are now. Featuring moments from conversations with ALelia Bundles, LaTosha Brown, and Tia

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Do Economic Boycotts Work? History, Strategy, and the...

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2025/12/30

Do economic boycotts actually work or are they just symbolic gestures?In this companion episode of The Color Between the Lines, journalist and educator Esther Dillard examines how economic protest has shaped real change in American history from Elizabeth Jennings 1854 streetcar case to the Montgomery Bus Boycott, and into present-day movements.Drawing on historical precedent and modern examples including commentary from Jamal Bryant on the Target boycott this episode breaks down when and why

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15:54

New Threats to Fair Lending Laws: Alphonso David on...

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2025/12/23

Civil rights advocates are warning about a proposed rule from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that could significantly weaken enforcement of fair lending laws making it harder to challenge discriminatory lending practices.In this episode of The Color Between the Lines, host Esther Dillard speaks with Alphonso David, President and CEO of the Global Black Economic Forum and a longtime civil rights attorney, about why this policy change matters now.David explains how eliminating the use of

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21:22

A Holiday Wake-Up Call on Black Health & Cancer...

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2025/12/09

Actress, entrepreneur, and author Tia Mowry joins Esther Dillard for a powerful conversation about family, food, and the difficult health conversations we often avoid during the holidays.In this intimate interview, Tia opens up about: Losing her grandmother and aunt to cancer Her own abnormal mammogram scare and what it taught her Why Black families face higher cancer death rates How the American Cancer Societys new campaign, Recipes to Change the Odds, empowers families to talk about

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ERASED: The Forgotten Freedom Ride Before Rosa Parks...

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2025/12/02

In this special episode of The Color Between the Lines, Esther Dillard brings forward a hidden chapter of American civil rights history that predates Rosa Parks by more than a century.Before the Montgomery Bus Boycott before Jim Crow was challenged in the Supreme Court before the modern civil rights movement had a name there was Elizabeth Jennings. In 1854, on the streets of New York City, a young Black schoolteacher was violently forced off a segregated streetcar after refusing to give up her

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7:31

10 Ways to Spot a Fake AI Image (Before You Get Fooled!)

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2025/12/02

AI is getting better but its also getting bolder. And last week, a viral post claiming Patti LaBelle visited Chaka Khan in the hospital fooled thousands of people. It looked emotional. It looked dramatic. It looked real until I started checking the facts. VEED-subtitles_Esther's Video - In this episode of The Color Between The Lines, I break down 10 quick, journalist-approved ways to spot an AI-generated fake photo before you share it. These tips will help you recognize: melting or doubled

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19:26

Policing, Race, and Authoritarian Power with Dr....

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2025/10/21

In this powerful episode of The Color Between the Lines, journalist Esther Dillard speaks with Dr.Phillip Atiba Solomon, Professor of Psychology and Black Studies at Yale University and Co-Founder of the Center for Policing Equity.Dr. Solomon warns that the growing militarization of Americas police and cities could signal a dangerous shift toward authoritarianism. He explains how federal overreach threatens community safety, why trustnot forcecreates true public security, and what history teaches us

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